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Don't know about Japan Mate But Go man go came out in Ireland as a single
Greetings to the North- I don't think it got much airplay in Ireland. I can't remember it ever being played on the radio, but I presume it was. RTE Radio Two was the pop station down here, and the were pretty supportive of the Rats, to be fair to them. But I cannot ever remember Go Man Go being played on Irish radio.
Nothing off ITLG - the 4 singles were the right ones (but not necessarily in the right order as Eric Morcambe would say)and anymore than 4 singles is excessive.
Man at the Top - I reckon Eva Braun could have been a big hit, propelled by a newspaper campaign of moral outrage against it and the group similar to Pulp's sorted for E's and Whizz. It could have also given the group a cult status. Think it would have stood more chance than Keep It Up, given that songs subject matter - though may have latter day potential for the soundtrack to Viagra adverts!
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I reckon Eva Braun could have been a big hit, propelled by a newspaper campaign of moral outrage against it and the group similar to Pulp's sorted for E's and Whizz. It could have also given the group a cult status. Think it would have stood more chance than Keep It Up, given that songs subject matter - though may have latter day potential for the soundtrack to Viagra adverts!
Was always surprised they didn't follow up Rat Trap with another single off Tonic. Blondie released near enough every track off Parallel Lines (some were B-sides), so another single in early 1979 wouldn't have been too excessive. I believe a remixed Joey, or even Howard Hughes/Living In An Island were considered as singles, but agree that Eva Braun could have been a cult classic.
Keep It Up would have been a better single than Diamond Smiles.
I have to agree with you here. Same with the 1st album. Didn't get why only two singles came off that one. Some good runner's for singles on that album
... with the 1st album. Didn't get why only two singles came off that one.
That was most likely to do with starting recording the second album before Mary was released. By the time Mary had dropped out, She's So Modern was ready. The first five singles were released in just over twelve months...
On another day, I could go with any of the above, except Talking in Code. It's ok, better live in its longer version, but I'd go with He watches it all first as an alternate single followed by Skin on Skin.
I have little time for Charmed Lives or Little Death off V Deep.
Another sad story is a great song. Love the sax work. It's like the sax actually sounds sad to complement what the song's about. Surely one of the better songs on In the Long Grass.
Jonathan Ross played this at Geldof's request when he was on his Radio 2 Saturday show years ago and Ross commented on what a strong song it is.
If the singles had gone in the order HoF, Watches and Million Years, then we may have seen top 15, 30 and 40 respectively.
Sadly, I don't think there was a top tenner to glean off V Deep no matter what order anything came out in. Times had changed. Madness brought out some stunning songs in the late '80s but nothing could trouble the charts as much as say 1982's other HoF (House of Fun) because it just fitted that summer perfectly somehow.
Would loved to have seen He Watches It All, as a single...
It is my favourite song by the Rats post-Tonic, but I don't know if it would have made a good single. House on Fire and Up All Night were the most likely singles off V Deep, and I was puzzled why Up All Night didn't get a UK release as a single given it had a video and was a club hit in the US.
Would loved to have seen He Watches It All, as a single...
It is my favourite song by the Rats post-Tonic, but I don't know if it would have made a good single. House on Fire and Up All Night were the most likely singles off V Deep, and I was puzzled why Up All Night didn't get a UK release as a single given it had a video and was a club hit in the US.
The lyrics for He wactches It All are a bit weird or vague. First of all I'm not sure who the narrator is. The song seems to be about casting a cold eye on fame, not being taken in, that the lives of the rich and famous are not anything to put much stock in. Geldof sings 'it all seems small', but I'm still not sure if he is talking about himself, or is the song based on some real life news clipping like Diamond Smiles?.
The lines asking 'did you read it in the Sunday papers?/ the headlines called him the Sailors deacon etc imply the song is actually based on a newspaper article. All very intriguing though hardly the stuff of a great single. It's certainly a good enough album track, but lacks that big thematic reach a good single normally has.
I generally like He Watches It All but of the other V Deep album tracks The Bitter End I've always rated highly- but then Geldofs laconic, jaded weiriness has always appealed to me. A lot of the songs on V Deep seem to have this worldview eg Europe Looked Ugly, the whole tone of Talking In Code, the irony of Charmed Lives even, to give it some credit.
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Would loved to have seen He Watches It All, as a single...
It is my favourite song by the Rats post-Tonic, but I don't know if it would have made a good single. House on Fire and Up All Night were the most likely singles off V Deep, and I was puzzled why Up All Night didn't get a UK release as a single given it had a video and was a club hit in the US.
The lyrics for He watches It All are a bit weird or vague.
I don't know what inspired the song, but it has some similarities to A Day in The Life and is quite Beatlesque at points. I like the mysterious nature of the song. At the time VCRs has just started to enter homes and it was possibly a comment on the way people could just sit there and watch so much and find it all becoming meaningless. The section about the break in is quite profound as once someone invades your home they create insecurity. Haven't got a clue where the lighthouse keeper comes in, but then I never had any idea why Paul McCartney suddenly got on a bus in A Day in The Life. However it does work. Well for me anyway. All that said, I don't think it was a single.
It would have certainly stood a far better chance than Charmed Lives in the singles stakes. It wouldn't have been the first time emerging technology had featured in the opening line (silicon chip / video) but it wouldn't have troubled the top 20. An intriguing and captivating song, I think it wasn't obvious single material but then again neither was Rat Trap.
Jonathan Ross played this at Geldof's request when he was on his Radio 2 Saturday show years ago and Ross commented on what a strong song it is.
If the singles had gone in the order HoF, Watches and Million Years, then we may have seen top 15, 30 and 40 respectively.
Sadly, I don't think there was a top tenner to glean off V Deep no matter what order anything came out in. Times had changed. Madness brought out some stunning songs in the late '80s but nothing could trouble the charts as much as say 1982's other HoF (House of Fun) because it just fitted that summer perfectly somehow.
Yeah I heard this was a sat morning. Ross was taken back at how good the band was. Just geos to show you.
Would loved to have seen He Watches It All, as a single...
It is my favourite song by the Rats post-Tonic, but I don't know if it would have made a good single. House on Fire and Up All Night were the most likely singles off V Deep, and I was puzzled why Up All Night didn't get a UK release as a single given it had a video and was a club hit in the US.
The lyrics for He watches It All are a bit weird or vague.
I don't know what inspired the song, but it has some similarities to A Day in The Life and is quite Beatlesque at points. I like the mysterious nature of the song. At the time VCRs has just started to enter homes and it was possibly a comment on the way people could just sit there and watch so much and find it all becoming meaningless. The section about the break in is quite profound as once someone invades your home they create insecurity. Haven't got a clue where the lighthouse keeper comes in, but then I never had any idea why Paul McCartney suddenly got on a bus in A Day in The Life. However it does work. Well for me anyway. All that said, I don't think it was a single.
In my opinion not much to pick of this V deep album for singles Mark just might be right the right songs came out as singles (Apart from Charmed Lives)
The light house keeper thing might come from his childhood as he did live in a shipping port. East would home
