For those who missed out first time (Doing It Right)

noelindublin · Loudmouth

For those who missed out first time (Doing It Right)

ArrGee1991 · Dave

noelindublin wrote:
Anyone got any 'interesting' venues the Rats could play in ?

They could support Muse at Highbury. They could support Stone Roses at Finsbury Park. They could turn up as special guests with Wilko Johnson at Koko. All of those would be interesting to me.

Leixlip Castle, Fox Theater, Hope & Anchor, Roundhouse and The 100 Club, would be interesting. Sadly Moran's, The Haçienda, The Rainbow and The Marquee are no longer around, otherwise they'd be on the agenda. The new Cavern Club or The Garage would be good. If they really wanted to impress, they could do a night at The London Palladium or the Theatre Royal Drury Lane. Maybe a return to Whyteleafe.

However, if push comes to shove, the best place they could play would be Hammersmith Apollo (formerly Odeon). Echoes of 1978, and the end of Ziggy in 1973.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee1991 wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
Anyone got any 'interesting' venues the Rats could play in ?
They could support Muse at Highbury. They could support Stone Roses at Finsbury Park. They could turn up as special guests with Wilko Johnson at Koko. All of those would be interesting to me.
Leixlip Castle, Fox Theater, Hope & Anchor, Roundhouse and The 100 Club, would be interesting. Sadly Moran's, The Haçienda, The Rainbow and The Marquee are no longer around, otherwise they'd be on the agenda. The new Cavern Club or The Garage would be good. If they really wanted to impress, they could do a night at The London Palladium or the Theatre Royal Drury Lane. Maybe a return to Whyteleafe.
However, if push comes to shove, the best place they could play would be Hammersmith Apollo (formerly Odeon). Echoes of 1978, and the end of Ziggy in 1973.

Jesus we wait 26 years and then you're happy to see them play as a support act. To bloody Muse. Jesus wept. Talk about low expectations. Others want Geldof to perform with bloody Bon Jovi. Sod BJ just crass American rock for morons.

Were talking about The Boomtown Rats here. Maybe Suss can persuede Geldof to do Whyteleafe. Any film a DVD too! No we need a thirty date tour of the UK and Ireland like in the old days and some European and American dates too. Just for starters.

ArrGee1991 · Dave

noelindublin wrote:
Jesus we wait 26 years and then you're happy to see them play as a support act. To bloody Muse. Jesus wept. Talk about low expectations. Others want Geldof to perform with bloody Bon Jovi. Sod BJ just crass American rock for morons.
Were talking about The Boomtown Rats here. Maybe Suss can persuede Geldof to do Whyteleafe. Any film a DVD too! No we need a thirty date tour of the UK and Ireland like in the old days and some European and American dates too. Just for starters.

Realistically they aren't going to headline Highbury are they? As I have a ticket for Muse at the hallowed ground, having The Rats play would be a nice warm up for the Isle of Wight. Likewise Finsbury Park.

I think the Rats need to do a few high profile dates rather than an extensive tour.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee1991 wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
Jesus we wait 26 years and then you're happy to see them play as a support act. To bloody Muse. Jesus wept. Talk about low expectations. Others want Geldof to perform with bloody Bon Jovi. Sod BJ just crass American rock for morons.
Were talking about The Boomtown Rats here. Maybe Suss can persuede Geldof to do Whyteleafe. Any film a DVD too! No we need a thirty date tour of the UK and Ireland like in the old days and some European and American dates too. Just for starters.
Realistically they aren't going to headline Highbury are they? As I have a ticket for Muse at the hallowed ground, having The Rats play would be a nice warm up for the Isle of Wight. Likewise Finsbury Park.
I think the Rats need to do a few high profile dates rather than an extensive tour.

An extensive tour caters for all the thousands that would like to see the Rats but may not be lucky to get a ticket for an exclusive high profile gig, most likely in London. Think of all the people that missed out on seeing the Rats and would like the chance. The Rats saw the value in extensive touring, playing lots of UK provincial gigs because london was swamped by punk acts and the Rats started off in places like Blackburn and Crewe rather than the 100 Club.

By extensive I mean about 20-30 dates around the UK Ireland over a period of time, maybe promoting a new album. Its easy to cherry pick the glamorous gigs like IOW and some of the cooler festivals but equally nothing beats the intimacy of a medium sized indoor venue. Just like football grounds I've come to know the names of all the traditional venues in the uk eg Leicester de Montford Hall, Bristol Colston Hall, Liverpool Empire etc For the best part of ten years the Rats could sell these type of venues. Touring these again would be giving something back to the fans rather than just going for one or two high profile gigs.

Of course it all depends on what the band choose to do and if they deem it worth going in that direction. One hint is that Geldof's solo career has sort of taken off a bit, in that he has played a good bit around the UK without cancelling so with The Boomtown Rats in tow, maybe a new single on the radio it's as near as we'll get to the glory days. I'd like the chance to follow a potential tour around the Uk so that's where I'm coming from . Just having a few gigs, though very welcome might disappoint a lot of people who can't get to the IOW through financial or time constraints or geographical factors.

ArrGee1991 · Dave

noelindublin wrote:
An extensive tour caters for all the thousands that would like to see the Rats but may not be lucky to get a ticket for an exclusive high profile gig, most likely in London. Think of all the people that missed out on seeing the Rats and would like the chance. The Rats saw the value in extensive touring, playing lots of UK provincial gigs because london was swamped by punk acts and the Rats started off in places like Blackburn and Crewe rather than the 100 Club.
By extensive I mean about 20-30 dates around the UK Ireland over a period of time, maybe promoting a new album. Its easy to cherry pick the glamorous gigs like IOW and some of the cooler festivals but equally nothing beats the intimacy of a medium sized indoor venue. Just like football grounds I've come to know the names of all the traditional venues in the uk eg Leicester de Montford Hall, Bristol Colston Hall, Liverpool Empire etc For the best part of ten years the Rats could sell these type of venues. Touring these again would be giving something back to the fans rather than just going for one or two high profile gigs.
Of course it all depends on what the band choose to do and if they deem it worth going in that direction. One hint is that Geldof's solo career has sort of taken off a bit, in that he has played a good bit around the UK without cancelling so with The Boomtown Rats in tow, maybe a new single on the radio it's as near as we'll get to the glory days. I'd like the chance to follow a potential tour around the Uk so that's where I'm coming from . Just having a few gigs, though very welcome might disappoint a lot of people who can't get to the IOW through financial or time constraints or geographical factors.

Realistically, that was then and this is now. The Rats are not going to have the same level of interest they had in 1985. I don't think there are thousands who want to see them. People our age attend far fewer than they used to. I could count on my fingers all the acts old and new I would consider seeing in the next twelve months, and I probably only go to about half a dozen gigs tops. The venues mentioned are unlikely to be on the agenda, and hardly anyone does 30 date tours.

It is smarter to do high profile gigs. Pulp have only done 5 UK gigs in the last 18 months. 4 in London and 1 in Sheffield. Otherwise it has been festival appearances. They have been smart in making all five of their gigs special events and had people travelling from far and wide to see them. Arguably the smartest move of all was to play the Teenage Cancer Trust, where a third of the audience weren't necessarily fans.

As for promoting an album, it's the other way round these days. Bands practically give away the abum to get bums on seats. Black Keys, Killers, Kasabian and Arctic Monkeys sales aren't anything special, but their gate/appearance money is. And they make a lot on merchandise.

The Rats should play festivals galore along with gigs in Dublin and London. The gigs should be in small venues that sell out and not in half empty theatres.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee1991 wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
An extensive tour caters for all the thousands that would like to see the Rats but may not be lucky to get a ticket for an exclusive high profile gig, most likely in London. Think of all the people that missed out on seeing the Rats and would like the chance. The Rats saw the value in extensive touring, playing lots of UK provincial gigs because london was swamped by punk acts and the Rats started off in places like Blackburn and Crewe rather than the 100 Club.
By extensive I mean about 20-30 dates around the UK Ireland over a period of time, maybe promoting a new album. Its easy to cherry pick the glamorous gigs like IOW and some of the cooler festivals but equally nothing beats the intimacy of a medium sized indoor venue. Just like football grounds I've come to know the names of all the traditional venues in the uk eg Leicester de Montford Hall, Bristol Colston Hall, Liverpool Empire etc For the best part of ten years the Rats could sell these type of venues. Touring these again would be giving something back to the fans rather than just going for one or two high profile gigs.
Of course it all depends on what the band choose to do and if they deem it worth going in that direction. One hint is that Geldof's solo career has sort of taken off a bit, in that he has played a good bit around the UK without cancelling so with The Boomtown Rats in tow, maybe a new single on the radio it's as near as we'll get to the glory days. I'd like the chance to follow a potential tour around the Uk so that's where I'm coming from . Just having a few gigs, though very welcome might disappoint a lot of people who can't get to the IOW through financial or time constraints or geographical factors.
Realistically, that was then and this is now. The Rats are not going to have the same level of interest they had in 1985. I don't think there are thousands who want to see them. People our age attend far fewer than they used to. I could count on my fingers all the acts old and new I would consider seeing in the next twelve months, and I probably only go to about half a dozen gigs tops. The venues mentioned are unlikely to be on the agenda, and hardly anyone does 30 date tours.
It is smarter to do high profile gigs. Pulp have only done 5 UK gigs in the last 18 months. 4 in London and 1 in Sheffield. Otherwise it has been festival appearances. They have been smart in making all five of their gigs special events and had people travelling from far and wide to see them. Arguably the smartest move of all was to play the Teenage Cancer Trust, where a third of the audience weren't necessarily fans.
As for promoting an album, it's the other way round these days. Bands practically give away the abum to get bums on seats. Black Keys, Killers, Kasabian and Arctic Monkeys sales aren't anything special, but their gate/appearance money is. And they make a lot on merchandise.
The Rats should play festivals galore along with gigs in Dublin and London. The gigs should be in small venues that sell out and not in half empty theatres.

I just hope that there are more gigs than the IOW and just playing 'high profile' gigs doesn't mean much. Most likely a semi dismissive or vaguely praiseworthy mention in a posh newspapers music column. Praise to Garry and Simon and the others with RAM for putting in the slog around some fairly out of the way places. I get the feeling they care about the fans. If it was beneath them they wouldn't have bothered.

Bands like Pulp and the Killers and kasabian can pick and choose where they play and do the 'Teenage Cancer' thing to show they have a conscience. They do not lack the profile or money. They can play 30 date tours at the drop of a hat, but sometimes they choose not to for various reasons.

As re new album it's sad that people claim they like music but do not see fit to purchase it, either by download or cd or vinyl. I fail to think of any band I really like that I would not want to buy their latest work. I think in the end the fact that the Rats are playing together again is amazing, and we should take what were given and be greatful! We'll be spoiled if they release a new album and do a tour. Only time can tell.

Derek The Dane · V Deep

Me,I am of to IOW to see The Boomtown Rats.That for me is amazing enough,Anything more the Boomtown Rats do after that is a massive bonus.

suss · In the Long Grass

noelindublin wrote:
Were talking about The Boomtown Rats here. Maybe Suss can persuede Geldof to do Whyteleafe.

Might need to blindfold him to get through Croydon en route...or the s**thole as he referrered to it last time I saw him, on stage I hasten to add, in case this thread suggests he pops round for tea on a frequent basis. Bit concerned Bon Jovi will be fussy about being asked to be the support though smile

Going back to topic, would be great to see a few who were too young first time round get the opportunity and more importantly relish it. Suspect this is more likely in the festival scenario, where Rats surprise all those attending for other bands, but as Noel says there are more under 40s or even 30s than you would expect at many 'new' Rats gigs. Hope they're not all the offspring of former fans.

I'd compare it to when some 60s band roll into Croydon. I go out of curiosity, invariably enjoy gig more than I expected, very often add another 'hits' CD to my collection.

Fact is that great songs are timeless whatever any trendy yoof says, and I'll fully admit to coming round to bands I might once have shown disdain as a callow (never trendy) yoof just cos they were 'old'. Provided they can still play the classic songs well, the hearts and minds are soon won over.

Shouldn't be any issue for Rats on that score.

Ian D · House on Fire

noelindublin wrote:
Ian D wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
Best 'old timers gig' I ever saw was Love, the sixties psychedelic band best known for classic album Forever Changes. The played two gigs in Dublin in the early naughties and I went to both. Singer Arthur Lee was brilliant, a real rock icon and a totally memorable performance.Rather than being past it and going through the motions this was one of those special live concerts, and I suspect that when they came back to Dublin a year later with a mini orchestra, to get the full benefit of the original sound on Forever Changes, most of the audience had been at the previous gig.
He was the only member of the original line up ,but was ably backed by a great young band called Baby Lemonade who had been more or less performing as Love for a number of years.
Again most of the audience at the gig were not born when Love reigned in the tail end of the sixties.Point being that if band is good enough then fans will always emerge from the next generation of music fans.I would Like to think it would be the same with the Rats, and Geldof can do an Arthur Lee style masterclass with the bulk of the original Boomtown Rats.
Noel, one of the BBC local DJ's played Alone Again Or a few months ago and it blew me away. Fantastic song. If you haven't got the Forever Changes DVD concert from 2001 i recommend you get it. Filmed at the Festival Hall in London. A group definitely before my time, but i wish i got the chance to see Arthur Lee before he died.
I think my favourite song by Love is Maybe The People Could Be The Times( Between Clarke and Hilldale) but Forever Changes is one of my top ten all time albums. I am a big fan of sixties psychedelic music, I think it was one of the most creative eras in music, and there are so many great bands from that time. There is lots of more obscure psychedelic music from that time to be discovered- all those lost bands that time has forgotten.
I bought the DVD but I remember thinking it didn't capture the feeling I had in Dublin, not necessarily saying it was bad. Back in the eighties I asked a friend who was a music fan if he had any good psychedelic music, so he taped about four of the songs on Forever Changes.
Arthor Lee, like Bob Geldof oozes charisma on stage. It's a pity he passed away a few years ago. Also he spend time in prison.

Yes he certainly had a coulouful life did Arthur.
A House Is Not A Motel is another fave of mine, great guitar solo at the end.

Any other psychedelic bands you recommend from that time Noel?

-- Edited by Ian D on Monday 4th of February 2013 06:00:35 PM

-- Edited by Ian D on Monday 4th of February 2013 06:02:23 PM

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Best 'old timers gig' I ever saw was Love, the sixties psychedelic band best known for classic album Forever Changes. The played two gigs in Dublin in the early naughties and I went to both. Singer Arthur Lee was brilliant, a real rock icon and a totally memorable performance.Rather than being past it and going through the motions this was one of those special live concerts, and I suspect that when they came back to Dublin a year later with a mini orchestra, to get the full benefit of the original sound on Forever Changes, most of the audience had been at the previous gig.

He was the only member of the original line up ,but was ably backed by a great young band called Baby Lemonade who had been more or less performing as Love for a number of years.

Again most of the audience at the gig were not born when Love reigned in the tail end of the sixties.Point being that if band is good enough then fans will always emerge from the next generation of music fans.I would Like to think it would be the same with the Rats, and Geldof can do an Arthur Lee style masterclass with the bulk of the original Boomtown Rats.

Ian D · House on Fire

noelindublin wrote:
Best 'old timers gig' I ever saw was Love, the sixties psychedelic band best known for classic album Forever Changes. The played two gigs in Dublin in the early naughties and I went to both. Singer Arthur Lee was brilliant, a real rock icon and a totally memorable performance.Rather than being past it and going through the motions this was one of those special live concerts, and I suspect that when they came back to Dublin a year later with a mini orchestra, to get the full benefit of the original sound on Forever Changes, most of the audience had been at the previous gig.
He was the only member of the original line up ,but was ably backed by a great young band called Baby Lemonade who had been more or less performing as Love for a number of years.
Again most of the audience at the gig were not born when Love reigned in the tail end of the sixties.Point being that if band is good enough then fans will always emerge from the next generation of music fans.I would Like to think it would be the same with the Rats, and Geldof can do an Arthur Lee style masterclass with the bulk of the original Boomtown Rats.

Noel, one of the BBC local DJ's played Alone Again Or a few months ago and it blew me away. Fantastic song. If you haven't got the Forever Changes DVD concert from 2001 i recommend you get it. Filmed at the Festival Hall in London. A group definately before my time, but i wish i got the chance to see Arthur Lee before he died.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Ian D wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
Best 'old timers gig' I ever saw was Love, the sixties psychedelic band best known for classic album Forever Changes. The played two gigs in Dublin in the early naughties and I went to both. Singer Arthur Lee was brilliant, a real rock icon and a totally memorable performance.Rather than being past it and going through the motions this was one of those special live concerts, and I suspect that when they came back to Dublin a year later with a mini orchestra, to get the full benefit of the original sound on Forever Changes, most of the audience had been at the previous gig.
He was the only member of the original line up ,but was ably backed by a great young band called Baby Lemonade who had been more or less performing as Love for a number of years.
Again most of the audience at the gig were not born when Love reigned in the tail end of the sixties.Point being that if band is good enough then fans will always emerge from the next generation of music fans.I would Like to think it would be the same with the Rats, and Geldof can do an Arthur Lee style masterclass with the bulk of the original Boomtown Rats.
Noel, one of the BBC local DJ's played Alone Again Or a few months ago and it blew me away. Fantastic song. If you haven't got the Forever Changes DVD concert from 2001 i recommend you get it. Filmed at the Festival Hall in London. A group definitely before my time, but i wish i got the chance to see Arthur Lee before he died.

I think my favourite song by Love is Maybe The People Could Be The Times( Between Clarke and Hilldale) but Forever Changes is one of my top ten all time albums. I am a big fan of sixties psychedelic music, I think it was one of the most creative eras in music, and there are so many great bands from that time. There is lots of more obscure psychedelic music from that time to be discovered- all those lost bands that time has forgotten.

I bought the DVD but I remember thinking it didn't capture the feeling I had in Dublin, not necessarily saying it was bad. Back in the eighties I asked a friend who was a music fan if he had any good psychedelic music, so he taped about four of the songs on Forever Changes.

Arthor Lee, like Bob Geldof oozes charisma on stage. It's a pity he passed away a few years ago. Also he spend time in prison.

suss · In the Long Grass

Ian D wrote:
one of the BBC local DJ's played Alone Again Or a few months ago and it blew me away. Fantastic song.

Second that. The fact the Damned still play their version of it live effectively proves our collective point that great songs are timeless, and when played by some/all the originals are almost seminal. A Rats reminder in June will hopefully generate at least sufficient interest for some current band(s) to borrow a track, even if they (i.e. the band doing the borrowing) are the sort of band that will never ever chart again.

Wonder how Blondie feel about 1D doing One Way or Another, apart from laughing all the way to the bank.

Hmmmm...reckon Adele would knock out a mean 'I Can Make It', and Bruno Mars could probably do 'Banana Republic' justice smile

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Ian D wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
Ian D wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
Best 'old timers gig' I ever saw was Love, the sixties psychedelic band best known for classic album Forever Changes. The played two gigs in Dublin in the early naughties and I went to both. Singer Arthur Lee was brilliant, a real rock icon and a totally memorable performance.Rather than being past it and going through the motions this was one of those special live concerts, and I suspect that when they came back to Dublin a year later with a mini orchestra, to get the full benefit of the original sound on Forever Changes, most of the audience had been at the previous gig.
He was the only member of the original line up ,but was ably backed by a great young band called Baby Lemonade who had been more or less performing as Love for a number of years.
Again most of the audience at the gig were not born when Love reigned in the tail end of the sixties.Point being that if band is good enough then fans will always emerge from the next generation of music fans.I would Like to think it would be the same with the Rats, and Geldof can do an Arthur Lee style masterclass with the bulk of the original Boomtown Rats.
Noel, one of the BBC local DJ's played Alone Again Or a few months ago and it blew me away. Fantastic song. If you haven't got the Forever Changes DVD concert from 2001 i recommend you get it. Filmed at the Festival Hall in London. A group definitely before my time, but i wish i got the chance to see Arthur Lee before he died.
I think my favourite song by Love is Maybe The People Could Be The Times( Between Clarke and Hilldale) but Forever Changes is one of my top ten all time albums. I am a big fan of sixties psychedelic music, I think it was one of the most creative eras in music, and there are so many great bands from that time. There is lots of more obscure psychedelic music from that time to be discovered- all those lost bands that time has forgotten.
I bought the DVD but I remember thinking it didn't capture the feeling I had in Dublin, not necessarily saying it was bad. Back in the eighties I asked a friend who was a music fan if he had any good psychedelic music, so he taped about four of the songs on Forever Changes.
Arthor Lee, like Bob Geldof oozes charisma on stage. It's a pity he passed away a few years ago. Also he spend time in prison.
Yes he certainly had a coulouful life did Arthur.
A House Is Not A Motel is another fave of mine, great guitar solo at the end.
Any other psychedelic bands you recommend from that time Noel?

-- Edited by Ian D on Monday 4th of February 2013 06:00:35 PM

-- Edited by Ian D on Monday 4th of February 2013 06:02:23 PM

The closing track on Forever Changes called You Set The Scene is one of the best songs ever written.

Recommended psychedelic acts: Off the top of my head I think all the Syd Barrett solo albums are brilliant. Scottish 'psyche folk' The Incredible String Band are really good.Traffic, The Move, The Pretty Things, Beatles, Crazy World of Arthur Brown, Gong, Soft Machine, Moby Grape, The Dukes of Stratosphere (XTC in disguise), Tomorrow. And that's just the Brits...

There are loads of good psychedelic compilation albums, like the famous Nuggets and countless imitations which feature very obscure bands which often only recorded a few singles and were forgotten. A good psychedelic number always hits the spot with me- in terms of genre it is way up there, and the vaults are full of great long lost masterpieces. There were even lots of good Dutch psychedelic bands ,which sang in perfect English.

Now where's my sitar....

Ian D · House on Fire

Thanks for that Noel, I shall investigate the bands you suggest.

suss · In the Long Grass

Stumbled across this link as a result of this thread.

http://www.jango.com/music/Love?l=0

Handy in that it lists similar bands, many of which listed by Noel, and good for samplers.

Mark L · Loudmouth

Really interesting that extensive touring came to pass. And happens again shortly.

Just need some new songs.

You can't rule anything out these days!

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

We keep being told there are new songs, but see no evidence of it. Except for Ratlife etc.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Jules wrote:
We keep being told there are new songs, but see no evidence of it. Except for Ratlife etc.

I posed the question a while back, which is more likely a new Geldof solo album or a new Rats album? Geldof has made no mention of not ever wanting to make records again, so it's a very intriguing situation.

Bob seems to be happier saying things in interviews rather than in new songs. I just wish there had been a few new songs that were worthy of the bands legacy rather than a seemingly rushed quartet of pretty turgid songs most of us agree are substandard.

Nice if the upcoming gigs would include 1 or 2 new songs that will genuinely perk up our ears. Geldof as a surrender monkey seems a bit odd.In the old days there would always be new songs to deal with any current situation.

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Be happy with what we have 5 great albums and one not so great album Oh and then 4 new songs something to do with rats boomtown and going back again in them. So for me they are Doing it right?

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
which is more likely a new Geldof solo album or a new Rats album?

At this moment, I'd say a new Rats album. The solo career currently exists as dates in obscure places with no real need to appeal to any fan base. It looks like Geldof is attending a conference and just plays the nearest town.

I don't really want a new album. It could never be as good as I'd want it to be and most likely so poor I'd never listen to it. The Ratsh!t EP is a case in point. I haven't listened to it apart from the day I got it.

PS - Does bobgeldof.com work for anyone I tried on a couple of browsers, but aside from the latest news link nothing works.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

manatthetop wrote:
Be happy with what we have 5 great albums and one not so great album Oh and then 4 new songs something to do with rats boomtown and going back again in them. So for me they are Doing it right?

Two absolutely brilliant LPs, two top notch LPs and two pretty good on the whole LPs. I'd say that at least half the songs on all the LPs were top notch. I think the Ratsh!t EP can be considered an aberration.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Bobgeldof.com is working fine and was for me last night too.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Jules wrote:
Bobgeldof.com is working fine and was for me last night too.

I clicked on APPEARANCES at the top and nothing happened. Likewise all the other links. And on the book. I have tried at home and work with different browsers. Maybe they just have an ArrGee block

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Have you tried again? If no luck, either I'm privileged or you're blocked

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Jules wrote:
Have you tried again? If no luck, either I'm privileged or you're blocked

Yes, just tried. the bobgeldof sites have always been a bit quirky. I don't know why they don't simplify it.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

That was how BG wanted it. Explain it? Lol