Live in Germany lp

Mike menzies · V Deep

Live in Germany lp

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

THE BOOMTOWN RATS - LIVE IN GERMANY 78 DELUXE VINYL EDITION!!

Derek The Dane · V Deep

RE: Live in Germany lp

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

http://www.letthemeatvinyl.com/catalogue.htm

I have a couple of these LPs (Stranglers and Franz Ferdinand) and they are pretty impressive. Franz is white and Stranglers is grey, maybe the Rats will be yellow!

As an aside, it's strange that prior to the Dave ticket disc, the Rats never had any coloured vinyl. The only other coloured record was the white Mondays which was way after the event.

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Got the CD so not to worried if I don't get the LP

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

I have nothing to play an lp on!!

Mark L · Loudmouth

Jules wrote:
I have nothing to play an lp on!!

I didn't til yesterday and then decided to pop into Richer Sounds, Hanley and treat myself to Teac unit that records from vinyl, cassette etc to CD and via USB to computer (not sure how to do the latter yet). Got some CD-R's and put together an 80 min compilation CD this afternoon. Very good quality. I now have Europe Looked Ugly, House on Fire single edit (with extended outro), Man at the Top, Rage, Talk Me Up (b side to World Calling), SLAY (single edit), She's So Modern (alternate version), together with other tracks, a lot on CD for the first time. The source material has to be good to begin with (and it most cases with me, it is) but SLAY was battered in its day, so you can hear some slight scratches at the beginning.

Have to say (and I have no connection whatsoever with Richer Sounds) their customer service was very good (far more knowledge than the usual chain stores) and got a 6 year guarantee for 10% of the cost of this item, which was price-matched to an Amazon offer with no quibble.

The problem is I have now unearthed a collection of vinyl and tapes I had completely forgotten about in the loft and can see endless hours, being spent digitalising a lot of it, ebbing away!

Mike menzies · V Deep

Just ordered this lp new vinyl from the rats ( I know it's a1978 concert but hey who cares)

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
The problem is I have now unearthed a collection of vinyl and tapes I had completely forgotten about in the loft and can see endless hours, being spent digitalising a lot of it, ebbing away!

oooh, this sort of device is pure evil. You may need an exorcist.

I am currently copying my CDs (again) at 256kbps now I have a 4TB disc and have just got to S in the A-Z of albums. I haven't even started on single CDs and compilations. Fortunately I don't have to do much other than stick the CD in and check the track listing which sometimes needs editing.

But actually going through LPs and tapes is in a different league cos you have to get the levels right, get all the tracks named and clean up the pops and clicks. And all in real time. I have done it with the odd recording not available anywhere else (Lazun Gemmun being one of my best), but by and large, I just buy the CD and rip it, download the tracks or listen on Spotify/Amazon Prime.

I would love to do it with all my vinyl and tapes, but life is too short.

My current philosophy is only buy what isn't on Spotify or Prime which given the latter is pre releasing so many albums for nothing means all I have had to buy this year is Adele 25 and The Who in Hyde Park. Ditto with movies and TV shows on Prime, Netflix and Now TV.

Mark L · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
Mark L wrote:
The problem is I have now unearthed a collection of vinyl and tapes I had completely forgotten about in the loft and can see endless hours, being spent digitalising a lot of it, ebbing away!
oooh, this sort of device is pure evil. You may need an exorcist.
I am currently copying my CDs (again) at 256kbps now I have a 4TB disc and have just got to S in the A-Z of albums. I haven't even started on single CDs and compilations. Fortunately I don't have to do much other than stick the CD in and check the track listing which sometimes needs editing.
But actually going through LPs and tapes is in a different league cos you have to get the levels right, get all the tracks named and clean up the pops and clicks. And all in real time. I have done it with the odd recording not available anywhere else (Lazun Gemmun being one of my best), but by and large, I just buy the CD and rip it, download the tracks or listen on Spotify/Amazon Prime.
I would love to do it with all my vinyl and tapes, but life is too short.
My current philosophy is only buy what isn't on Spotify or Prime which given the latter is pre releasing so many albums for nothing means all I have had to buy this year is Adele 25 and The Who in Hyde Park. Ditto with movies and TV shows on Prime, Netflix and Now TV.

I remember you not giving this device a very warm welcome when I raised the prospect I might be getting it earlier in the year!

However I had no idea you felt so strongly that purchase of one puts me in the same league as the devil!

Funnily enough I was thinking of you when listening to an old radio 1 tape earlier. Basically I left for work in 1990 about 7.50 am and they had a competition on about 8.15 am I was keen to know the answer to and so left the tape recording. Simon Mayo, a keen Spurs fan, was bantering with (guest) producer, Ric Blaxhill, a keen Gunners fan. Very funny stuff from Blaxhill. He was a teashop owner for some reason and unveiled the Tottenham Brew - not served in cups and full of lots of sugar.....

The biggest surprise is that it captured the weather, travel and news from the day and nothing has changed! Floods, transport chaos, Norman Lamont struggling with record debt. And Diane Oxberry still does the weather on BBC1 North West everyday!

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
I remember you not giving this device a very warm welcome when I raised the prospect I might be getting it earlier in the year!
However I had no idea you felt so strongly that purchase of one puts me in the same league as the devil!

The devil is in the device. Before you know it you are up all night making copies. To get good copies takes a lot of effort getting the recording levels right, reviewing what has been recorded and that before you even consider skips that render the whole recording useless meaning you have to start again.

It's easier to just listen to them.

Mark L · Loudmouth

So far, it's not been as onerous as all that. You have to hang around a bit, but it's a joy discovering tracks and stuff I've not heard for ages. There's one switch for the recording level and it's a bit trial and error but I'm getting the hang of it.

Came across a Geldof interview with one version of how Mondays came to be written, yesterday. Radio 2 late 90s I suspect.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
Came across a Geldof interview with one version of how Mondays came to be written, yesterday. Radio 2 late 90s I suspect.

Feel free to upload to mega for everyone's benefit

noelindublin · Loudmouth

The cover pic for the lp/dvd is pretty awful. Anyone else think that?

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
Mark L wrote:
Came across a Geldof interview with one version of how Mondays came to be written, yesterday. Radio 2 late 90s I suspect.
Feel free to upload to mega for everyone's benefit

Seen any good videos lately ArrGee? Still waiting for a review. smile

Mark L · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
Mark L wrote:
Came across a Geldof interview with one version of how Mondays came to be written, yesterday. Radio 2 late 90s I suspect.
Feel free to upload to mega for everyone's benefit

I would if I knew how. I'll Google it and see what I can do. The sentence sent something of a chill down my spine seeing as how technologically inept I am.

Computers came in in 1984 at our school just as I was leaving and only 2 Chinese students seemed interested, the rest of us thought they wouldn't catch on!

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
Seen any good videos lately ArrGee? Still waiting for a review.

Indeed I have! Need to have a second proper viewing as the last time I was interrupted by having to do a taxi run, so just fast forwarded through the second half. It's a shame the new Rats don't do a cabaret show! Difford & Tilbrook did one in Docklands last year, maybe the Rats could do likewise....

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
The cover pic for the lp/dvd is pretty awful. Anyone else think that?

Yes, it's crap. Likewise the Concert Live CDs. In fact, dare I say it, aside from Tonic for the Troops, The debut LP, #1, Rat Trap, Someone's Looking and all the Long Grass singles and albums, most of the Rats covers are garbage. I remember when I first saw Surfacing how underwhelmed I felt. Even now when I see it in charity shops, I shake my head.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
Seen any good videos lately ArrGee? Still waiting for a review.
Indeed I have! Need to have a second proper viewing as the last time I was interrupted by having to do a taxi run, so just fast forwarded through the second half. It's a shame the new Rats don't do a cabaret show! Difford & Tilbrook did one in Docklands last year, maybe the Rats could do likewise....

Sorry just spotted your email today. I think the whole Musicladen set up works in the Rats favour and it's a great live dvd. You gotta see Geldof towards the end of Looking After No 1- the clip should be cut and uploaded to Youtube just to remind people how powerful, passionate and convincing Geldof was back in the late seventies.

I actually watched it in full the first two nights after I bought it in Cork. It is that good.

-- Edited by noelindublin on Tuesday 24th of November 2015 02:55:04 PM

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

ArrGee wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
The cover pic for the lp/dvd is pretty awful. Anyone else think that?
Yes, it's crap. Likewise the Concert Live CDs. In fact, dare I say it, aside from Tonic for the Troops, The debut LP, #1, Rat Trap, Someone's Looking and all the Long Grass singles and albums, most of the Rats covers are garbage. I remember when I first saw Surfacing how underwhelmed I felt. Even now when I see it in charity shops, I shake my head.

Finally bought this for about £9 on Amazon Marketplace. Whilst the cover pictures looks garbage, it is a gatefold which reveals lots of band pictures; quite a few from other gigs and the back cover is a familar looking red toned picture of the band, Geldof bare chested with zip of his trousers undone (must be in agony during the gig in them!) which also looks like it is from another gig.

Now all I have to do is wait a week or so until I fit the shelving in my study to actually listen to it. Hopefully it sounds as good as the LTEV Black Album on vinyl.

Derek The Dane · V Deep

This really is a great vinyl album to listen to.Shame the Rats never released a live album in their hey day.A live album after the Surfacing tour would have been a hit.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Derek The Dane wrote:
This really is a great vinyl album to listen to.

I have to disagree with this. I found it hard listening, especially early on. It has glitchy feedback and hum, sounds muffled in parts with a lot of incidental noise and dare I say it there are quite a number of bum notes! I have far better bootlegs.

So Strange has a slight alternate riff which sounds better. The highlight of the album is Don't Believe What You Read, which is probably the best formed of the songs that eventually made it onto A Tonic for the Troops.

It is a shame that they don't have a proper gig from 1978, there were some recorded by BBC which would have been better.

Mike menzies · V Deep

Played this a couple of days ago still a very good love lp nice we had something this year let's hope we get something next year even if it's on cd live or compilation anything ratfish would be nice ( im still playing plenty of rats stuff on all formats )

Mark L · Loudmouth

Don't Believe What You Read is one of the best songs on Tonic but I sometimes think I hear shades of Here Comes My Baby by the Tremeloes in the melody.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
Derek The Dane wrote:
This really is a great vinyl album to listen to.
I have to disagree with this. I found it hard listening, especially early on. It has glitchy feedback and hum, sounds muffled in parts with a lot of incidental noise and dare I say it there are quite a number of bum notes! I have far better bootlegs.
So Strange has a slight alternate riff which sounds better. The highlight of the album is Don't Believe What You Read, which is probably the best formed of the songs that eventually made it onto A Tonic for the Troops.
It is a shame that they don't have a proper gig from 1978, there were some recorded by BBC which would have been better.

Was it put on vinyl just to squeeze a few extra pounds out of the (probably few) punters who would wish to buy it?

Don't have it on vinyl and didn't notice any particular problems with the dvd sound, though I wasn't paying that much attention for any sound flaws. It was/is a live tv recording from 1978 after all, not Sergeant Peppers..all the incidental/extraneous sound is just par for the course, though I hope anyone who bought the vinyl wasn't wasting their money.

I still wonder why we never see vinyl reissues of the first three Rats albums, all that 180gram stuff?

PS Welcome back - the forum without ArrGee is a bit like the Rats without Geldof. smile

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
Was it put on vinyl just to squeeze a few extra pounds out of the (probably few) punters who would wish to buy it?
Don't have it on vinyl and didn't notice any particular problems with the dvd sound, though I wasn't paying that much attention for any sound flaws. It was/is a live tv recording from 1978 after all, not Sergeant Peppers..all the incidental/extraneous sound is just par for the course, though I hope anyone who bought the vinyl wasn't wasting their money.
I still wonder why we never see vinyl reissues of the first three Rats albums, all that 180gram stuff?
PS Welcome back - the forum without ArrGee is a bit like the Rats without Geldof.

I suspect it was a bit of a cash in. I resisted for a while as you very kindly provided me with the video, but in the end I bought it.

Playing it loud on my stereo exposed the sound issues, and whilst I don't expect perfection live, it was very rough and ready.

I see no reason for any reissues for a few reasons i) they will cost a lot, ii) they will use the dodgy remasters and iii) there are plenty of them in the charity shops!

PS Thanks for that, a bit OTT, but nice of you to say.