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Two of my current fave songs are Forever Young by Bob Dyland but also sung very well by Chrissie Hynde in the Pretenders.

and If I could change the World sung by Eric Clapton.

also love come up and see me by ****ney rebel.

dunno but think that current music sucks pretty much, in fact it makes me feel a bit ill.

your thoughts?

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JoanOfArc wrote:
dunno but think that current music sucks pretty much, in fact it makes me feel a bit ill.

your thoughts?


Always good stuff out there, just sometimes needs a little looking for.  Right now I have been mainly listening to Arcade Fire (only new LP I have bought for a while), mixed with a bit of Julian Cope (Thanks to our local Oxfam having Interpreter for three quid) & Happy Mondays (Thanks to the jungle show).    The Drums and The XX are pretty good new bands which I quite enjoy listening to, and though they have been around a while I always reckon the Arctic Monkeys and Franz Ferdinand are worth a listen.  I have also been delving back into the past with The Velvet Underground and The Kinks.

 



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yeh i been delving back to the past just recently too Arrgee.

for example currently on my mp3 player are best of boomtown rats, about 4 bob geldof albums, Blondie, Brass in pocket by Pretenders and Hounds Of Love byKate Bush.

also my mate added Peter Grabiel for me thinking i woul dlike that but notthat interested in listening at moment.

i dunno why the uck am i listening to these bands? LOL

i will say that the bob geldof albumshelp me tothink about a better world and a better way forward than current political system. not that i believe in total revolution straightaway and don't really believe in taking money off the rich as much as i do in WINNING themoney of of them by making PROFIT. That ISthe GOVERNMENT make a PROFIT.

Came to me in a eureka moment one day some years ago now.

If thegovernment were to own and run business ethically and make amazing profits they would set the standards and be good role model for other companies.

The consumer would be empowered as a consumer in that they could spend their money with government owned business which would generate profits and then reap the rewards from in services, lower taxes,and a tonneof other stuff.

I've eventhought about third world countries andhow if we were to change business ethics that we could support them to help themselvesand become independent of aid.

Personally reckon ingenius idea, even ifi say so myself.

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just to add am listening to Dizzy Rascal CD atm.

****ing great stuff!

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other music - apart from The Boomtown Rats I like XTC, Echo and The Bunnymen, Magazine, Captain Beefheart, The Saints, Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machiene, The Band Of Holy Joy, Nirvana, Goldfrapp, Blur, Super Furry Animals, Pulp.Scott Walker and Radiohead.

There are and were loads of really good indie bands too numerous to mention. A lot of the indie bands have one or two hit albums and then disappear but they still leave a mark- bands  like Geneva , My Life Story  and David Devant and his Spirit Wife.

Good contemporary acts include Gorillaz, Joanna Newsome, Hard Fi, Kasier Chiefs, Golden Silvers.

If people bother they can find lots of current good music- Pitchfork website is good for checking on whats cool and interesting. Anyone generally into alternative culture or music tends to know where to look as it is a bit of a lifetime habit.

PS i have no real interest in a Utopian society. I like politics as a spectator sport but don't get involved.


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If I thought i would come across some earth shatteringly good music on pitchfork then i would no doubt look

I find indie really boring, although i understand the origins of this word meant that indie was any band signed up to an independent label. but now it is a sound.

now it seem to stand for indiescribably naff.



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Sorry Neil I'm being a right old bah humbug arent i?

I should prolly quit moaning and being lazy and look up some decent music eh? LOL

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NOEL I mean!!!

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Joan- sometimes its good to buy Mojo or one of the rock music mags and read the reviews. You counld listen to BBC 6 Music which plays good non commercial stuff.

IF youre looking for female acts there are some good ones- Goldfrapp, PJ Harvey, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Judee Sill.

You should check out Noosha Foxon Youtube- she was a big infliunce on Goldfrapp and is one of musics great mysteries having almost disappeared from the music scene. She had a few hits in the seventies and is very interesting.

Judee Sill is someone you should check out too. She unfortunately killed herself sometime in the mid seventies but you can get a outline of her career on Wikipedia She had a unique talent and a really good song of hers is called  The Kiss- its on Youtube as an introduction to her music.

Theres also the band called Joan As Police Woman. Im just a music fan and can only recommend these artists as people I've liked- hopefully others can appreciate them too. Music is one thing I never tire of but you have to look for good music- generally the internet helps as you find stuff you've never heard of!



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Other than the Rats my fave albums are:

1, Faster Pussycat (self-titled first album)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster_Pussycat_%28album%29

2. The Cramps - Off The Bone

3. Living Colour - Vivid

4. The Cult - best of

5. Pretty Boy Floyd - Leather Boyz with Electric Toyz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather_Boyz_With_Electric_Toyz

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Apart from Bob and The Rats some of my favouraite albums are below:

Dogs Die In Hot Cars - Please Describe Yourself
Fossil Fuel - The XTC singles 1977-1992
Laibach - Opus Die & Let It Be
Johnny Flynn - A Larum
Paul Weller - 22 Dreams
The Pogues - If I Should Fall From Grace With God
Scritti Politti - Songs To Remember

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BTR -You seem to be into the more heavy rock side of things or metal. I suppose we all have different influences and tastes.

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I don't actually listen to much music these days and if I do it tends to be classical music (Classic FM).

The albums I listed above are the one that give me a buzz and make me feel like going out and having a good time.


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Other music what's that?biggrin

No really, I like loads of stuff:

U2, the Beatles, Iron Maiden, White Lies, Queen, Savage Garden, the Corrs, Thin Lizzy, T'Pau, Depeche Mode, Motorhead, the Police, T-Rex, Slade, the Zutons, Franz Ferninand, Kaiser Chiefs, David Bowie, REM, Green Day, the Who, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, Guns n Roses, Led Zep, Arctic Monkeys, Roxy Music, the Undertones, The Buzz****s, The Damned, The Sex Pistols, The Rolling Stones, Glen Miller, The Beautiful South, Elton John, Bon Jovi, The Pogues, Saxon, Rainbow, Whitesnake, Kate Bush.  To name but a few.  I also like traditional jazz and classical, big band sounds.  But I hate techno, rap, garage etc and boy/girl bands, whiney poppy stuffwink

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Two of my favourite albums are Violator by Depeche Mode, and Live After Death by Iron Maiden.


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I tend to have the radio on quite often and often dont have a clue what i'm listening to LOL

my bf makes interesting music on his keyboard, i sometimes listen to that now and again, if you're interested hes thebison on my space, i will find link and post here if i'm allowed to, theres another bison but that has a space between 'the' and 'bison'.

not sure what you would call this music or what genre of music you would call it, hard to pigeon hole. different is what i would call it lol.

anyway he's moving to france, but thats another story that you might not be interested in lol, oh and btw i've got a wobbly front tooth, please god no i don't want to lose it....thats something else you might not be interested in.....

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Jules wrote:

Other music what's that?biggrin

No really, I like loads of stuff:

U2, the Beatles, Iron Maiden, White Lies, Queen, Savage Garden, the Corrs, Thin Lizzy, T'Pau, Depeche Mode, Motorhead, the Police, T-Rex, Slade, the Zutons, Franz Ferninand, Kaiser Chiefs, David Bowie, REM, Green Day, the Who, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, Guns n Roses, Led Zep, Arctic Monkeys, Roxy Music, the Undertones, The Buzz****s, The Damned, The Sex Pistols, The Rolling Stones, Glen Miller, The Beautiful South, Elton John, Bon Jovi, The Pogues, Saxon, Rainbow, Whitesnake, Kate Bush.  To name but a few.  I also like traditional jazz and classical, big band sounds.  But I hate techno, rap, garage etc and boy/girl bands, whiney poppy stuffwink



You're covering all your bases there Jules- Glenn Miller and Whitesnake?  I forgot to say I like lots of obscure sixties psychedelic music  and English folk music too. Like you I dislike rap. I can put up with techno and dance as at least its not as irritating as rap. I heard yesterdays PM'S   question time on Radio 5 Live and found out David Cameron was a Smiths fan. Think he likes the Jam as well or at least the song Eton rifles.

Aren't the Corrs a bit soft?

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BTR wrote:

I don't actually listen to much music these days and if I do it tends to be classical music (Classic FM).

The albums I listed above are the one that give me a buzz and make me feel like going out and having a good time.



How can you listen to a station that constantly has ads every few minutes ie Classic FM? At least BBC Radio 3 is ad free for those into classical music.

Its just that I hate advertising interfering with entertainment on tv or radio.

 



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Laibach wrote:

Apart from Bob and The Rats some of my favouraite albums are below:

Dogs Die In Hot Cars - Please Describe Yourself
Fossil Fuel - The XTC singles 1977-1992
Laibach - Opus Die & Let It Be
Johnny Flynn - A Larum
Paul Weller - 22 Dreams
The Pogues - If I Should Fall From Grace With God
Scritti Politti - Songs To Remember


Laibach- I'll have to check out this Johnny Flynn guy- looks very interesting. I generally like English folk music and this band seem a bit like either Patrick Wolf or maybe the old eighties English urban folk outfit The Band Of Holy Joy.

Flynn certainly looks like an interesting guy and A larum seems to be getting good reviews but I hadn't heard of it  until I searched info on JF. I'm always happy to be  pointed in the right direction.

unfortunately haven't gotten round to hear Dogs Die In Hot Cars but if the sound like XTC than that's a good starting point.

 



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At the moment im listening to boomtown rats,pulp,oasis,the smiths and madness

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My life revolves around my love for music and as much as I love Bob it is more for the person he is. I do love his music but my favourite artist is Leonard Cohen and I was extremely lucky to attend his tour finale in Las Vegas last weekend and then actually meet him. Having met Bob previously I felt lucky when I met Bob but now I've met both my heroes.

Other music I love includes Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen, U2, Bryan Adams, John Denver, Shania Twain, John Lennon, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Fleetwood Mac, The Beatles, Whitesnake, Greenday, Elton John, Paul McCartney, Simon and Garfunkel, this list could go on forever!



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If you like Green Day then buy a copy of the album All the Best by Stiff Little Fingers as Greenday rip-off SLF songs.

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Green Day too me are irritating- all that cheap sloganeering.

How about buying The Only Ones hits collection This Immortal Story. If you like brilliant lyrics great tunes and real seventies new wave music then The Only Ones are a million miles better than Green Day and their generic punk.

Always loved that SLF line " its exams that count not football teams" reminds me of being young. Its from At The Edge..


Their solution to the problems in Northern Ireland were a bit woolly- an alternative Ulster was short on specific detail- perhaps an exampleof political sloganeering that sounds good but has no detailed solution. The NME seemed to love political type music as if just strumming a few chords and shouting slogans would prove solutions or deal with real problems. As always the solution is in the detail.

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Friend gave me a CD by TOTO today. Africa is a great song......but also discovered I absolutely LOVE 'Don't Chain My Heart' has some meaning for me at the moment.......great stuff!

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Apart from the rats which ive been a fan of since 1978,my other main band is Iron maiden who ive seen live about 25 times(yes iam slightly deaf now).Also into ok go who if you hav`nt heard of are well worth checking out(loads of videos on you tube).

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Ok Go?

^^^^^^thats the name of the band?

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smileYes,ok go is the name of the band,but dont let that put you off,check them out!!!aww

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ok do the rat, i shall, particularly as the name intrigues me so much!

thanks

i will feedback my thoughts!

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I'm currently listening to a band called Broadcast and their album from 2000 The Noise Made By People. Its really good - indie sort of like Stereolab or vaguelly The Cocteau Twins but they have a really good individual style using retro keyboards.

Best album I've heard in ages and I will catch up on their other records as the seem to be the sort of band I could really get into.

Unfortunately the lead vocalist Trish Keenan died recently. They were based in Hungerford, Berks but were originally Brummies. 'Spose cant be perfect.

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Youtube is good for randomly clicking to find a good song.

I like this song:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYsss7Gm9aU




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What I do is read the reviews in places like the NME or Pitcfork and if any band gets 8 or 9 out of ten then usually its possibly to listen to loads of their stuff, often off just released albums.

I prefer to listen to music away from computers, as in the old fashined way. There is so much choice on the Internet I end up having a ten second attention span to new music and often forget about bands I thought were quite good with so much on offer .

The NME are touting a new" best band ever "almost weekly- its the same with loads of other sites. In the old days just reading about bands in the NME was good enough- now you can hear them  instantly. I suppose we live in an instant and largely disposable society.



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I've been listening to Dogs Die In Hot Cars second album project. They released a superb album called Please Describe Yourself in 2004, then they split up after recording demos for a second album, thosos demos can be downloaded for free on their web-site. If you like XTC you should like this band.

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stuart wrote:
At the moment im listening to boomtown rats,pulp,oasis,the smiths and madness

I'm always listening to the Rats, Pulp & Oasis.   Not so much Madness and The Smiths.   

The album I have been listening to recently is Autoamerican which I thought was rubbish when I first heard in back in the early eighties, but was amazed at how good it sounded now.    

It's funny how your opinion of albums changes over time. 



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... but my favourite artist is Leonard Cohen and I was extremely lucky to attend his tour finale in Las Vegas last weekend and then actually meet him.


Not my favorite, but I think Leonard Cohen is sadly undiscovered and far better than Dylan who is is often compared with.  I harbour similar feelings about The Kinks and The Beatles.   I love his work and would love to go and see him live.  I latched onto Leonard Cohen mainly through reading something Jarvis ****er said about him.  Much like my discovery of Dr. Feelgood via the Rats.



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I always get mixed up with Leonard Cohen and Leonard Skynard, which one did 'Free as a bird?' thats a great tune, love it!

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Lynard Skynard - Free Bird is a pile of US crap, whereas....

Leonard Cohen - Bird on the wire

Like a bird on the wire
Like a drunk in a midnight choir
I have tried in my way to be free

Like a worm on a hook
Like a knight from some old fashioned book
I have saved all my ribbons for thee

If I, if I have been unkind
I hope that you can just let it go by
If I, if I have been untrue
I hope you know it was never to you

Oh, like a baby, stillborn
Like a beast with his horn
I have torn everyone who reached out for me

But I swear by this song
And by all that I have done wrong
I will make it all up to thee

I saw a beggar leaning on his wooden crutch
He said to me, "You must not ask for so much"
And a pretty woman leaning in her darkened door
She cried to me, "Hey, why not ask for more?"

Oh, like a bird on the wire
Like a drunk in a midnight choir
I have tried in my way to be free



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Ok so you think Leonard Skynnard is crap, i reckon theres a wow bit of guitar playing in Free As A Bird.



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Not my favorite, but I think Leonard Cohen is sadly undiscovered and far better than Dylan who is is often compared with.  I harbour similar feelings about The Kinks and The Beatles.   I love his work and would love to go and see him live.  I latched onto Leonard Cohen mainly through reading something Jarvis ****er said about him.  Much like my discovery of Dr. Feelgood via the Rats.



Should we be lucky enough to have Leonard tour after the release of his next album I highly recommend that you try and make at least one show. Having attended many many concerts no one comes close live. He is currently in studio recording the album and it is expected to be released at the end of the year so I'm crossing my fingers for a tour in 2012!!! 3 of the songs to be included on the album were premiered on the last tour and it is safe to say Leonard is as brilliant at writing songs now as he was in the 60's!
In one sense I agree that it is sad that he is "undiscovered" as you put it but he does have a huge following and after a 3 year tour of over 260 concerts with an average of 8500 in attendance is what I'd call success!
I totally agree he is far better than Dylan. Respect to Dylan that he is also a fantastic lyricist but no offense to any Dylan fans but he is well past it! His recent concerts are a hit and miss and he averages 15 songs per show. Compare this to the 30 plus songs at a Cohen concert of which most are at least 5 minutes long. Macca also tops 30 songs in a setlist but his songs are much shorter. It is for this reason that I have never seen Dylan in concert and unless it was very very convenient for me to do so I won't as I do love some of his stuff and don't want that tainted by going to a concert where he may or may not perform or could be in bad form which is often the case!
BTW ArrGee Bird on the Wire is one of my favourite Cohen songs smile

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Should we be lucky enough to have Leonard tour after the release of his next album I highly recommend that you try and make at least one show.
I was tempted to see him at the O2 in London until I saw how much the tickets cost.  So instead I just bought all his records and treated the missus to a slap up meal at The Ivy.

Undiscovered is probably the wrong word, because as you write he does have large concerts in all sorts of places.  First he makes in Manhattan then he makes in Berlin smile

 



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musicmania wrote:
Should we be lucky enough to have Leonard tour after the release of his next album I highly recommend that you try and make at least one show.
I was tempted to see him at the O2 in London until I saw how much the tickets cost.  So instead I just bought all his records and treated the missus to a slap up meal at The Ivy.

Undiscovered is probably the wrong word, because as you write he does have large concerts in all sorts of places.  First he makes in Manhattan then he makes in Berlin smile

 



Ticket prices may be high but you get value for money. All his concerts are over 3 hours with his concert in Lissadell here lasting 3 hours 45 minutes and the final one in Las Vegas 3 hours 50 minutes. Only other artists I've seen top 3 hours are Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen. Yes undiscovered isn't the correct word but I know where you are coming from. He has never had the widespread popularity of Dylan but he has never needed it either.

 



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I knew nothing much about Syd Barrett- he had been one of those names that was always around till I decided to splash out of one of his compilation collections.

I just love sixties psychedelic music the more obscure the better. Syd Barrett was a total genious who paid the price of indulging in LSD in the late sixties. Anybody not familiar with his work should check him out-totally accessible and otherworldly at the same time.

I defy anybody not to be hooked almost immediately. Million times better than Oasis! If the Gallaghers had 1 percent of Barretts talent......

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Should probably give this some serious thought before posting but spontaneously I'd list following (very roughly chronologically, to me at least) as all time favourites still pretty frequently played:-

Beach Boys- 20 Golden Greats - first album I bought
Beatles- Red and Blue
ELO- New World Record and Out of the Blue
Blondie - Parallel Lines
Jam - All Mod Cons, Setting Sons, Sound Affects
Clash - The Clash
Madness - One Step Beyond, Absolutely, Seven
Damned - Machine Gun Etiquette
Splodgenessabounds - Splodgenessabounds
Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell
Soundtrack - Rocky Horror
Soundtrack - Shock Treatment
Soundtrack - The Wanderers
OMD - Architecture and Morality
Smiths - World Won't Listen, Hatful of Hollow, Strangeways
Pogues - Red Roses, Rum...and the Lash, If I Should Fall From Grace with God
The Men They Couldn't Hang - Night of 1000 Candles, How Green Was My Valley
I Ludicrous - It's Like Everything Else
Serious Drinking - The Revolution Starts at ClosingTime
Stone Roses - Stone Roses (rivals TFTT as my all time favourite)
Suede - Suede, Dog Man Star, Coming Up
Carter USM - 101 Damnations, 30 Something, 1992
Morrissey - Viva Hate, Your Arsenal, Vauxhall and I, You are the Quarry
Oasis - Definitely Maybe and What's the Story?
Dido - No Angel
Radiohead - OK Computer
Goldfrapp - Felt Mountain
Polyphonic Spree - The Beginning Stages of
Black Eyed Peas - Elephunk and Monkey Business

few barren years, preoccupied by kids I guess confuse

More recent include couple of Fratelli's' albums, first 2 KaiserChiefs, Arctic Monkeys, MGMT, and a shedload of R&B artists I have no choice but to listen to (and on the odd occasion grudgingly like e.g. Flo Rida, NeYo).

Have to add Queen and Bowie, at a greatest hits kind of level, and somewere around 600 other CDs, although I do favour compilations for variety and sheer value.

Also a bit partial to the old TV Themes and the like.

Living in the past quite clearly...and proud of it!



















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suss wrote:

Should probably give this some serious thought before posting but spontaneously I'd list following (very roughly chronologically, to me at least) as all time favourites still pretty frequently played:-


Beach Boys- 20 Golden Greats - first album I bought
Beatles- Red and Blue
ELO- New World Record and Out of the Blue
Blondie - Parallel Lines
Jam - All Mod Cons, Setting Sons, Sound Affects
Clash - The Clash
Madness - One Step Beyond, Absolutely, Seven
Damned - Machine Gun Etiquette
Splodgenessabounds - Splodgenessabounds
Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell
Soundtrack - Rocky Horror
Soundtrack - Shock Treatment
Soundtrack - The Wanderers
OMD - Architecture and Morality
Smiths - World Won't Listen, Hatful of Hollow, Strangeways
Pogues - Red Roses, Rum...and the Lash, If I Should Fall From Grace with God
The Men They Couldn't Hang - Night of 1000 Candles, How Green Was My Valley
I Ludicrous - It's Like Everything Else
Serious Drinking - The Revolution Starts at ClosingTime
Stone Roses - Stone Roses (rivals TFTT as my all time favourite)
Suede - Suede, Dog Man Star, Coming Up
Carter USM - 101 Damnations, 30 Something, 1992
Morrissey - Viva Hate, Your Arsenal, Vauxhall and I, You are the Quarry
Oasis - Definitely Maybe and What's the Story?
Dido - No Angel
Radiohead - OK Computer
Goldfrapp - Felt Mountain
Polyphonic Spree - The Beginning Stages of
Black Eyed Peas - Elephunk and Monkey Business

few barren years, preoccupied by kids I guess confuse

More recent include couple of Fratelli's' albums, first 2 KaiserChiefs, Arctic Monkeys, MGMT, and a shedload of R&B artists I have no choice but to listen to (and on the odd occasion grudgingly like e.g. Flo Rida, NeYo).

Have to add Queen and Bowie, at a greatest hits kind of level, and somewere around 600 other CDs, although I do favour compilations for variety and sheer value.

Also a bit partial to the old TV Themes and the like.

Living in the past quite clearly...and proud of it!



















Yeah Suss you've got pretty good taste in the main- in others words like mine!

Glad to see you like Carter USM-I really love them and think they're brilliant - even visit JiM Bobs site sometimes - Love Lean On Me I Won't Fall Over one of their best songs." Stuck in a tunnel on the Hammersmith and City line......."

Forgot to tell everybody I like Supergrass and Eels as well as all the other stuff I've mentioned in the past. I keep remembering bands I like including Belle and Sebastian especially their earlier stuff in the nineties. And Ian Brown.

 



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Noel,

Thanks for that vote of confidence. I've got pretty eclectic tastes to be honest and will give anything a chance but that list gives a flavour of preferred styles that have stood the test of time.

I was a big Carter fan - would rank one of their Brixton gigs as one of my favourite ever. Still got the long sleeve t-shirts with all the Damnation dots and 30 Something on them. Shame they don't fit now. You reach that age - 24, 25 - your muscles give up and wave a little white flag and suddenly.....

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Should probably give this some serious thought before posting but spontaneously I'd list following (very roughly chronologically, to me at least) as all time favourites still pretty frequently played:-
I never of thought of doing this until now, but here is my chronlogical list.
 
My limitations were
 
i) I didn't repeat artists, otherwise it would be a list of Beatles, Bowie & Pulp. 
ii) I must have been alive when it was released
iii) No compilations
iv) I have excluded anything from The Boomtown Rats as that's a given and I wouldn't have got Blondie in otherwise.
 
When I did the list I was surprised that
 
i) Neither Ziggy Stardust nor His 'n' Hers made it as I had to select Bowie & Pulp LPs from more barren years
ii) The Stranglers and Oasis couldn't get a spare year due to the competition.
iii) The eighties were hellish to pick, and not happy with 1986, Bon Jovi!!
 
I also went for the US versions of a couple of LPs as the track listings are better.  I also stuck my favourite track on.

Noel will think all I do is read the NME wink.gif 
 
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1964 Kinks - The Kinks  (You Really Got Me)
1965 Rubber Soul - The Beatles (Norwegian Wood)
1966 Aftermath (US) - Rolling Stones (Paint It Black)
1967 The Velvet Underground And Nico  - The Velvet Underground (Waiting for the Man)
1968 Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake - Small Faces (Lazy Sunday)
1969 Songs From A Room - Leonard Cohen (Bird on a Wire)
1970 Bridge Over Troubled Water - Simon and Garfunkel (Bridge Over Troubled Water)
1971 Electric Warrior - T. Rex (Get It On)
1972 Slayed? - Slade (Mama Weer All Crazee Now)
1973 Aladdin Sane - David Bowie (Jean Genie)
1974 Desolation Boulevard (US) - Sweet (The Ballroom Blitz)
1975 Down by The Jetty - Dr. Feelgood (She Does It Right)
1976 Ramones - Ramones (Blitzkrieg Bop)
1977 Never Mind the B*ll*cks, Here's the Sex Pistols -  The Sex Pistols (Pretty Vacant)
1978 Parallel Lines  - Blondie (Heart of Glass)
1979 Own - The Flys (16 Down)
1980 Get Happy!! - Elvis Costello (King Horse)
1981 Wilder - Teardrop Explodes (Passionate Friend)
1982 English Settlement - XTC (Senses Working Overtime)
1983 Synchronicity - The Police (Synchronicity II)
1984 Fried - Julian Cope (Reynard The Fox)
1985 Night Time - Killing Joke (Love Like Blood)
1986 Different Light - The Bangles Slippery When Wet - Bon Jovi (You Give Love a Bad Name)
1987 Appetite For Destruction - Guns 'n' Roses (Sweet Child o' Mine)
1988 The House Of Love - The House of Love (Destroy The Heart - not on LP, but same era)
1989 The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses ( I am the Ressurection)
1990 Pills 'n Thrills - Happy Mondays (Step On)
1991 Nevermind  - Nirvana (Come As You Are)
1992 Seven - James (Born of Frustration)
1993 Suede - Suede (Animal Nitrate)
1994 Parklife - Blur (Girls & Boys)
1995 The Bends - Radiohead (Just)
1996 Expecting to Fly - Bluetones (Bluetonic)
1997 In it for the Money - Supergrass (The Sun hits the Sky)
1998 This is Hardcore - Pulp (Dishes)
1999 Guerilla - Super Furry Animals (Northern Lites)
2000 JJ72 - JJ72 (Snow)
2001 Is This It - The Strokes (Last Night)
2002 Up The Bracket - The Libertines (Up The Bracket)
2003 Elephant - The White Stripes (Seven Nation Army)
2004 Hot Fuss - The Killers (All These Things That I Have Done)
2005 You Could Have It So Much Better -  Franz Ferdinand (Walk Away)
2006 Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not - Arctic Monkeys (I Bet That You Look Good On The Dancefloor)
2007 Yours Truly, Angry Mob - Kaiser Chiefs (The Angry Mob)
2008 The Age Of The Understatement -  Last Shadow Puppets (My Mistakes were made for you)
2009 The Resistance - Muse (Uprising)
2010 The Suburbs -  Arcade Fire (Ready To Start)
2011 How To Compose...  (BlowFish)  the year is young!

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Radiohead - No Computer


but obviously meant OK Computer. 

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Mods, why can't I edit posts please?
Mainly cos it costs money.  I can set it to edit with 24 hours, but for longer times for edits and all sorts of other features I have to pay.  And I ain't paying!  I of course can edit anytime I want, and have fixed it up for you smile

 



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Cheers ArrGee. Time limit explains it all as was fairly sure I'd edited my own posts previously.

Was feeling a bit like a naughty schoolboy who had the privilege revoked for misbehaving or something.

Great chronological list by the way...clearly far more with the times than I.


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Cheers ArrGee. Time limit explains it all as was fairly sure I'd edited my own posts previously.


Was feeling a bit like a naughty schoolboy who had the privilege revoked for misbehaving or something.

Great chronological list by the way...clearly far more with the times than I.

 


No problem - of course having made that list I realised I should have had FreePeace Sweet by Dodgy in 1996.  Still can't believe 1986 was such a bad year.  Typical that the worst time in music 1982-1986 coincided with my time at University.



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ArrGee,

Reviewed my offering and '86 yielded (what I should have titled) How Green Is The Valley which I'd definitely have put in the 'appeals to students' section in Our Price.

The whole Celtic rock / Pogues thing was never going to get mainstream appeal at a time when the hordes were apparently happy not only to put up with but also buy over produced power ballads and 'stadium' style bands, but I always felt bands like TMTCH were natural successors to the punk/new wave old guard who had either lost their edge, lost their way or at best lost their novelty. The fresh political references were always thought provoking (Shirt of Blue is best track I've heard about miners' strike) and lyrics were never bland, which is quite a big thing for me (hence Rats and Carter etc). Took me a couple of attempts to appreciate them though as first copy I bought had side A pressed on boths sides blankstare. I kept it with a view to selling on at huge profit. Still sitting there on my shelf 25 years on...

Not sure if you ever got chance to sound them out or simply disliked that kind of thing (fair play if so) but I'd take them above Bon Jovi every time. Totally agree that 86 was a bit of a musical desert though. It was as if the revolution of less than 10 years previously had never happened.




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Thanks for that vote of confidence. I've got pretty eclectic tastes to be honest and will give anything a chance but that list gives a flavour of preferred styles that have stood the test of time.

I was a big Carter fan - would rank one of their Brixton gigs as one of my favourite ever. Still got the long sleeve t-shirts with all the Damnation dots and 30 Something on them. Shame they don't fit now. You reach that age - 24, 25 - your muscles give up and wave a little white flag and suddenly.....



In the late eighties early nineties I was big into everything Indie as if that would  save the world. Carter USM  are one of those bands that people might see as a bit jokey but I beg to differ. jim Bob from Carter was/is one of the best lyricists ever.

The did a very good six track during the Britpop years called A World Without Dave featuring And God Created Brixton which is worth checking out.

Born On the Fifth Of November from around the same time is utterly brilliant - reminds me of when I lived in London- probably on Youtube so worth checking out.

Check Battling The Bottle also by Jim Bob [Solo track] just to show he never lost it!

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ArrGee- Most of what you like and list chronologically I am in agreement with with some exceptions. Agree that 1982-86 was not the best for creative music.

Does anybody like Magazine or Wire two of the best new wave punk type bands.The, ahem, intellectual side of punk if you wish.

I really like Echo And The Bunnymen from the eighties as well as  The Fall .

Listing things chronoligically is a bit like listing the FA Cup winners - interesting but maybe not too revealing, in the scheme of things.

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Listing things chronoligically is a bit like listing the FA Cup winners - interesting but maybe not too revealing, in the scheme of things.

I was a bit surprised at what I came out with taking that approach.  Had I just listed my obvious favorite albums they would cluster around 1973, 1979, 1990, 1995 and 2004, whereas doing this made me stop and think a bit, and made me think of albums like Night Time that I had not heard for a while.

Magazine, Wire and The Fall are all bands I have an interest in but don't really know enough of their material to give a considered opinion.  Never really liked Echo & The Bunnymen as I saw them as an inferior Teardrop Explodes.   Currently listening to The Stooges.  The Martin Peters of Punk!

 



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Not sure if you ever got chance to sound them out or simply disliked that kind of thing (fair play if so) but I'd take them above Bon Jovi every time. Totally agree that 86 was a bit of a musical desert though. It was as if the revolution of less than 10 years previously had never happened.


More the former than the latter.  Only album I liked that I could think I bought in 1986 was Bon Jovi.  I did have some other alterantives like The Queen is Dead, but the choice of Bon Jovi was a bit more honest as that's what I was listening to at the time.  To the mid-seventies it was all looking back as the first LP I actually bought was A Tonic for the Troops, but the rest I bought more or less in the year they were released.  Bon Jovi was one of my first CDs, likewise Deep in the Heart of Nowhere.

 



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OK what about Jimmy Cliff then, Try and Try, The Harder They Come, You Can GEt It If You REally Want, Many Rivers To Cross - where tf can you find reggae like that now?????

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Noel, as a fellow XTC fan have you heard an Irish band called Pugwash?. I came across them on You Tube today, the single At The Sea is pure XTC and apparently Andy Partridge chose the tracks for their new compilation album Giddy. There are also Beatles and ELO influences too, worth checking out.

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Noel, as a fellow XTC fan have you heard an Irish band called Pugwash?. I came across them on You Tube today, the single At The Sea is pure XTC and apparently Andy Partridge chose the tracks for their new compilation album Giddy. There are also Beatles and ELO influences too, worth checking out.



Haven't actually heard them although the name is familiar- but then with so much music its really hard to keep up with everything. Will check them out on Youtube.

Occasionally visit the XTC  forums but haven't joined. There seems to be so much XTC related music about, with endless reissues and all the Andy Partridge related solo projects, one would never get anything done if one were to join in the discussion!

Basically have all the XTC albums and the Dukes Of Stratosphere stuff as well and think Partridge in particular and Colin Moulding are geniuses with a totally unique sound and take on life. Hey I was only thinking about the brilliant Vanishing Girl a while ago- that's how my mind works.

AP has his own label with a stable of acts and needless to say if they're good enough for Andy Partridge they should be good enough for me. I generally love oddball sixties psychedelic records and can't get enough of them.

Have you ever heard Liverpool band Clinic on Domino? Again a band with a unique sound and worth checking out if you haven't heard them.

Not sure what my favourite XTC songs are - there are so many to choose from but off the top of my head it could be Respectable Street, No Thugs In Our House [ would sound good played in a football stadium!] or Life Begins At The Hop.

What are you're XTC faves?

UPDATE- Just checked out that Pugwash song on Youtube. Talk about similarity- even the singers voice sounds like Andy Partridge and if I hadn't been told in advance I might have mistaken it for XTC themselves!!

Obviously they've been listening to the great Swindonians. Its a bit weird if something sounds too much like something else. That song was certainly jolly and engaging though.



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Is this the pugwash you were talking about????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgqkzFnZRRo&feature=related

best music mentioned yet!

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Yes. Only discovered them through Laibach though the name was familiar.

They sound pretty good, though a bit too close to XTC. Its like if a band sounded too close to the Boomtown Rats I would be a bit confused. You don't want an exact copy but equally you are flattered that they had been listening close enough to have a very similar sound. Imitation being the most sincere form of flattery and all that.

Will have to check  out more Pugwash to give them a fair chance.

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Noel are you replying to my post when you start with a 'yes'?

If so don't think you've clicked on the link mate pmsl ;)

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2011 How To Compose...  (BlowFish)  the year is young!


2011 Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds - Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds (What a Life)

2012 Sonik Kicks - Paul Weller  (Green)

2013 Reflektor -  Arcade Fire (Reflektor)  (Meaning 2010 needs revising to Borthers - Black Keys (Everlasting Light)

2014 Royal Blood - Royal Blood (Figure It Out)

2015 FFS - FFS  (Call Girl)

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Just reading back some of the posts here. There's a discussion about Leonard Cohen. At that time it went over my head. Two years ago in Dublin, Musicmania and Geldof opened my eyes to him. He's now up there. At the top of my list. Why had I not discovered him before? Who knows? I now own the full box set, plus a couple of live albums etc.

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Possibly the most interesting back I've listened to in a few years is a band called Silver Apples. They only released a handful of albums, back in the late sixties. An album called Silver Apples and one called Contact. They made a sort of 'comeback' in the 90's when lots of the electronic/experimental type bands started singing their praises. Of course in the late 60's they were damned to obscurity as is often the case when so many lesser, predictable bands churning out  formulaic music did ok.

They have a really weird , unique sound. A mix between psychedelic rock and electronic experimentation and were  a big influence on bands like Spacemen 3 and Suicide. The songs are generally quite accessible and unpretentious yet the have a strange mystical/psychedelic quality that is all of it's own.They sound a lot more interesting than most modern rock bands of the last 20 years, all the usual NME bore bands.

They fit alongside bands that I really like that sound like a one off-Captain Beefheart, Clinic to give two examples.Worth checking out on Spotify or other 'platforms'. I Don't Care.. is a good intro to their sound but they are a band I have really taken to and the first band in a few years that I feel like shouting from the rooftops about.

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There's a discussion about Leonard Cohen. At that time it went over my head. 


Geldof had Famous Blue Raincoat on his Under The Influence album and you can hear that in some of the solo work particularly Sex Age & Death 

Ok we all know Cohen is hardly Captain Chuckles but I've never understood people saying it was wrist-slitting music. It's about beauty and love and living and more gorgeously said than anyone. "Famous Blue Raincoat" is a letter he's writing one snowy winter night. - Bob Geldof

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I have that album and of course I knew it was there, but I didn't really listen until after Geldof and Musicmania got me intrigued.

Love the fact he wanted his grandson to be called Leonard.

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They sound a lot more interesting than most modern rock bands of the last 20 years, all the usual NME bore bands.


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Is Radio X alot different to XFM then? I thought it was just a rebadge a couple of weeks ago? Haven't listened too much since to notice huge differences.



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Is Radio X alot different to XFM then? I thought it was just a rebadge a couple of weeks ago? Haven't listened too much since to notice huge differences.


It has Chris Moyles.  That's difference enough.  He talks for half an hour and you are lucky to hear one song in the morning.  Throw in Vernon Kay and Johnny Vaughan as DJs and it gone to sh!t most of the time.  Evenings and weekends aren't as bad, but generally it is garbage.

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I tend to listen to Absolute or Planet Rock. Radio 2 is occasionally on in the car. So many channels now.

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Thin Lizzy, Horse lips Undertones Stiff little fingers Some of U2s stuff ELO Beatles Anything by Lennon Pogoes Saw doctors Bowie Marc Bolan Some of Queens stuff Cars

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And XTC Great wee band

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They sound a lot more interesting than most modern rock bands of the last 20 years, all the usual NME bore bands.


 Alas the NME is dead.  Along with XFM.  It's the end of rock 'n' roll.

 


 I though it was going to be given away for free, which naturally would increase circulation. Most people nowadays just read about music online and there are so many different sources and direct band sites and forums etc. The place for an arbitor of taste and top down dictatorship is long gone. We've had our golden age of music, just like the golden age of Hollywood- from the mid sixtes to the late nineties music was pretty fundamental to our sense of identity. Now it's got lots of competition from so many other areas.

Re music on radio I just couldn't be bothered. i prefer Radio 4, Rte radio 1 or bbc 5 live for politics and sport. I can only listen to music in the afternoon or nighttime being a bit of an owl type and the idea of listening to music in the morning is really unappetizing for me.



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They sound a lot more interesting than most modern rock bands of the last 20 years, all the usual NME bore bands.


 Alas the NME is dead.  Along with XFM.  It's the end of rock 'n' roll.


 I though it was going to be given away for free, which naturally would increase circulation. .


 It is a freebie now, but bears little relationship to what it was.  More generic like the freebie Time Out.  You can get the NME free on your iPad. If you can be bothered.



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2011 How To Compose...  (BlowFish)  the year is young!


2011 Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds - Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds (What a Life)

2012 Sonik Kicks - Paul Weller  (Green)

2013 Reflektor -  Arcade Fire (Reflektor)  (Meaning 2010 needs revising to Brothers - Black Keys (Everlasting Light)

2014 Royal Blood - Royal Blood (Figure It Out)

2015 FFS - FFS  (Call Girl)

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Currently listening to joe Jackson ,John foxx & im Gonna surprise you all by sayin. Enya yeh enya ( I've turned to the dark side) so it's out here

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Haven't bothered with a TOTP 1983 thread this year, but worth noting Joe Jacksons excellent Steppin Out is currently on its way to number six, from the album Night and Day. Good video.



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Yeh had night and day ( still got on vinyl & cd) fab album incidentally he is on about his27th album released 2015 called fast forward very good cd love it

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other music - apart from The Boomtown Rats I like XTC, Echo and The Bunnymen, Magazine, Captain Beefheart, The Saints, Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machiene, The Band Of Holy Joy, Nirvana, Goldfrapp, Blur, Super Furry Animals, Pulp.Scott Walker and Radiohead.

There are and were loads of really good indie bands too numerous to mention. A lot of the indie bands have one or two hit albums and then disappear but they still leave a mark- bands  like Geneva , My Life Story  and David Devant and his Spirit Wife.

Good contemporary acts include Gorillaz, Joanna Newsome, Hard Fi, Kasier Chiefs, Golden Silvers.

If people bother they can find lots of current good music- Pitchfork website is good for checking on whats cool and interesting. Anyone generally into alternative culture or music tends to know where to look as it is a bit of a lifetime habit.


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Still Little Fingers, The Undertones, Horse Lips, Hothouse Flowers, Thin Lizzy, The Beatles, The Saw Doctor's, Energy Orchard (Belfast) Great wee song. Goat's Don't Shave Gung Ho,    Roger Taylor Love his Fun In Space album.



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Listening to a lot of Pulp, XTC and Echo and the Bunnymen at the moment. Think Noel mentioned London's Brilliant Parade recently elsewhere. This is a superb track as is The Other Side of Summer by Elvis Costello. Of course, neither did much in the charts but that's fine by me. Think the fabulous parent album was Brutal Youth with the second best song ever with All the Rage in the title on it wink



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I listen to joe jackson. I have all his albums also prefab sprout. And my guilty pleasure is birdy I like quite a diverse mix of artists although rats are fave I collect about 6differnt artists/groups etc



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ArrGee wrote:
noelindublin wrote:

other music - apart from The Boomtown Rats I like XTC, Echo and The Bunnymen, Magazine, Captain Beefheart, The Saints, Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machiene, The Band Of Holy Joy, Nirvana, Goldfrapp, Blur, Super Furry Animals, Pulp.Scott Walker and Radiohead.

There are and were loads of really good indie bands too numerous to mention. A lot of the indie bands have one or two hit albums and then disappear but they still leave a mark- bands  like Geneva , My Life Story  and David Devant and his Spirit Wife.

Good contemporary acts include Gorillaz, Joanna Newsome, Hard Fi, Kasier Chiefs, Golden Silvers.

If people bother they can find lots of current good music- Pitchfork website is good for checking on whats cool and interesting. Anyone generally into alternative culture or music tends to know where to look as it is a bit of a lifetime habit.


 Not quite as leftfield as I remembered


 Depends on how you define leftfield. Adorable will always be a better band than Oasis .



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There's not too many artists i'm fully dedicated to listening to, but I do enjoy Warren Zevon and Adam Ant/& The Ants :)



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