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Has been announced. Waiting for news of the line up.†



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A handful of not particularly interesting names, but doesn't matter as long as it sells:

news.sky.com/story/1370501/1d-sheeran-and-sande-all-on-band-aid-single

more from the Mirror: ††http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/band-aid-30-live-announcement-4603027



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To pre order a CD and enter a competition to be there at the recording on Saturday:

www.bandaid30.com/

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Bob said they would have to change some of †the lyrics to reflect the ebola situation. I wonder how this will work out? When the Rats were doing Howard hughes in Portsmouth Geldof sang 'There's flies everywhere, f****** with the air'. I doubt he'll be this explicit, but trust Geldof to come up with something.

In the meantime he's proved he's a bona fide pop/rock star again, with the Rats comeback, so we need not worry †too much about his being a 'forgotten' pop star.

All i know is the guy from Elbow is one of the stars of the new recording. Good luck to 'em all and roll on the next Rats gig.smile



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In the meantime he's proved he's a bona fide pop/rock star again, with the Rats comeback, so we need not worry †too much about his being a 'forgotten' pop star.


Strange he is often referred to as "The former Boomtown Rats singer"†

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/11220735/Band-Aid-30-line-up-revealed.html

The former Boomtown Rats singer said he was inspired to raise money for the fight against Ebola by a call from the United Nations and reading about the bravery of nurses and doctors who had flown out to treat victims.



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Jules wrote:

To pre order a CD and enter a competition to be there at the recording on Saturday:

www.bandaid30.com/


It's exciting enough to be at Maida Vale next week, I don't want to go Geldof Crazy! † As it will probably be loads of 1D fans, I'd look like their dodgy uncle.

Anyway, I'm off to the England game. †Need something a little calming in my life.



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I've just come off a forum where they posted about some Africans saying these charity songs can make the situation out in Africa worse.

sorry but it seems to me theyre being totally up their arses........... really, am I missing something here???

I mean presumably charity helps in some ways huh? - or am I completely bloody wrong in thinking that

here's the link

www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/11/bob-geldof-ebola-africa-band-aid-bono-one-direction-famin-20141113833733496.html


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I suggest they should of used their voices to communicate better with us not bloody tell us our efforts are in vain

how crap is that for communication skill?

they do nothing better for the image imo.

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makes me think when student feminists were up in arms about this cheeky lil number..........

www.youtube.com/watch

cos I like to think the majority aren't stupid........ people don't go out and rape women because of a song, generally speaking....

and neither do they see Africa in any worse light because of a bloody charity song..

hmm wonder if those people interviewed on the Aljazeera site have ever really needed charity in their life?

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so many people seem to be banging on about how it doesn't fix the problem....

well bloody tell us normal jo bloggses what the hell DOES help!!!

oh its always anti this anti that..... its about time people everywhere, not just AFrica, but here as well, explained themselves a bit better!!

communication gone out the window!! if it was ever inside the window....

perhaps its just **** media saying what they want instead of what's wanted to be said

oh god sometimes I think people are just round the bend

I'm supposed to be the nuts one and yet sometimes I feel its the rest of the world that's mad!!!

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yeh anyway, talk of taking a simple gesture completely out of the context it was meant in.

yeh the lyrics suck....... maybe they could of got someone living in Africa to write it... hmm now theres an idea....

but blimey, its just a bit of dosh to help. we're being made to feel we've done something wrong.

I blame the media for not airing the whole debate here. surely there's more to it than this.......

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I hear the argument that short term fix is only papering over the cracks and making the countries concerned become more dependent. Doesn't hold up. This is a crisis and a crisis has to be addressed as an emergency and dealt with. These people are not doing their research and finding that Geldof is also doing much work to campaign for long term change etc.

I'm sure there are many ways the whole project could be criticised, academically. I'm not looking for them. The most important important thing is getting equipment and health workers etc out there needed to eradicate Ebola. That far outweighs anything else.

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People forget he was ASKED to do this by the UN.



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Jules, could you possibly send me any links you have to Bob's longer term projects for change in Africa?

its pretty frustrating all round here, I think, this dire lack of communication presented to us by the media...

I've long thought countries should be more self sufficient including us and Africa, so Africa can feed itself instead of exporting where people go hungry, poor etc. etc.

charity I would of thought could help in setting up self sufficient communities....

and btw I'm sorry if I was ranting when I posted above comments, I was rattled. rattled by this hopelessly dire level of communication...... hmmmm.

Africa feed itself.

England feed itself.

anyway, they are my thoughts, and perhaps they are akin to some Africans.... there's always conflict of interest in any country.

but what would be the fairest situation of all I wonder?

too much interdependency I've said it time and time again.

Keynes thought the same during the latter part of his life.

So, btw I wasn't drinking at all last night. I make that comment because someone mentioned they always assume I am drunk on here. I'm afraid its just my way sober lol - I rarely drink when I am on here. once in a blue moon.

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also seems to be going around everywhere about Geldof tax dodging

its just seems to me he'd get less flack if he did sweet FA and didn't seem to possibly give a siht.

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Not sure I have any links, but he's campaigned and lobbied governments on policy change. That's long term. Band Aid funds hospitals and schools etc, which are long term local projects.

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Live 8 wasn't about short term measures. It was about long term change. You'd be right about him getting less flack if he didn't care, didn't bother and did nothing. I'm banning people left right and centre of FB. Most of it is nastiness for the sake of it, with no argument behind if obscured facts.

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Joan of arc style posting going on here. He's involved in the One campaign. That's also about changing policy in the long term.

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I'm banning people left right and centre of FB. Most of it is nastiness for the sake of it, with no argument behind if obscured facts.


†Ah, so glad the Band Aid/Live Aid/Live 8 forum is hidden away these days. †Saves me a whole lot of†unnecessary bother. ††



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Africa feed itself.

England feed itself.


Bl00dy hell, if England has to feed itself, we'd all starve. †UK imports more than 40% of the total food consumed. †We spend close to £20bn on food imports. † It is†envisaged†that in 20 years time that without†significant†increases in yield that Britain will face †food shortages as those countries that export will have less to export due to their own†indigenous†demands. †



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Most of the arguments lack substance and kind of fact. They've been reading too many tabloids. DON'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU READ.

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No 1 in 69 countries including the UK.

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Africa feed itself.

England feed itself.


Bl00dy hell, if England has to feed itself, we'd all starve. †UK imports more than 40% of the total food consumed. †We spend close to £20bn on food imports. † It is†envisaged†that in 20 years time that without†significant†increases in yield that Britain will face †food shortages as those countries that export will have less to export due to their own†indigenous†demands. †


Arrgee, you're right that we rely heavily on food imports.† however, I read that we would only have to use 20% of UK arable†land†for vegan crops to feed our entire uk population self sufficiently.† presumably this should leave enough land if we were to eat animal produce too, to do†this with.††

there's also this:† In 1975, the Scottish ecologist Kenneth Mellanby wrote a short book called Can Britain Feed Itself? His answer was yes, if we eat less meat. The way in which he worked it out was simple, almost a back of the envelope job, but it provides a useful template for making similar calculations. In this article I have adapted and embellished Mellanbys basic diet to show how much land modern UK agriculture might require to produce the food we need under six different agricultural regimes chemical, organic and permacultural, each with or without livestock.

http://www.thelandmagazine.org.uk/articles/can-britain-feed-itself



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Jules wrote:

Joan of arc style posting going on here. He's involved in the One campaign. That's also about changing policy in the long term.


thank for your posts Jules in Joanofarc style lolol

its good to hear about his campaigns for longer term change

I have to say how saddend I am by the hateful remarks by some people on fb :(

and I certainly don't desire any political thought that doesn't start from the heart



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† In 1975, the Scottish ecologist Kenneth Mellanby wrote a short book called Can Britain Feed Itself? His answer was yes, if we eat less meat...†


†But that was about 40 years ago. †The population is bigger and there is less land available for growing crops. †People barely cook properly these days living on processed food. I am sure that if everyone ate mung beans we could, but by then the economy would have totally collapsed which seems to be hope of this site if you read the other pages. I don't know about you and Mr. Away with the Fairies, who wrote the article but i ain't fcuking living in a yurt eating rice and weeds.



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ArrGee you don't need to live in a yurt

But talking of madness:

livinginamadhouse.wordpress.com/2011/02/20/could-britain-be-self-sufficient-in-food/



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No 1 in 69 countries including the UK.


†Been thinking about this. Appreciate it was a few weeks ago now and sales will have dropped off (no idea what recent†CD issue sales are but suspect it's a tiny fraction of the initial downloads) but it's set me wondering about the role radio has to play in all this.

Do radio stations have a responsibility to reflect public trend, or do they reserve the right to influence it?

The reason I say that is in the month since release†I've not heard Capital Radio play the track once. Admittedly it's one station only†(maybe not indicative??) and I'm not listening all day, but surely a station playlist includes songs throughout day, and in the breakfast period I've yet to hear it.

If a song is taken to number one by the purchasing public, isn't controversial or offensive, regardless of whether you like it or not it should surely be played, imho.

Over the years numerous tracks have defied the odds and current fashion to capture enough interest to sell in huge numbers and force their way to top of charts, and they've been played even though many people might ridicule them (all the novelty hits spring to mind). Seems like the balance of power has shifted to radio controllers nowadays, in other words 'if it ain't what we think you should be hearing we ain't promoting it'. †

I find that quite sad. I realise they are many 'alternative' stations and associated 'alternative' charts, but official charts are just packed with homogenous hand picked acts.

On the odd occasion a song that doesn't 'fit' shifts millions of units, surely the radio stations have ot concede the public like it, and include it in schedules.

Doubly sad for this song that it's not getting recognition, given what it stands for,†even if it's nowhere near the best Band Aid version, let alone best song.....

Are any stations playing this song regularly?



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Are any stations playing this song regularly?


†Yes, Radio 1!



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It's not been played on Absolute Radio and I've only heard the original version on my local Jack FM. If it's being played on Radio One it looks like there is a target audience of the under 25s? Is that the case or is that the other stations just aren't behind it?

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Well I am slightly over 25 ...


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Ha, yes but you obviously enjoy listening to young people's radio. Probably in the minority .

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Well it's all relative - I just have such a boring, mundane job/life/existence that it's only alleviated by inflicting pain on myself, and I'm not brave enough to stick pins in my eyes! And also just too lazy to tune into a different station. But if it gets too bad - even for me - then I have the satisfaction of showing that I can take control of a situation, and then I switch it off! On the plus side I do get to hear the Band Aid 30 song ...

But yes, I guess I am in the minority, just one of a kind you could say

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I long ago decamped to Radio 2 where the song has been getting lots of airplay.†



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At least the BBC are behind the song. That covers a wide audience on 1 and 2. .

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That's good to hear. Just makes it all the more shameful for the station(s) that seem to think they have the right to choose, especially when any defence is shredded by fact they play rest of top 10 incessantly.

Just snobbery really!



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