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HI- I wonder does anyone have the lyrics for Monday's b- side It's All The Rage. This track strangely did not appear on the Surfacing re- release which is another puzzle. Surely this is a song worthy of being remastered. How did "executive producer" and bass playing God Pete Briquette miss this one when he was supervising the remasters.
Yours, in cider space.
-- Edited by noelindublin on Monday 27th of September 2010 03:33:51 PM
Just scrawled down my interpretation in the hope others can fill the gaps with either educated guesses or better still the official lyrics. I've never see them listed anywhere that I can recall.
Everybody I meet wants to knock me down
A friend told me it's a new thing that's doing the rounds.
It's all the rage, you're putting me on.
A new craze that's sweeping the town
A new wave, of keeping everybody down.
Down in the street, they're using their feet.
A bloody face is worth a laugh or two. Won't they use their fists these days?
You took a risk and you opened up Pandora's Box.
Well don't ? ? now, someone's gone and stolen all the locks.
It's all the rage.....
Won't they use their feet these days?
Don't talk to me of teenage love and ? and ?
I don't believe in all this ? ? all the same
You're searching round for scapegoats everywhere you go, look in the mirror and you'll know just who's to blame
-- Edited by suss on Monday 27th of September 2010 08:20:29 PM
Just scrawled down my interpretation in the hope others can fill the gaps with either educated guesses or better still the official lyrics. I've never see them listed anywhere that I can recall.
Everybody I meet wants to knock me down
A friend told me it's a new thing that's doing the rounds.
It's all the rage, you're putting me on.
A new craze that's sweeping the town
A new wave, of keeping everybody down.
Down in the street, they're using their feet.
A bloody face is worth a laugh or two. Won't they use their fists these days?
You took a risk and you opened up Pandora's Box.
Well don't ? ? now, someone's gone and stolen all the locks.
It's all the rage.....
Won't they use their feet these days?
Don't talk to me of teenage love and ? and ?
I don't believe in all this ? ? all the same
You're searching round for scapegoats everywhere you go, look in the mirror and you'll know just who's to blame
-- Edited by suss on Monday 27th of September 2010 08:20:29 PM
Hi- you've done a pretty good job there and this song is just so hard to make out fully. I know the song is about the trend for fighting at gigs in the late seventies or early eighties- certain bands whom I shall not mention attracted a certain kind of following,rather like football teams who thought violence was part of the whole scene. I think Geldof had his nose punched a few times by some NF types.
We'll just have to speculate about the missing bits unless someone knows more and can fill in the gaps.
Time was when Saturday night was 'time to see what's going down'. Nowadays I find myself indoors repeating our mystery line on Youtube clip of IATR about 100 times through headphones as well as downloading on iTunes and using the 'monitor' to drop instruments and up the vocals channel .
Bit like doing a jigsaw and I've still got missing bits but my latest interpretation is 'don't talk to me of teenage lov ? ? ? ?. I don't believe it. All excuses are obscene.' etc etc.
This seems to me to fit song theme and the line after about looking in mirror and knowing who's to blame. I'm now trying to convince myself the first bit is about teenage loving ? to fight, or something along those lines, in keeping with kicking people and it all being 'fun' and all that.
I need help...in more ways than one!
-- Edited by suss on Saturday 1st of September 2012 11:06:35 PM
Jules, maybe you can do me a favour and just ask Bob???
I always though the line with 'excuses' was 'all excuses are the same', but I am stumped about the line just prior to that. I think there is some obscure Geldof b side which uses a line similar to 'all excuses are the same', but I just cannot think of which song it is. Most songwriters tend to 'recycle' their lyrics, intentionally or not.
Personally I think the words 'insane' and 'obscene' don't fit this line, but in keeping with the sentiment and meaning of the song they are as good a guess as any. Don't talk to me of teenage love and b??? and fire?
Suss - some much better suggestions than mine and I think you're close as you'll ever be (!) unless Jules can elicit the lines for definite from the author himself. It's sad but I have have done exactly the same with my system re prominent vocals setting etc but still to no avail.
Noel - are you thinking of 'An icicle in the sun' and the line 'and all the old excuses'?
Suss - some much better suggestions than mine and I think you're close as you'll ever be (!) unless Jules can elicit the lines for definite from the author himself. It's sad but I have have done exactly the same with my system re prominent vocals setting etc but still to no avail.
Noel - are you thinking of 'An icicle in the sun' and the line 'and all the old excuses'?
Rather than being an obscure Geldof b side the line I couldn't quite pin down was "all rumours are the same" from Joey's On The Street Again. I once read a really interesting book about forensic linguistics, which is used in criminal trials to try to prove if someone actually wrote a disputed document. One of the proofs is that a writer will use perhaps unusual phrases more than once, so for Bob all excuses and all rumours are the same. Not conclusive but the likelyhood is that the line is "all excuses are the same" in that Geldof uses a more or less exact same line in a song written in the same year.
Forensic linguistics is most famously used to try to establish if all the "Shakespeare" plays were written by the same person.
From Bob: Everybody I meet wants to knock me down A friend told me it's the new thing that's doing the rounds It's all the rage You're putting me on A new phase Is sweeping the town A new way Of keeping everybody down
They use their fists these days
You took the risk and you opened up Pandoras Box Looked what jumped out Now someone's gone and stolen all the locks Its all the rage etc.,
They use their feet these days
Don't talk to me of teenage love and burning fire I don't believe it all excuses are the same You're searching round for scapegoats everywhere you go Look in the mirror and you'll know just who to blame Oi Oi
It's about the Summer of '77 and all the violence that erupted out of the Punk/Skinhead/Oy scene fuelled by the middle class music press journalists who thought it was "genuine and real" confusing violence with passion and egging it on. Then it got out of control and swiftly changed their tunes. So the Pandora Box reference is the press and not being able to put what they'd unleashed back in the box. Similarly "the mirror" line is their own self blame. The "teenage love and burning fire" is the confusion of passion with violence. The beginning is obviously me being whacked in the Music Machine by the guy from that "Oi" band and hence the end shouts.
I was pretty sure about the burning fire lyrics, and Noel was close too - although I'd felt there was some Catholic 'hellfire' thing going on - but because I couldn't discern fully the proper intention, it left me open to some self-doubt, allowing Suss to sway me more with his (totally plausible) 'rare to find' theory!
That's put to bed a 32 year old mystery, so thanks again to Jules for a 'straight from the horse's mouth' exercise.
Thanks for following up and putting us out of collective misery. Pleased the 'excuses' bit was vindicated after hours on headphones , and was always iffy about 'rare to find', although not really sure what burning fire has to do with context . Good aural spot by Mark though.
As ever in these situations, you play the song again, slot the words and think, how on earth was that not obvious in first place?
Any chance Bob will oblige with exact (never to my knowledge printed) words straight after 'Billy! Take a walk with me'??
Thanks Jules for finally solving the mystery of these lyrics, and thanks to Bob for supplying them. I wonder does he have an old notebook or copybook with all his lyrics? The lines after Pandora's Box 'look what jumped out' now seem fairly obvious but I don't think any of us actually got them.
Perhaps you could persuade Bob to do a q and a about the Rats sometime? I know he's busy but we could submit questions in advance and maybe he might answer them in his own good time. Just a suggestion.
It might be pushing it a bit Suss, maybe if we could have a q and a session it could be included .
He need not worry. We are all fans of the Rats and some of us even like Bobs' solo records and we would ask intelligent instead of the usual predictable questions.
I was playing Its All The Rage(and many more Rats b/sides) whilst painting today.Great song,brought back loads of memorys of me jumping around my old bedroom doing bad Bob Geldof impressions.
Any chance Bob will oblige with exact (never to my knowledge printed) words straight after 'Billy! Take a walk with me'??
I've always gone with ' Down through all this misery, sweethearts swing free' but a mate reckoned back in '78 it was 'Don't you want this misery? Swing high and swing free'