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Which other songs would you like the Rats to play live? [select as many as you like, but the more you select the less it stands out] [49 vote(s)]

Don't Believe What You Read
10.2%
Blind Date
10.2%
Living In An Island
6.1%
Do The Rat
6.1%
I Can Make It If You Can
4.1%
Barefootin'
0.0%
My Blues Away
0.0%
Doin' It Right
0.0%
Wind Chil Factor (minus zero)
6.1%
Nothing Happened Today
8.2%
Keep It Up
10.2%
Straight Up
4.1%
Go Man Go
2.0%
Never in a Million Years
4.1%
House on Fire
8.2%
Drag Me Down
10.2%
Dave
10.2%
All Through The City
0.0%
She Does It Right
0.0%
Riot in Cell Block #9
0.0%


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With 19 songs played live in the public rehersals, I guess they don't really need anymore, but if I could add another two or three they would be

  • Don't Believe What You Read
  • Living In An Island
  • Blind Date

Why should The Stone Roses be the only reformed band to play an album in its near entirety ? smile

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For the record, so far they have played...

Eva Braun

Clockwork

Neon Heart

She's Gonna Do You In

I Don't Like Mondays

She's So Modern

Diamond Smiles

Mary of the Fourth Form

Looking After Number One

Rat Trap

Elephant's Graveyard

Close As You'll Ever Be

Banana Republic

Joey's On The Street Again

When The Night Comes

Having My Picture Taken

Someone's Looking At You

Me & Howard Hughes

Back In The Night



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I just remembered I asked Bob if they would have a backing band for Rat Trap/Joey etc and I think he said they would. The great man went on to explain that nowadays you can just do all this on synch/keyboards, but it's not the same. So I'm not sure if our old moustached friends will be along, with their trombones and sax and bus passes.

House On Fire is a very summer weather song, I think- might work if the bring the backing band. I'd like to see they play Drag Me Down, also like Tonight a lot but don't think this will be on the list. 

Geldof has his head well screwed on. I mentioned to him that a lot of people, in general at gigs, would be too drunk to really notice what a band plays. Geldof   said that no one would be drunk at 3 0' Clock in the afternoon. 

They also did the 'Boom Boom' song, and I Wanna Be Your Man- I think as a medley during one of the Rats songs. Finally there are lots of songs I would like them to play, like Straight Up or Over Again, but because these are 'obscure' to the casual fan who does not have, or remember the album tracks, it just lessens the impact of the hit singles and more well known songs.



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noelindublin wrote:
 Geldof has his head well screwed on. I mentioned to him that a lot of people, in general at gigs, would be too drunk to really notice what a band plays. Geldof   said that no one would be drunk at 3 0' Clock in the afternoon. 


 Oh dear, is it frowned upon then? Maybe I can last until 4 pm if I try hard..

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Lisa wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
 Geldof has his head well screwed on. I mentioned to him that a lot of people, in general at gigs, would be too drunk to really notice what a band plays. Geldof   said that no one would be drunk at 3 0' Clock in the afternoon. 


 Oh dear, is it frowned upon then? Maybe I can last until 4 pm if I try hard..

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But I will still concentrate on what they play ..


 I saw Geldof up close, on Friday night, discuss with others of this parish what songs they should play.He is taking this very seriously and each song they tried to choose was akin to selecting the side for a World Cup final. Boomtown Bob can talk the hind legs off a donkey, mightily impressive.

Lisa did you know know alcohol is prohibited in the IoW?



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Geldof  said that no one would be drunk at 3 0' Clock in the afternoon. 

He should have been at Finsbury Park at the weekend.  The gates didn't open until 4pm....  I was drunk at 3pm but sober at 10pm, simply because I had my beers before I got there.  If you do plan to drink at a festival drink early cos you can always get to the portoloos and back at that point.  That advice only applies for guys.  For girls, you just have to miss the next act.

I had a similar policy in Dublin last December, but only stayed off the drink whilst the Rats played, hic

 



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ArrGee wrote:
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Geldof  said that no one would be drunk at 3 0' Clock in the afternoon. 

He should have been at Finsbury Park at the weekend.  The gates didn't open until 4pm....  I was drunk at 3pm but sober at 10pm, simply because I had my beers before I got there.  If you do plan to drink at a festival drink early cos you can always get to the portoloos and back at that point.  That advice only applies for guys.  For girls, you just have to miss the next act.

I had a similar policy in Dublin last December, but only stayed off the drink whilst the Rats played, hic

 


Of course people will be drunk at 3 O'Clock at IoW. But the Rats will be sober, and put in a good performance. Plenty of time to get drunk later if one so desires.



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It's a festival!! I'll probably be only sober person there. That's only because I can't drink alcohol lol. Silly man .

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noelindublin wrote:
Lisa wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
 Geldof has his head well screwed on. I mentioned to him that a lot of people, in general at gigs, would be too drunk to really notice what a band plays. Geldof   said that no one would be drunk at 3 0' Clock in the afternoon. 


 Oh dear, is it frowned upon then? Maybe I can last until 4 pm if I try hard..

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But I will still concentrate on what they play ..


Lisa did you know know alcohol is prohibited in the IoW?


 Don't be a tease, Noel!  Besides have been there before without being locked up or extradited!

Thing is, if I just drink water, will end up needing the loo far more than if I drink a certain amount of alcohol - but a fine art in judging the right amount to temporarily dehydrate you!



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Lisa wrote:
Thing is, if I just drink water, will end up needing the loo far more than if I drink a certain amount of alcohol - but a fine art in judging the right amount to temporarily dehydrate you!

Tricky call.  What I do is bring a bottle of water and just sip as required.   No need to go to the toilet at all.  

But if you are prepared to risk sunstroke then I can recommend my Dublin regime.  Half a bottle of dry red on the coach to the airport, three brandies at the airport and on the flight. Another half bottle of dry red on the bus to Dublin, followed by a couple of pints of Guinness just before the band appear.   Not only are you very dehydrated at this juncture and unable to go to the toliet for another couple of days, your dancing is considerably improved, and you also appear to be given a wide berth.  Well until She's So Modern is played and Wes starts jumping around with you.

Only downside to this is sharing a hotel room with suss who didn't bother to tell you he set his alarm for 4am to take the singer to the airport no



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Did well to find the hotel at all!

The couple who I had met after the gig and left Johnny Rockets with were concerned for me, but I have an incredible homing instinct.   The number of times I have made it home with absolutely no idea how.  That night in Dublin was nothing.

I'm often amazed at what ends up in my pockets and on the kitchen table the morning after.  After our last works Christmas party, I got home along with a full bottle of wine and 100 boxes of matches.  Even when I checked my Oyster card journey history, it made little sense.  I went in and out of the same station at one point.   All I got in Dublin was the setlist and a poster.  Fortunately the band pack up early, otherwise we mave have had a Gibson and a snare drum in the corner when we were checking out.



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One early track I  really like is Born To Burn. So much energy, and it must contain the longest continuous  sentence or line in any Rats song. Just listened to it recently and it sounds brilliant. Unlikely though that the will dust it down for Cork.



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I'm sure I mentioned that. biggrin

Mind you after that lot I wouldn't blame you for not remembering. Did well to find the hotel at all!



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One early track I  really like is Born To Burn. So much energy, and it must contain the longest continuous  sentence or line in any Rats song. Just listened to it recently and it sounds brilliant. Unlikely though that the will dust it down for Cork.

Another song that refers to Rat or Rats.  How many are there?  I even noted the new verse in She's So Modern ends one verse with Boomtown Rat.  Geldof is starting to morph into Joe Strummer.

 



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Why is he doing this? To make a point the Rats are back? It's not necessary, give it up Bob .

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Why is he doing this? To make a point the Rats are back? It's not necessary, give it up Bob .


 Yes, I wish he would just write new songs without constantly referring to 'rats'. Surely he has some good ideas.I think eventually he will just write good songs but he seems to be in a sort of 'rats reverie'. He should just write about how modern life is rubbish and how the humdrum and mundane will always drive us insane.



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Hard Times is my current fav Rats song. Love the line 'spare a dime/ or a least a thousand p'. Could be used to comment on current economic times. 

Europe Looked Ugly again could be about the European economic malaise- 'oh oh oh ho what do we do now? Lyrics transcribed by Suss a while back but worth reading and thinking about:

Europe looked ugly the very last time that I saw her,

Cold and so empty she sucks in her teeth and looks tired.

She picks up her skirt, still coy, but no longer worth knowing.

She grins toothlessly, you can see the light die in her eyes.

 

 

Im taking my time, Im taking my time, I wont hurry.

Ill sit and Ill watch the last train wont leave for a while.

And the buildings themselves seem to sigh from the effort of standing,

While the trees and the people are bent from the effort of dying.

 

 

So I watched her from the window as she opened her legs wide before me,

And the train slithered by on its tracks like steel slug on slime.

And me, I keep thinking (Im? bout?) the iron that surrounds and protects her,

Cause a chastity belt for a whore seems almost to sublime.

 

 

Oh oh, what do we do now?

With you and your stories, we feel sorry for you. Yeah we do.

 

 

I dont like my body, the things that it needs just disgust me.

I dont like my mind, the things that it thinks arent quite sane.

But  I can still function as normal so long as my mouth moves.

They think its still kosher, Im lucky they cant see my brain.

 

 

Hey hey, oh oh, what do we do now?

With you(me) and your(my) stories, we feel sorry for you. Yeah we do.

 

 

Europe looked ugly the very last time that I saw her.

 

 

 



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Hard Times is great. Thought this could have been an A side, never mind a B side to Dave. Love the 'turn away' lyrics (which become 'don't turn away' as despair turns to hope and which there are shades of on Back to Boomtown - 'you can twist and turn but you can never turn away') and the general Churchillian feel to the song that if you're going through hell, the best advice is just to keep going. In '85, my then girlfriend suggested the Rats had become so broke and battered that they had resorted to playing the central heating pipes in the middle of this one. For her appalling judgement (and she would probably say that included choosing to go out with me in the first place) and a host of other things I grew to dislike about her, we split in '86.

I shed far more tears about a far bigger split that year though! 

 



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Hard Times is great. Thought this could have been an A side, never mind a B side to Dave. Love the 'turn away' lyrics (which become 'don't turn away' as despair turns to hope and which there are shades of on Back to Boomtown - 'you can twist and turn but you can never turn away') and the general Churchillian feel to the song that if you're going through hell, the best advice is just to keep going. In '85, my then girlfriend suggested the Rats had become so broke and battered that they had resorted to playing the central heating pipes in the middle of this one. For her appalling judgement (and she would probably say that included choosing to go out with me in the first place) and a host of other things I grew to dislike about her, we split in '86.

I shed far more tears about a far bigger split that year though! 

 


 I love that instrumental break in Hard Times. Yes it does sound a bit like the central heating pipes, deep note xylophone.



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Back in the summer of 83 i was reading about hard times being the new single as mark pointed out this song turned out to be the b side to dave, In my opinion this would have made a much better single an tonight or drag me down, Even liked tonight over drag me down But have to say i did like the usa drag me down over the uk one



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I prefer US version of Drag Me Down but still think Drag me Down UK version is slightly better than Hard Times and should have been the first single from ITLG - if released in late '83, along with a greatest hits selection for Christmas, it would have fared much better than 50.

To put nothing out in 1983 was odd and served to diminish the group in the public's memory.



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To put nothing out in 1983 was odd and served to diminish the group in the public's memory.


 I was way beyond caring what the public thought in 1983.   I think The Rats should have made more records anyway.  It's interesting how prolific Geldof was early on, but now he seems to write songs at the rate of about two per year.  The first three albums came out in a space of just over two years, and then the gaps got longer and longer.  Geldof's last three albums came out in the space of about twenty years not two!



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I should have written' To put nothing out in 1983 was odd which helped fade the public's memory of the group'

 



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I should have written' To put nothing out in 1983 was odd which helped fade the public's memory of the group'


I get the point, but as far as most groups I like are concerned, it's good that they have hits at some stage in their career so you know they exist but after that it doesn't really matter as you will then seek out their other work. 

With the Rats, I only became aware of them in the summer of 1978, so I still had to go back to the first album, and as more albums came out, I bought them.  Similar with Pulp, whose back catalogue went back to the early 1980s.  With the Teardrop Explodes, there wasn't too much going back, but I have continued buying Julian Cope records. 

In some ways, the less successful a band are regarding public exposure, the more interesting and personal they become.  Although it's great that Briquette and Geldof have returned, one of the last gigs with The Bradbury Rats, upstairs at Whelan's in Dublin,  was one of the best gigs I ever went to.  

The less people that like bands I like the better.  Enough to fill a bar or a hall, but not enough to fill a stadium.



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ArrGee wrote:

In some ways, the less successful a band are regarding public exposure, the more interesting and personal they become.  Although it's great that Briquette and Geldof have returned, one of the last gigs with The Bradbury Rats, upstairs at Whelan's in Dublin,  was one of the best gigs I ever went to.  

The less people that like bands I like the better.  Enough to fill a bar or a hall, but not enough to fill a stadium.


 I agree!  Always prefer a smaller venue, somehow seems more personal and special.  Having said that, I did enjoy the IOW festival.



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In some ways, the less successful a band are regarding public exposure, the more interesting and personal they become.  Although it's great that Briquette and Geldof have returned, one of the last gigs with The Bradbury Rats, upstairs at Whelan's in Dublin,  was one of the best gigs I ever went to.  

The less people that like bands I like the better.  Enough to fill a bar or a hall, but not enough to fill a stadium.


I agree!  Always prefer a smaller venue, somehow seems more personal and special.  Having said that, I did enjoy the IOW festival.


I enjoyed a number of festivals, but I do tend to get right to the front.  Most disappointing gig I have been to in recent years was The Black Keys, not because they weren't good, but because from the position I got to in the O2 (about halfway down standing on the flat), I could hardly see anything, except for on the big screens.  The trouble with going with mates is one always turns up late and you don't get close enough.   Well, not close enough for me!    

When Mrs. ArrGee goes to gigs we tend to get seats.  Mostly it's not an issue as I'm not too bothered about Morrissey, so sitting up in the circle isn't a big issue.  Best venue for seats is probably the Royal Albert Hall.  The stalls are close to the stage so you get a great view and you can see the reds of the eyes of the performers.



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It wasn't till the late '80s that I stopped caring too much what others thought of the Rats. In the period '82 to '86, it was a source of irritation to me that their star was fading, undeservedly I thought, and I could not understand at sixth form how each and every single from ITLG more or less stalled and why my peers thought this correct. Of course, they had been right about Charmed Lives in the summer of '82 but that was that single after all.

Then, as you indicate, years later I find the whole experience more interesting and personal. I found it incredible that in Bar Cuba at Macclesfield in 2001, I am assisting Geldof with the lyrics to songs, feet away in a very intimate club (best atmosphere in a way I have ever encountered).

Salford was good a year or so back, as the seats are close to the stage so you get a really good view with no leg strain or back ache (sorry but these are the considerations when you can see 50 approaching in the distance!).

 



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It wasn't till the late '80s that I stopped caring too much what others thought of the Rats... 

I think I stopped worrying around 1982 for many reasons. After V Deep was released, I went to university later that year and didn't really worry too much about music until around 1989.   I don't remember too much about that period, possibly because I was too busy enjoying myself...

Looking back, it's little wonder music wasn't that important to me back then, I struggle to find much of any interest.  It mostly sounds cr@p.



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I remember the BTR playing a Dutch television broadcasting called Countdown Live in 1979 and especially the opening song Nothing Happened Today. It had such power because of Simon's kind of "mini drum solo" at the start of the song that I really hope they will play it again and in the same way. They did a break after Simon's short "animalism" to catch the response of the (Dutch) audience and then went further on with the show. I think it will be still a live killer especially as opener. So this is my absolute favourite number 1 for the next gigs.

Second one is Wind Chill Factor, because it sounds a little bit like a horror song, though I think it's not easy to play it live to catch that same feel as on the album and all the breaks and the Johnnie Fingers fine art of piano playing. Very well produced song, still love it.

Third one is maybe a peculiar one for most of the Rats fans, but I like the song A Hold Of Me very much. Again very well produced song and great lyrics. Nice to see Bob playing the guitar himself here, though I don't like left handed guitar players (but I'm not going to write a song about that...biggrin). Nice guitar riff by Gary too.

It's all the rage, another great song, more punky, but I think they're forgotten that song?

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I remember the BTR playing a Dutch television broadcasting called Countdown Live in 1979 and especially the opening song Nothing Happened Today. It had such power because of Simon's kind of "mini drum solo" at the start of the song that I really hope they will play it again and in the same way. They did a break after Simon's short "animalism" to catch the response of the (Dutch) audience and then went further on with the show. I think it will be still a live killer especially as opener. So this is my absolute favourite number 1 for the next gigs.

Second one is Wind Chill Factor, because it sounds a little bit like a horror song, though I think it's not easy to play it live to catch that same feel as on the album and all the breaks and the Johnnie Fingers fine art of piano playing. Very well produced song, still love it.

Third one is maybe a peculiar one for most of the Rats fans, but I like the song A Hold Of Me very much. Again very well produced song and great lyrics. Nice to see Bob playing the guitar himself here, though I don't like left handed guitar players (but I'm not going to write a song about that...biggrin). Nice guitar riff by Gary too.

It's all the rage, another great song, more punky, but I think they're forgotten that song?

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 There was very good quality YouTube footage of the Rats on Dutch tv doing Having My Picture Taken from 1979/80. The audience of mainly teenagers were invited onto the stage during the song. Not sure if this was Countdown 1979, but it was certainly from some tv show in the Netherlands. It seemed to be a proper concert rather than a television show type setup. There are a few versions of Nothing Happened Today, live,  as b sides or extra tracks- one is from Cardiff 1982.

The footage is no  longer on YouTube, possibly due to some copyright infringement or something.

I think A Hold Of Me is one of the best Rats songs, and it was a single I think, even though it didn't chart. The Rats have shedloads of good songs but unfortunately only the better known ones, and some of the album tracks ever get played. I was at the Chagstock and Cork gigs and got the impression that most of the audience knew all the tracks ie the album tracks from the debut and Tonic albums. Sometimes it's good to give an audience a bit of credit rather than thinking the only know a handful of the singles.



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There was very good quality YouTube footage of the Rats on Dutch tv doing Having My Picture Taken from 1979/80. The audience of mainly teenagers were invited onto the stage during the song. Not sure if this was Countdown 1979, but it was certainly from some tv show in the Netherlands. It seemed to be a proper concert rather than a television show type setup. There are a few versions of Nothing Happened Today, live,  as b sides or extra tracks- one is from Cardiff 1982.

The footage is no  longer on YouTube, possibly due to some copyright infringement or something.

I think A Hold Of Me is one of the best Rats songs, and it was a single I think, even though it didn't chart. The Rats have shedloads of good songs but unfortunately only the better known ones, and some of the album tracks ever get played. I was at the Chagstock and Cork gigs and got the impression that most of the audience knew all the tracks ie the album tracks from the debut and Tonic albums. Sometimes it's good to give an audience a bit of credit rather than thinking the only know a handful of the singles.


 I think you're right about the Dutch TV broadcast: Veronica Broadcasting Organization did a "Boomtown Rats Special" during their Countdown in Concert program (or something) at the 16th of January 1980. Don' t know the actual recording date, could be the end of 1979 or the beginning of 1980 at Vredenburg Theatre (Utrecht), don't know for sure. I think it's january 1980, because the Rats did a short European Tour then. Only thing I can remember they opened rather furious with Nothing Happened Today and their stage with scaffolds and tube lights. If I hear the song now I wonder how good they actually were at that period. At that time I didn't recognize, because I was too young then and still a punk adept so knowing more than three chords was questionable... After so many years of music education I can hear now that they were way better than a lot of other bands of their time, not virtuoso, but very good at exploiting their strenghts. Especially Simon and Johnnie. Nowadays they still have it, but maybe have to do a lot of rehearsing. I'm looking forward to see them at The Roundhouse, sunday morning back to Amsterdam. And I hope I can say it loud:

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Do the rat,

Born to burn,

Barefooted

Neon heart,

 

And of corse most of the singles, What I liked about seeing them live was the fact that the did do a lot of the album tracks But saying this is a best off tour They will more than likely stick to what the have been running through. In 2005 when Geldof was promoting the last rats best off He did stick to the rats singles Allow we did have to hear some of his solo stuff   

 



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noelindublin wrote:
There was very good quality YouTube footage of the Rats on Dutch tv doing Having My Picture Taken from 1979/80. The audience of mainly teenagers were invited onto the stage during the song. Not sure if this was Countdown 1979, but it was certainly from some tv show in the Netherlands. It seemed to be a proper concert rather than a television show type setup. There are a few versions of Nothing Happened Today, live,  as b sides or extra tracks- one is from Cardiff 1982.

The footage is no  longer on YouTube, possibly due to some copyright infringement or something.

I think A Hold Of Me is one of the best Rats songs, and it was a single I think, even though it didn't chart. The Rats have shedloads of good songs but unfortunately only the better known ones, and some of the album tracks ever get played. I was at the Chagstock and Cork gigs and got the impression that most of the audience knew all the tracks ie the album tracks from the debut and Tonic albums. Sometimes it's good to give an audience a bit of credit rather than thinking the only know a handful of the singles.


 I think you're right about the Dutch TV broadcast: Veronica Broadcasting Organization did a "Boomtown Rats Special" during their Countdown in Concert program (or something) at the 16th of January 1980. Don' t know the actual recording date, could be the end of 1979 or the beginning of 1980 at Vredenburg Theatre (Utrecht), don't know for sure. I think it's january 1980, because the Rats did a short European Tour then. Only thing I can remember they opened rather furious with Nothing Happened Today and their stage with scaffolds and tube lights. If I hear the song now I wonder how good they actually were at that period. At that time I didn't recognize, because I was too young then and still a punk adept so knowing more than three chords was questionable... After so many years of music education I can hear now that they were way better than a lot of other bands of their time, not virtuoso, but very good at exploiting their strenghts. Especially Simon and Johnnie. Nowadays they still have it, but maybe have to do a lot of rehearsing. I'm looking forward to see them at The Roundhouse, sunday morning back to Amsterdam. And I hope I can say it loud:

You really should have been there, It was so fantastic!!!!!!


 Good to know the venue of that Rats Dutch tv special ie Vredenburg Theatre, Utrecht. It's a pity it was taken off YouTube-it may be available as a bootleg DVD. I will google it and see if I can find any more info on it.

We are having a fans meet up in London before the gig. Not fully arranged yet but you are welcome to come along if you wish. We normally meet up before gigs ie go to the pub, it's a good way of getting to know fellow fans. One of our regulars in from Holland.



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We normally meet up before gigs ie go to the pub, it's a good way of getting to know fellow fans. One of our regulars in from Holland.

 And not long ago we used to meet up in the pub itself because that's where they were playing



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Good to know the venue of that Rats Dutch tv special ie Vredenburg Theatre, Utrecht. It's a pity it was taken off YouTube-it may be available as a bootleg DVD. I will google it and see if I can find any more info on it.

We are having a fans meet up in London before the gig. Not fully arranged yet but you are welcome to come along if you wish. We normally meet up before gigs ie go to the pub, it's a good way of getting to know fellow fans. One of our regulars in from Holland.


Maybe I still have it as audio recording (mono of course) and also Parkpop Den Haag (The Hague) 1982 (stereo), a large popmusic festival that year among others like Comsat Angels (where are they now) and The Fixx (Red Skies at night, oooh-oooh oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oohooohoo...). I will attempt to try to get in at the attic and try to find the cassette (!!!) somewhere, if it's still there, I don't know. If found I will try to upload to YouTube or put it somewhere in the cloud so I can share it.

Thanks for the invitation to meet up somewhere before the gig. To be honest, I'm doing England-in-12-hours that day so my schedule is very tight. I even maybe skip the support act. But maybe there's an afterparty at The Roundhouse or something. Next train to Amsterdam goes Sunday morning and that night it's wintertime again, so lots of time. First I have to find a place in London where I can store my luggage, because the train stations in London do not have lockers anymore I read.



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...I'm doing England-in-12-hours that day so my schedule is very tight. I even maybe skip the support act. But maybe maybe there's an afterparty at The Roundhouse or something.
First I have to find a place in London where I can store my luggage, because the train stations in London do not have lockers anymore I read.

12 hours, sounds like my trip to Cork.  An after party, oh dear, I'll never get home!   I'll have to check the night bus routes.

No lockers, but you can leave your bags http://www.left-baggage.co.uk/articles/left_luggage_st_pancras.php  

I travelled very light to Cork.  I just brought a drawstring bag and all I used it for was to fill it up with booze and crisps at the Cork airport lounge on the way home...



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12 hours, sounds like my trip to Cork.  An after party, oh dear, I'll never get home!   I'll have to check the night bus routes.

No lockers, but you can leave your bags http://www.left-baggage.co.uk/articles/left_luggage_st_pancras.php  

I travelled very light to Cork.  I just brought a drawstring bag and all I used it for was to fill it up with booze and crisps at the Cork airport lounge on the way home...


Thanks ArrGee. I will try to "travel light". No booze for me (anymore), seeing and hearing the BTR live is enough to get drunk I think. Maybe there are some 24 hour shopping malls like in The States so I can sleep there or play some Rats songs on guitar or spend my pounds on stupid souvenirs beforing getting back to Amsterdam.

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Nothing Happened Today

Drag Me Down

A Hold Of Me

Radar Love (full version). Strange snippet during Mary Of The 4th Form. I think maybe Born To Be Wild (Steppenwolf) is a better choice, although I like to hear some Dutch influences...



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I think Barefootin' would go down well as an encore, or Born To Burn. Also Up All Night and Go Man Go.

 



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So many; as people have said above the Rats have shedloads of great songs

Late Last Night and How do you Do? for example - two killer B Sides; they would be the BEST song from some other's bands albums, and for the Rats they are just B-Sides. Plus, 'Born to Burn' - how was this just a B Side?? It is rocking!!

There are a couple above I've never heard; and I thought I had every Rats track

All through the City

She Does it Right

Riot in Cell Block H (I know they played this at early shows...is there a bootleg containing this track??)



- where can one hear these tracks?

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So many; as people have said above the Rats have shedloads of great songs

Late Last Night and How do you Do? for example - two killer B Sides; they would be the BEST song from some other's bands albums, and for the Rats they are just B-Sides. Plus, 'Born to Burn' - how was this just a B Side?? It is rocking!!

There are a couple above I've never heard; and I thought I had every Rats track

All through the City

She Does it Right

Riot in Cell Block H (I know they played this at early shows...is there a bootleg containing this track??)



- where can one hear these tracks?


 Before the band reformed Garry and Simon did a version of She Does It Right, with Garry on vocals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbL4N7iBv20

Simon did the vocals on Riot in Cell Block No 9 (Not the H Blocks!) again before they reformed.

Heres Dr Feelgoods original version , you can see how the Rats were inspired by them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHm7uIC84YM



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Maybe there are some 24 hour shopping malls like in The States so I can sleep there or play some Rats songs on guitar or spend my pounds on stupid souvenirs beforing getting back to Amsterdam.

No 24 hour malls, but there is late night cinema. Prince Charles does all nighters at the weekend.  This weekend it's a New York night .


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Only thing is you have to be there by midnight, but you can buy a ticket in advance.  Cheaper than a hotel room at £22.50, but doesn't look like anything is scheduled for the 26th.  yet.



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Of course should they do something completely different, here's a set with songs not played by the current line up (yet)

Kicks
Go Man Go
Don't Believe What You Read
Living In An Island
Blind Date
Late Last Night
Do The Rat
Keep It Up
Born To Burn
Barefootin
All The Rage
He Watches It All
Fall Down
So Strange
Up All Night
Hold of Me
Dave
Drag Me Down
House on Fire
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That would be brilliant. I am happy with the set they do, but this one thrown in for a change would be superb

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ArrGee wrote:

No 24 hour malls, but there is late night cinema. Prince Charles does all nighters at the weekend.  This weekend it's a New York night .


SHAFT
THE FRENCH CONNECTION
MEAN STREETS
SERPICO
TAXI DRIVER 
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Only thing is you have to be there by midnight, but you can buy a ticket in advance.  Cheaper than a hotel room at £22.50, but doesn't look like anything is scheduled for the 26th.  yet.



-- Edited by ArrGee on Thursday 17th of October 2013 03:51:36 PM


Thanks again ArrGee for some useful information. I will send a mail to The Roundhouse for the closing times at Saturday night. Maybe there's a Meet and Greet or something or afterparty. Anyway, no hotel, Salvation Army or red light district. I'm afraid of not getting awake early that morning, although that Sunday we get an hour extra, because of Wintertime. But I've got a problem if I can't make it on time that Sunday morning, because it's not possible to change to another train.

No problem, there will be night restaurants, pubs or even the stupid McDonalds or KFC and it's about 20 years ago I went to London for the last time, so after an awesome Rats gig maybe I'll do some sight seeing by night... And if it's raining, well let's take the advice of Paul Weller, I go down at the tube station at midnight, but I hope the lyrics of that song don't apply to me. Anyway, a drink with Prince Charles is also fine.



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BVD1965 wrote:
ArrGee wrote:

No 24 hour malls, but there is late night cinema. Prince Charles does all nighters at the weekend.  This weekend it's a New York night .


SHAFT
THE FRENCH CONNECTION
MEAN STREETS
SERPICO
TAXI DRIVER 
THE WARRIORS

Only thing is you have to be there by midnight, but you can buy a ticket in advance.  Cheaper than a hotel room at £22.50, but doesn't look like anything is scheduled for the 26th.  yet.



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Thanks again ArrGee for some useful information. I will send a mail to The Roundhouse for the closing times at Saturday night. Maybe there's a Meet and Greet or something or afterparty. Anyway, no hotel, Salvation Army or red light district. I'm afraid of not getting awake early that morning, although that Sunday we get an hour extra, because of Wintertime. But I've got a problem if I can't make it on time that Sunday morning, because it's not possible to change to another train.

No problem, there will be night restaurants, pubs or even the stupid McDonalds or KFC and it's about 20 years ago I went to London for the last time, so after an awesome Rats gig maybe I'll do some sight seeing by night... And if it's raining, well let's take the advice of Paul Weller, I go down at the tube station at midnight, but I hope the lyrics of that song don't apply to me. Anyway, a drink with Prince Charles is also fine.



 Prince Charles does all nighters at the weekend. Does the Daily Mail Know about this??smile



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Yes, there it is: (Watch Out For) The Normal People. This should be the opening song, or even better, Blind Date. Or even better, Nothing Happened Today.

Eva Braun is a very good song, but would be great at no. 3 or no. 4, not as opener. Keep It Up, maybe as second encore. Great up tempo song. Drag Me Down? Come on Boomtown Bob, Macca plays 40+ songs live and he's even 71!!! So, 25 songs at least.



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