boomtown rats at G 8 GIG

reevo · Banana Republic

boomtown rats at G 8 GIG

Derek The Dane · V Deep

WE WANT THE RATS,WE WANT THE RATS,WE WANT THE RATS,WE WANT THE RATS,WE WANT THE RATS,WE WANT THE RATS,

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Bob asked us to petition, by texting, if we wanted the Quo, so why not do a Rats petition LOL

Cindy · She's So Modern

Ahhhh....I WISH!!! that would be amazing if they did perform. I think we should start a texting petition- that's an excellent idea!

Cindy · She's So Modern

Pink Floyd are getting back together for the first time in 24 years for Live 8- i hope Bob will re-think and consider the rats playing!

iluvbobgeldof · Never In A Million Years

ok...does anyone know how to start a petition???

reevo · Banana Republic

WERE ARE THEY NOW ! WOULD BE A START! WE KNOW PETE,S STILL WITH BOB, SIMON,S WITH HIS BAND JIGGERYPIPERY,FINGERS IS IN JAPAN,BUT WHAT,S GARY ROBERTS UP TOO AND LETS GET GERRY COTT AS WELL WHILE WERE ON THE CASE !! { IF WE BUILD IT THEY WILL COME }

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

This is getting serious - Bob is only going to be playing at Edinburgh not Hyde Park, something needs to be done!

Julia · Tonight

How very strange How weird that he's not playing at the Live 8 concert - the main one (by a long shot) as I understand it.

I just assumed he'd play both.

Better get a petition going about that ... BTW, just cause I'm curious, what's the go with Status Quo playing or not - did they commit an awful offence and fall out of the organisers' favour? Or did they learn to play a fourth chord . Na, I'm sure they can still deliver "whatever you want, whatever you need" .

Steve · I Don't Like Mondays

I would love to see the Rats again. I could see Bob, Pete,Simon, Garry and Johnny doing it, but not Gerry.

Anyway, I thought Bob was playing at Hyde Park. Anyhow I presume the Edinburgh one will be televised, so I can always tape it.

iluvbobgeldof · Never In A Million Years

So maybe now that TBR are suing bob it may be a little difficult to get them to all play together...

reevo · Banana Republic

Just read that in the press today wed shame!shame! shimyshame!!

camilladk · Tonight

Steve wrote:

I would love to see the Rats again. I could see Bob, Pete,Simon, Garry and Johnny doing it, but not Gerry.

Yeah, It would be nice to see, especially when you wasn't born, when they where together.

-- Edited by camilladk at 19:55, 2005-06-24

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

We haven't done anything about this. How can we get a petition going online? We need a website to put it up? We haven't got long - a week and a day! Now the Spice Girls definitely aren't playing there must be an available space surely?

I tried to write a webpage from my ISP site, but I can't do anything that others can contribute to, so utterly useless

Anyone else got any bright

s?

-- Edited by Jules at 20:43, 2005-06-24

iluvbobgeldof · Never In A Million Years

so.....whats happening with the rats at live 8? does anyone know if something was organised?

Mark Boyle · House on Fire

Steve wrote:

I would love to see the Rats again. I could see Bob, Pete,Simon, Garry and Johnny doing it, but not Gerry. Anyway, I thought Bob was playing at Hyde Park. Anyhow I presume the Edinburgh one will be televised, so I can always tape it.

Just to set the record straight, all the Rats minus Geldof have met up a few times for drinks, etc over the last decade or so; the others having apologised long ago to Gerry for treating him like dirt back in 1981 during the Far East "Mondo Bongo" tour that was the cause of his departure.

Geldof & Crowe are far from being on speaking terms thesedays after his rather crass "News Of The World" interview a few years back. Basically Simon's burned his boats in that respect.

On top of that, Johnny's busy in Japan, Gerry's rushed off his feet with his Harry Potter commitments (providing trained animals for the movies, as well as elsewhere!), & Bob...well, just look at today's papers for that one! Him & business partner Pete together's about as near as it's ever going to get for us.

I'm just happy that they're all doing well in their own spheres...and of course this year we got some new Rats material c/o the CD releases. It's been a great year to be doing the Rat!

franna · V Deep

Funny...the AOL stream said that WAS the Rats! LOL

pinkbutterfly · She's So Modern

I'm sure everyone was as happy as me to see Bob perform today!!! I really hoped it would happen but kinda resigned myself to the fact it wouldn't. Then when it did I had to turn the TV up full blast and jump around the room singing along!!! it was the best performance of the whole thing

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

That really topped my day. Being there was fantastic, but to have Bob sing too... no words can discribed. He received a very warm reception from the crowd, so it definitely wasnt out of place. I hope he's getting a very very well earned rest now.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark Boyle wrote:

Just to set the record straight, all the Rats minus Geldof have met up a few times for drinks, etc over the last decade or so; the others having apologised long ago to Gerry for treating him like dirt back in 1981 during the Far East "Mondo Bongo" tour that was the cause of his departure.

Even Pete?

Pete seems a bit like the man in the middle in this whole Rats thing.

I always thought Pete/Gerry/Johnnie were pretty close (especially as two of them are cousins), and that Bob and Garry were another pair of mates, so their fall out is a bit surprising. Simon seemed most pally with Johnnie (Gung~Ho) and latterly Garry (Pump Jockeys) .

Anyway, what exactly happened in the Far East? I know there was a plot to ditch Gerry, that he missed Simon's birthday party, and he resigned before he got sacked. But there must be a lot more than that, isn't there? (musical differences! LOL)

-- Edited by ArrGee at 11:50, 2005-07-28

Tango · In the Long Grass

i WAS AT THE G8 GIG IN EDINBURGH AND HE DID RAT TRAP AND THE GREAT SONG OF INDIFFERENCE SO HE MIGHT ASWELL HAVE BEEN A RAT!

Tango · In the Long Grass

they were a young punk band.it would be wierd if they reformed now after live 8 and stuff

_johanna_ · Drag Me Down

Tango wrote:

they were a young punk band.

ha...try telling the sexpistols, ramones or the clash that the rats were a punkband...

-- Edited by _johanna_ at 15:21, 2005-08-23

Tango · In the Long Grass

hey i like the rats aswell as the clash,the jam, the sex pistols, the style council and adam ant amongst others and the rats were definitely punk.shes so modern says punk all over

_johanna_ · Drag Me Down

Tango wrote:

hey i like the rats aswell as the clash,the jam, the sex pistols, the style council and adam ant amongst others and the rats were definitely punk.shes so modern says punk all over

yeah, I'm not saying liking the rats doesn't go with liking the real punkbands, and although the rats were real great, they were absolutely not a punk band...sure they had songs that sort of lean towards punk and punkrock, but as for them being a punkband? nah..

by the way, yeah, early Adam Ant I suppose you could sort of call punk....ha, not surprised that part of his crowd turned away from him when he started doing the whole kings of the wild frontier/ prince charming thing...what a shock..from songs like Cleopatra and Ligotage to Stand and Deliver!

-- Edited by _johanna_ at 18:16, 2005-08-23

Tango · In the Long Grass

ok so maybe theyr not totally punk but they were definitely new-wave which is close enough for me

_johanna_ · Drag Me Down

Tango wrote:

ok so maybe theyr not totally punk but they were definitely new-wave which is close enough for me

yeah, not really punk....but it doesn't really matter anyway

Tango · In the Long Grass

their the rats.their individual

_johanna_ · Drag Me Down

Tango wrote:

their the rats.their individual

yepp, they're special like everyone else lol...nah, they were a good band, that's all we need to know

Tango · In the Long Grass

i wasnt trying to suggest that adam ant is punk.but he had a bit of a punky attitude

_johanna_ · Drag Me Down

wooho, wait, wait...from the beginning, and I do have to say that you two are a bit confusing, it's not too easy to get what you wanna say, but I'll reply after how I get it...

first of, as we allready established, the rats were never a punk band, but had songs that leaned towards punkrock. as for some of their songs being "very punk", well mouse, we'll agree to disagree...

I've heard some bootlegs too, and I don't know if you've heard the one from Germany -78? anyhow, I'm gonna use it for sake of the discussion.. Now, the soundquality is not good, even though I did have a guy fix it for me..the band's playing fast, aggressive, Bob's not articulating very good. The main impression is that they're just being sloppy, or high, or whatever...now, does that make it punk? I'd say no.. well, whatever, everyone decides what they think for themselves anyway.

And as for Adam Ant, he started out as a punk. Mouse, I'm not sure what Ant you've heard, the live aid bit I'm sure, but what else? well, obviously the kings of the wild frontier, prince charming, friend or foe, strip, vive le rock and the rest of his albums up to -95 aren't punk...I'm absolutely not saying that. But ca 77-79 he was a punkperformer, not like he had some punky songs, he was a punk. If you listen to very early recordings of his, meaning bootlegs I suppose, that's punk. But with that said, he wasn't close with the punksociety in London at the time, he thought they were a bit silly...meaning he thought they talked about being punk, rather than being punk...In the sound Ligotage he sang "don't tell me it's imagery, I wore mine yesterday", a obvious blow to the punks..

( ha...I know my ant )

well that's my two cents...don't worry tango, I'm not after an argument anymore than you are...it's just a discussion, right?

Tango · In the Long Grass

yeah but somehow i always end up in a fight.usually with franna.

my everlasting memory of ant will be of walking out my door, taking off my headphones as i went only to be greeted with adam screaming 'stand and deliver, your money or your life!'.i was only about 6.i was petrified

_johanna_ · Drag Me Down

ha...stand and deliver...I'll take beat my guest over that one anyday....or b-side baby for that matter!

Tango · In the Long Grass

it wasnt his best by any means but the video was cool.lots of jumping through windows and stuff.

_johanna_ · Drag Me Down

no, absolutely not his best! god no, that whole album is very very bad....for me, honestly, after kings, there are few things that's worth while.... (Dirk wears white sox if we're gonna be hard on him)

_johanna_ · Drag Me Down

Mouse wrote:

Yeah Johanna your dead right. Hmmm. I have to say that was a long and very detailed reply.

yeah....maybe it was a bit long, but I did have a lot to say

Il zip my trap as i cant comment.

lol.....of course you can comment! ha....the thing about me is that I'm very opinionated and have no real problem expressing myself..so, yeah, I comment alot..not that that should discourage you ...

wow, you do really know your stuff about him dont you.

ha...yeah, I do know my ant ....the bands and artists I like, I do tend to know alot about...also know alot of stuff that's, I guess, considered to be useless information...did you for instance know that the elephant is the only animal that can't jump? ah, or that someone who drinks coffee runs a 66 % less chance of commiting suicide? bet you didn't

-- Edited by _johanna_ at 17:17, 2005-08-29

Tango · In the Long Grass

yeah.i spend most of my life either on here or other rats related sites.i had to do loads for my 1to1 interview (with bob) thing for coursework anyway so i found loads of rats fan sites and news articles, aswell as some very fun games to play which invlove egging bush and dragging blair round by his nose.very fun

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

_johanna_ wrote:

Tango wrote: they were a young punk band. ha...try telling the sexpistols, ramones or the clash that the rats were a punkband... -- Edited by _johanna_ at 15:21, 2005-08-23

The Ramones and the Rats (as support) toured together back in 1977. And were of a similar opinion of the fledgling UK scene.

Joe Strummer is quoted as saying the Rats were "The Bay City Rollers of punk!"; and the Rats were also seen as the Irish Pistols.

Punk Rock was a bit like Britpop, with bands denying their part in it all after the fact. Some people see the Boomtown Rats, Stranglers, Blondie, The Jam, Adam & The Ants and Elvis Costello as punks. Some don't.

When I first saw and heard the Rats, I saw them as a punk band, rather than a new wave band. The three of the first four singles certainly played to that. Only when you delve into the LPs is it clear the Rats weren't as they appeared.

Some interesting links....

http://www.punk77.co.uk/groups/boomtownrats.htm

http://www.gimarc.com/PD-chron.html

http://www.punk77.co.uk/linkpage/punkbands.htm

franna · V Deep

"Punk", "new wave", Britpop." Words created by someone in the marketing department to sell their new product (band).

I couldn't care less what genre a band gets lumped into (and I suspect this is related to why bands will deny their connection to a marketing hook, although it can be argued that many of them intentionally adopt that sound to sell more units, at least at the beginning of their career).

I'm only interested in whether the music affects me on an emotional level; and in the context of this discussion, whether that music still affects me 20+ years later.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

franna wrote:

"Punk", "new wave", Britpop." Words created by someone in the marketing department to sell their new product (band).

Normally it's the likes of NME who create these monickers over here. About 2/3 years ago they tried to label the current batch of artists as the "New Rock Revolution"

Only thing is no one swallowed it! Well, except The Edge

http://www.nme.com/news/103792.htm

http://www.nme.com/news/103540.htm

Even with Glam Rock, I don't remember it being refered to that way until long after the fact. Even in the NME/MM retrospective recently published of umpteen article at the time, Glam Rock is never used as an all-encompassing term.

http://www.nmeoriginals.com/archive.php?show=1090537200

Funnily enough, the current era is unnamed.

franna · V Deep

ArrGee wrote:

Well, except The Edge

Watch what you say about my idols! (Oops - I'll be burning in hell for that.)

OK, now I've looked at the links, and The Edge does not say "New Rock Revolution" anywhere. Your boys at NME chose to interpret Edge's remarks to fit their own concept. And BTW, I'm not at all sure Edge succeeded in getting the sound he claims to have been aiming for on HTDAAB. I think he's gotten there on the tour, though.

As I remember it, the term Glam Rock WAS used in the 70s.

-- Edited by franna at 17:27, 2005-09-19

Tango · In the Long Grass

Mouse wrote:

Cool. That sounds well fun! Loving how you sprend your free time! Though i do like Blair!.... I am quite intersted with politics (sad i suppose, only being 15) But i am intersted! anyway... Egging bush i can handle, but dragging blair around by his nose?!?! well, tango....honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself.... Can i have a go?!!? Lol Legend!

well here you go.theres loads mor scattered around the site, not just on this page.i posted the links to some in another thread. http://www.miniclip.com/election.htm