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....bowie sure does! oh my god...he's amazing, did anyone here see Fashion rocks? well if you didn't, you really missed something...


the first song he did was Life on Mars (of course), he came on with a blackeye and a bandage around his hand...before I got that that was part of the show... well, he was just brilliant, some people don't like his "old man voice", but I do.... second song was one with Arcade fire, by then he'd lost the blackeye...


well it made my day!



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Shame I missed all that, Bowie is excellent. I saw him on his Glass Spider tour in the late 80's. Fantastic, would like to see him live again. How can any one person produce so much brilliant music? I've never been let down by anything he has done. The man is a genius and highly talented artist

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oh yes...he is brilliant isn't he and I've only been a fan for about a year..


you know Jules, I *cough* happen to have the videos of him doing both life on mars, and the bit with arcade fire,so...if you want it...



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wow... is that online?

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he is deeply coolhes on totp this sunday at 7:00 doing starman i think.or so it says on the site

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wow... is that online?


hihi....yeah, you can get it online...go to http://www.mist-mirrorz.com/ and click on the "files" button.. it's all there (plus an interview from the serious moonlight tour, btw)




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Yeah bowie is cool. I like the music from his early days, and I actually see him as a Front figure for the punk fashion and music. He looks so cool on the picture where he has the red hair, I think, and paint on his face Wow

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He looks so cool on the picture where he has the red hair, I think, and paint on his face Wow



ah, the ziggy-era...oh yes, he did look...well he looked fantastic (still does- even though he doesn't strip down to his underwear on stage anymore..)  I think the picture you're refering to is the cover of the album Aladdin Sane? with the lightningbolt painted across his face?



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My internet connection is playing up for some reason - it keeps telling me it isn't connected when it IS!! And when I clicked on these it came up with rubbish. I'll try again tomorrow. It normally plays these files without a problem.

Thanks Johanna.

I prefer a more mature Bowie, to me he has improved with age. But I like the more mature male

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Yeah I think thats right johanna, that must be the picture. Did he strip   Ha thats funny. I don't know that much about bowie, actually nothing when I think of it. But I do know many of his songs. I didn't like his 60's look, with the brown strange hairkut.

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those vids are really cool.so is the mph one at the end.just seen bowie on totp doing starman as well as ian dury and the blockheads doing hit me with your rythm stick.sadly the pussycat dolls are at no.1.theyr aweful

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I've never been let down by anything he has done.


Not even Absolute Beginners?  Or Tin Machine? (or ahem, Little Drummer Boy)


Though Bowie has recently made a slight return (Heathen/Reality), I think he spent about twenty years letting people down.


I think Scary Monsters was his last great album. Let's Dance was OK and Tonight was bearable, but apart from odd tracks like the Buddha of Suburbia/ Hearts Filthty Lesson, Bowie did little of any worth from 1984-2002.


From Hunky Dory through to Scary Monsters, rarely (if all all) did Bowie disappoint, and mostly it was brilliant.


PS I even like the Laughing Gnome!



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Not even Absolute Beginners?  Or Tin Machine? (or ahem, Little Drummer Boy)


*cough* let's start with Tin Machine...ok, the second album (and the live album) weren't all that good, although there were some good songs on both...but the first album? I actually quite like it, with songs like Heaven's in here and I can't read it I just can't agree...


Though Bowie has recently made a slight return (Heathen/Reality), I think he spent about twenty years letting people down.


spend 20 years letting people down? now that's a bold statement if I ever did see one.. and a slight return? slight? Heathen is a brilliant album and it shows, to me anyway, exactly why Bowie's Bowie...now, I can say that I was a bit let down when I first heard Reality, even though it is a good rockalbum, it's not quite Bowie-standard...(seems that way to me anyhow) But don't you say anything bad about Heathen!


I think Scary Monsters was his last great album. Let's Dance was OK and Tonight was bearable, but apart from odd tracks like the Buddha of Suburbia/ Hearts Filthty Lesson, Bowie did little of any worth from 1984-2002.


ok, Let's dance and Tonight...both are as you said bearable, but not much more than that..(even though I cannot resist the titletrack from Tonight...aww) Never let me Down of must be the lowest point in his career...that album must be hard even for completists to like.. (If I remember correctly Bowie even went out and said he was sorry for how bad it was when he'd released it..) But then the 90s arrived...ok, Black tie white noise, Buddha of Subburbia and Outside are good albums, even though they aren't brilliant all the way through..(but then are there really more than a handful albums, made by any artist/band, that are perfect? most albums have one or two tracks that don't quite cut it...in my own humble opinion of course!) But then it happened..Hours..You have to admit that it's a very good album, and then of course with the next album, Heathen, and he's back on track..


From Hunky Dory through to Scary Monsters, rarely (if all all) did Bowie disappoint, and mostly it was brilliant. PS I even like the Laughing Gnome!




ha..yeah, true enough, still, weren't pretty much all those albums done when he was doing drugs? living on cocaine and milk will make your imagery grow a bit wild ( I assume!) still...David Live, Young Americans and Station to station remain some of my favoritealbums by any artist/band..


laughing gnome? ha..yeah, it's funny, ahh, but have you heard Love you till Tuesday in german? now we're talking...



ha...sorry for the rant! maybe I woke up on the wrong side of the bed...



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spend 20 years letting people down? now that's a bold statement if I ever did see one.. and a slight return? slight? Heathen is a brilliant album and it shows, to me anyway, exactly why Bowie's Bowie...


Heathen apart (and I would say it's not as good as anything from Hunky Dory to Scary Monsters), Bowie has disappointed rather than thrilled.   Slight return is probably not fair, but until Heathen, I'd pretty much given up on anything new by Bowie, but the found stuff on there and Reality was rather good.


It was the "I've never been let down by anything he has done." that I took isssue with given the last 20 years or so. 



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 Heathen apart (and I would say it's not as good as anything from Hunky Dory to Scary Monsters), Bowie has disappointed rather than thrilled.   Slight return is probably not fair, but until Heathen, I'd pretty much given up on anything new by Bowie, but the found stuff on there and Reality was rather good. It was the "I've never been let down by anything he has done." that I took isssue with given the last 20 years or so. 


You really really would say that Heathen is not as good as anything from Hunky Dory to Scary Monsters? ok..ha..let's just say we disagree..Also I think it must different when you were actually there, got ziggy and aladdin sane and all of those albums when they came out (not that I know if that can be applied to you...) and then being shocked by the albums that came in the 80s and early 90s..I imagine he lost many fans at that point, fans that hopefully returned by the time hours and heathen came..


to get back on track here, the comment by Jules made about never feeling let down by anything he's ever done.. isn't something I'd agree with either..it really isn't, but.no wait, no buts..gotta go have lunch before I complicate this even more..



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ArrGee wrote:  Also I think it must different when you were actually there, got ziggy and aladdin sane and all of those albums when they came out (not that I know if that can be applied to you...) and then being shocked by the albums that came in the 80s and early 90s..


Well, I was more or less there! Didn't get all the albums @ the time (I was only 9 when Ziggy came out), but by 1980, I had grown up listening to Bowie on the radio and gone all the way back to The Man Who Sold the World and the Decca stuff.


I do think that Bowie is the most important act ever (more so than the Beatles/Elvis/Stones/Dylan etc.).  Pretty much everything I like leads back to his influence.  However, his influence pretty much ended with Scary Monsters.  I can't imagine too many acts cite Let's Dance or Tonight as big influences, nor anything post.


I'm not sure fans once disappointed ever really come back.  Take Geldof.  I have been listening to sex age & death for the first time in recent weeks.  Though Scream In Vain and $6m loser are very good tracks, and overall it's not bad, I find myself wishing he'd write stuff like Howard Hughes and Eva Braun. 


The moment I lost the faith was Deep in the Heart of Nowhere.  Even Mondo and V Deep were forgiveable as they were valid attempts to push the sound on.  Some worked, some didn't.  DITHON was like bad MOR rock.


I never really cared much after that.  Gave VoL and Happy Club a once over, much the same as sa&d. 



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I do think that Bowie is the most important act ever (more so than the Beatles/Elvis/Stones/Dylan etc.).  Pretty much everything I like leads back to his influence.  ... I'm not sure fans once disappointed ever really come back.  Take Geldof.  I have been listening to sex age & death for the first time in recent weeks.  Though Scream In Vain and $6m loser are very good tracks, and overall it's not bad, I find myself wishing he'd write stuff like Howard Hughes and Eva Braun.  The moment I lost the faith was Deep in the Heart of Nowhere.  Even Mondo and V Deep were forgiveable as they were valid attempts to push the sound on.  Some worked, some didn't.  DITHON was like bad MOR rock. I never really cared much after that.  Gave VoL and Happy Club a once over, much the same as sa&d. 


Another reason we find each other mad.  I can't imagine putting Bowie anywhere near the Beatles/Elvis/Stones/Dylan category, and you know how I feel about 90% of the Rats v. BGs solo work (with the exception of DITHON which I find absolutely unlistenable, so I guess that brings the total down to 75% right there....hmmmm).


Thinking about Bowie makes me remember bits of my history - kids in school who loved him and emulated the glam dress thing, which I thought was bizarre given that I found his music no more than tolerable.


How Bowie makes it to the holy firmament is beyond my comprehension.  But then, I actually own Tin Machine, and while I've only played it once or twice, I don't remember hating it.  IN fact, it's the only Bowie record I own, apart from a Greatest Hits package I copied from a friend (onto cassette) back in the day.  I don't listen to that either.  All I can say about Bowie is that most of the time, when he comes on the radio I won't change the channel.


 



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IN fact, it's the only Bowie record I own, apart from a Greatest Hits package I copied from a friend (onto cassette) back in the day.


Just Tin Machine.  No wonder you don't like him much!


Oddly enough, Bowie is about the only thing (and Dr. Feelgood) I listen to in the car when the radio isn't on.  But to be fair that's the legacy of having most of his albums on tape, and I have yet to get a CD player in the car.


Hits packages are a bit of a mixed bag.  With some artists they are ideal by getting rid of all the filler on the albums, whereas for others they dilute. 


So for me, Elvis is well suited to a hits package, likewise Beatles prior to Rubber Soul; whereas Bowie isn't.


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No, I'm not mad.  I'm not surprised you feel that way.


I think it's more accurate to view my purchase of Tin Machine as the only record of his I ever found interesting enough to buy (and that was probably because I liked the video for the single release - or because it's "about" NYC).  Who knows, if I ever have the opportunity or inclination to listen to the earlier stuff that so annoyed me as a teenager, I might actually like it.  Problem is, I have no interest in exploring.  I just don't think I'll ever be a Bowie fan, and that's fine.  He has enough.


Oh - and I've never heard Dr. Feelgood.  Everytime I see the words written I think of Aretha Franklin (the top of the holy firmament heap, as far as I'm concerned).



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I do think that Bowie is the most important act ever (more so than the Beatles/Elvis/Stones/Dylan etc.).  Pretty much everything I like leads back to his influence.  However, his influence pretty much ended with Scary Monsters.  I can't imagine too many acts cite Let's Dance or Tonight as big influences, nor anything post.


yeah? well I can agree with him being more important than beatles, stones and dylan...of course he is...I think it's pretty natural that his influence was bigger during the 70s than the 80s or 90s, and I'm sure alot of the bands that cite Bowie as a major influence often mean the 70s stuff.... Still belive he has influence with the latest albums though, but agreed not as big..


I'm not sure fans once disappointed ever really come back.  Take Geldof.  I have been listening to sex age & death for the first time in recent weeks.  Though Scream In Vain and $6m loser are very good tracks, and overall it's not bad, I find myself wishing he'd write stuff like Howard Hughes and Eva Braun.  The moment I lost the faith was Deep in the Heart of Nowhere.  Even Mondo and V Deep were forgiveable as they were valid attempts to push the sound on.  Some worked, some didn't.  DITHON was like bad MOR rock. I never really cared much after that.  Gave VoL and Happy Club a once over, much the same as sa&d. 






Hrm...well that's interesting, I hadn't listened to geldof, or rats, for a couple of months now, when this saturday I listened to The Boomtown Rats...and it's just brilliant isn't it? this thing about disappointed fans not coming back, well..that would have to depend on the artist/band wouldn't it...there is something about Bowie that makes people come back for more, even after the nasty burns he gave us in the 80s... geldof/rats, well they were never the band, or am I totally wrong? I guess it's just the way that when an artists made an album you really love, you kinda want them to stay the same, or at least keep that sound as far as possible... the fact that the rats were so inconsistent I'm sure has a big part in them being whiped out of the industry so quickly..


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Tango wrote: the blockheads doing hit me with your rythm stick. Ha Ha, that sounds like an arwfull song, the name of it is rediculos


you havent heard it!?!?!?!its brilliant.i used to think it was a bit wierd but its grown on me and now i love it


heres the lyrics, very good


HIT ME WITH YOUR RHYTHM STICK
(Written by Ian Dury)
Ian Dury & The Blockheads


In the deserts of Sudan and the gardens of Japan
From Milan to Yucatan, ev'ry woman, ev'ry man

Hit me your rhythm stick, hit me, hit me
Je t'adore, ich liebe dich, hit me, hit me, hit me
Hit me with your rhythm stick
Hit me slowly, hit me quick
Hit me, hit me, hit me

In the wilds of Borneo and the vineyards of Bordeaux
Eskimo, Arapaho, move their body to and fro

Hit me with your rhythm stick, hit me, hit me
Das ist gut, c'est fantastique, hit me, hit me, hit me
Hit me with your rhythm stick
It's nice to be a lunatic
Hit me, hit me, hit me

Hit me, hit me, hit me!

In the dock of Tiger Bay, on the road to Mandalay
From Bombay to Santa Fé, o'er the hills and far away

Hit me with your rhythm stick, hit me, hit me
C'est si bon, mm? Ist es nicht? Hit me, hit me, hit me
Hit me with your rhythm stick
Two fat persons, click, click, click
Hit me, hit me, hit me
Hit me, hit me, hit me - hit me, hit me ....


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I do think that Bowie is the most important act ever (more so than the Beatles/Elvis/Stones/Dylan etc.).  Pretty much everything I like leads back to his influence.  

Ten years on, nothing has changed. 

It funny but at the time of this thread, he had just released two pretty decent albums and now ten years on, he has made another two good albums. I was listening to Blackstar at the weekend and found it utterly compelling.  In retrospect, it's his own obituary.   He will be missed.



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I think I will be getting Blackstar next month. Nice to read our posts singing his praises from a decade ago.

As you say, nothing has changed.

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I do think that Bowie is the most important act ever (more so than the Beatles/Elvis/Stones/Dylan etc.).  Pretty much everything I like leads back to his influence.  

Ten years on, nothing has changed. 

It funny but at the time of this thread, he had just released two pretty decent albums and now ten years on, he has made another two good albums. I was listening to Blackstar at the weekend and found it utterly compelling.  In retrospect, it's his own obituary.   He will be missed.


 Lazarus is wonderful and his voice sounds great. Nearly 13 million hits on YouTube.Lyrics could be about death, drug trip  or freedom. Nicely ambivalent.

I've been listening to the live version of Breaking Glass from Stage 1978. This is much better than the version on Low btw.

'Ive heard very good reports of Blackstar but I'm not sure if all the songs pertain to death?



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I've heard very good reports of Blackstar but I'm not sure if all the songs pertain to death?

They pretty much all do except maybe Tis a pity she was a whore.

The most pertinent lyric is "Where the fcuk did Monday go?"  , it's almost as if he knew the date and time...

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/lyrics-david-bowie-album-blackstar-article-1.2493789



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I've heard very good reports of Blackstar but I'm not sure if all the songs pertain to death?

They pretty much all do except maybe Tis a pity she was a whore.

The most pertinent lyric is "Where the fcuk did Monday go?"  , it's almost as if he knew the date and time...

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/lyrics-david-bowie-album-blackstar-article-1.2493789


 Kind of spooky and sad. 



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