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Geldof hits back at chorus of criticism from charities


By Maxine Frith, Social Affairs Correspondent
Published: 14 September 2005

Sir Bob Geldof hits back today at the growing chorus of criticism from charities over his role in the Make Poverty History campaign and the staging of the Live8 concerts.

Writing in today's Independent, Sir Bob insists that the G8 summit deal on aid and debt will save millions of lives and called for an end to "internal squabbling" within the campaign. Some members of the Make Poverty History (MPH) coalition have attacked Sir Bob for overestimating the achievements of the G8 and allowing the massive publicity surrounding Live8 to "obscure" the voices of smaller campaigners and charities.

After the Gleneagles summit in July, he told the world's media: "A great justice has been done. On aid, 10 out of 10; on debt, eight out of 10 ... mission accomplished, frankly."

But both the coalition as a whole and some of the members feel the summit did not go far enough. Since world leaders announced a doubling of aid to the poorest countries at the G8, it has emerged that the figure includes debt relief. There are also concerns that countries such as Germany and Italy may not honour financial commitments to increase aid.

Dave Timms, spokesman for the World Development Movement lobby group, said: "We really disagree on his assessment of the G8 summit. The campaign has called for total debt cancellation without strings attached, but the summit deal was only for 18 countries and there were strings.Our other concern has been that Live8 completely obscured the enormous amount of hard work that MPH had put into making people realise that they could put pressure on the world's leaders to do something about it. With Live8, you had pop stars making simplistic statements about how people in Africa were poor. No one needs to be told that."

John Coventry, of War on Want, said: "[Sir Bob] got too close to the Government and he got burnt."

Sir Bob is now with Tony Blair at the United Nations world summit in New York in a bid to save the G8 deal. He is more circumspect about the Gleneagles summit now but insists it was a step in the right direction towards ensuring faltering progress on the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) was renewed.

"Barely 10 weeks ago, the political elite of our world reached an agreement that would, if implemented, keep alive millions of people who would otherwise die," he says. "The package [of aid and debt] backed at Gleneagles outlined a way to put the MDGs back on track. Those of us involved always knew it would be a long, incremental process."

He adds: "It has been, within our limited terms of reference, a success, but it is not nearly adequate. If the G8 break their solemn pledges to the poor, there must be a reckoning."

Other charity members of the campaign, for instannce Oxfam, have been anxious to avoid criticising Sir Bob's work. Richard Bennett, who chairs the Make Poverty History coalition, said: "While we disagreed with Bob Geldof's assessment of the outcome of the G8, we are now deeply concerned that world leaders are set to fall short not only of our objectives but even of the steps the G8 themselves agreed to in Gleneagles. It is not one individual but the world's most powerful governments whose actions should be under scrutiny."

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at last hes fighting back!hes right ho.if they really want it to work mph need to stop critising everything

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Stop criticising, stop fighting sort it out out of the public eye and get on the with job in hand - campaiging for justice for the poor. There is still much work needed.

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Seems to me like some people idealistically thought that after Live 8, poverty and debt would be erased from Africa at break neck speed for good.


The more I read about the criticism of Bob, the more it seems that people place the blame solely with him which is rediculous and incredible.


Africa's problems are a totality of several factors, particularly political. There is red tape everywhere. To say that one concert event was going to do away with that makes me think that Make Poverty History" and the others were fooling themselves.


Bob is one person. MPH says that he ruined the great progess that they've made. (I personally didn't know about them before Live 8) They and the others need to join together and have a united front when confronting leaders about the poverty and debt in Africa.


To push Bob Geldof out front, then leave him out there when things don't go right, doesn't make MPH and the others seem all that impressive to me.



-- Edited by lovelymocca at 23:43, 2005-09-14

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Jules wrote:


 Writing in today's Independent, Sir Bob insists that the G8 summit deal on aid and debt will save millions of lives and called for an end to "internal squabbling" within the campaign.


The Article.....


http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article312437.ece


but the start and end....


Bob Geldof: Our fight goes on to make poverty history



Published: 14 September 2005


Barely 10 weeks ago, the political elite of our world - having been pushed and cajoled, and then ambushed by a truly massive public lobby and some hard-nosed political negotiations - reached an agreement that would, if implemented, keep alive millions of people who would otherwise die.


In a break with custom, the eight members of the world's most exclusive club each appended their signature to what they had agreed. In doing so they expanded the previously limited horizons of the G8 with regard to the poorest people of our world, the bulk of whom live in Africa, a continent a mere 8 miles from Europe at its nearest point.


Gleneagles agreed to implement 50 of the 90 recommendations made by the Commission for Africa set up by Tony Blair to analyse a way out of the African malaise. In Gleneagles, the G8 proposed deals on debt cancellation and aid (an extra $25bn (£14bn) a year for Africa) far more significant than anyone could have imagined a year ago.


(yada yada yada)


 


There is much to do to lift the poor, sick, powerless and uneducated out of their miserable conditions. I'd like to see the Commission's aid deal delivered by the earlier date of 2008, not the later one of 2010. The Dutch and Belgians must stop trying to dismantle the debt deal, which must not be delayed beyond next week's meetings of the IMF and World Bank, nor used as a backdoor means to pile on conditions.


The world has become impossibly Dickensian. We no longer wear top hats nor carry canes but we still swerve around the bodies of the ill and dying in the midst of plenty. Everything that has happened in the past year - the Commission for Africa, Make Poverty History, Live 8, the Gleneagles G8 and now the UN summit - has been designed to try to bridge the gap between those two worlds. It has been, within our limited terms of reference, a success but it is not nearly adequate. The task before global anti-poverty campaigners is to hold our governments accountable, accelerate delivery, and support improvements, especially on trade. And if the G8 break their solemn pledges to the poor, there must be a reckoning.


We must not be distracted from aggressive implementation by side arguments or internal squabbling. I am almost frightened by the urgency of this task.



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"[A]ppended their signature..."  Sweet.   Sometimes less is more, sometimes more is more.  So much for the minimalism of "signed."


-- Edited by franna at 00:12, 2005-09-16

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