Demastering The Boomtown Rats

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Demastering The Boomtown Rats

Mark L · Loudmouth

Can't think of anything you've missed. How long did all that take?!

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
Can't think of anything you've missed. How long did all that take?!

I had a couple of weeks off over yule, so whilst I was ripping my CDs to my new NAS drive I started tinkering and once I started, I didn't stop. Still only on The Clash. Rest of C-Z to do. B is a bit involved with The Beatles, Blur, Bowie and The Rats. Though Elvis Costello will be weighty.

Derek The Dane · V Deep

The "new"version of She´s So Modern,will you put that on ATFTT or ITLG?.What about the double version of Charmed Lives which has A Storm Breaks + b side?,thats all I think is missing.

jamieuka · House on Fire

I expected you to say:

Mondo Bongo

Got the Another Piece of Red mix from the CD, made it go wobbly, speeded it up, decided it was now overly long and shorted it to 0.00.

suss · In the Long Grass

Derek The Dane wrote:
The "new"version of She´s So Modern,will you put that on ATFTT or ITLG?.What about the double version of Charmed Lives which has A Storm Breaks + b side?,thats all I think is missing.

Not sure if it qualifies for the demastering but if it does it first came to my notice somewhere btween these 2 albums, via Modern Rockers compilation which according to link was 1982

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Various-Modern-Rockers-Warwick-Records/dp/B00A399UB8

Maybe it's best aligned to V Deep?

Think we may have discussed this elsewhere but can't recall if it was ever established when it was recorded? My guess is much nearer '78 but it just got discarded. Can't see any reason to re-record it later myself.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

suss wrote:
Derek The Dane wrote:
The "new"version of She´s So Modern,will you put that on ATFTT or ITLG?.What about the double version of Charmed Lives which has A Storm Breaks + b side?,thats all I think is missing.

Not sure if it qualifies for the demastering but if it does it first came to my notice somewhere btween these 2 albums, via Modern Rockers compilation which according to link was 1982
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Various-Modern-Rockers-Warwick-Records/dp/B00A399UB8
Maybe it's best aligned to V Deep?
Think we may have discussed this elsewhere but can't recall if it was ever established when it was recorded? My guess is much nearer '78 but it just got discarded. Can't see any reason to re-record it later myself.

I will put it on In The Long Grass as it was released with the Drag Me Down special single.

It could have been re-recorded as part of something like the Dudgeon sessions circa 1979. The person who made those available did mention there were other tracks recorded before the forum he contacted me via disappeared.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

jamieuka wrote:
I expected you to say:
Mondo Bongo
Got the Another Piece of Red mix from the CD, made it go wobbly, speeded it up, decided it was now overly long and shorted it to 0.00.

That's an good idea, but I suppose it does have to be there for completeness. However, the live version is getting ditched, and still deliberating about other live single tracks. Barefootin and Lazun Gemmun will stay, but Rat Trap in Stoke and Nothing Happened in Cardiff don't seem worthy of inclusion likewise the I Can Make It If You Can off the Best of. Also I'm wondering if I should have the 1978 Peel Sessions to go along with the 1977 Session; as I decided to add the Peel session tracks off the Crazy single. Sadly I don't have the latter on the NAS disc, so burning will have to wait a week.

Mark L · Loudmouth

I've been trying to find a way to listen to Lazun Gemmum. I've never heard it and don't know what it's about. The problem is lots of links are dead or moved. Thought I'd found it on Dead Billy's Pile of Vinyl (you get about, Arrgee, don't you?!) but nowt.

Any help please gratefully received.

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Say Hi to Mick

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Derek The Dane wrote:
The "new"version of She´s So Modern,will you put that on ATFTT or ITLG?.What about the double version of Charmed Lives which has A Storm Breaks + b side?,thats all I think is missing.

Say hi to mick, of the Hold of me 12ins single It's cold out here and this is home and you know there snow everywhere I go

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
I've been trying to find a way to listen to Lazun Gemmum. I've never heard it and don't know what it's about. The problem is lots of links are dead or moved. Thought I'd found it on Dead Billy's Pile of Vinyl (you get about, Arrgee, don't you?!) but nowt.
Any help please gratefully received.

I will dig it out for you. Watch this space.

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Mark L wrote:
I've been trying to find a way to listen to Lazun Gemmum. I've never heard it and don't know what it's about. The problem is lots of links are dead or moved. Thought I'd found it on Dead Billy's Pile of Vinyl (you get about, Arrgee, don't you?!) but nowt.
Any help please gratefully received.

It's on the 12ins Dave singleClose as you'll ever be is a great live tack. Banana goes on just a wee bit too long (For my liking any way)

Mark L · Loudmouth

Thanks MATT for the photo.

So is it a concert venue at which basically CAYEB and Banana were recorded?

The question that remains to be asked is ' What is exactly is Lazun Gemmun? '

jamieuka · House on Fire

I've always considered the 'Rat Tracks' EP to be canonical. I think the idea behind it was to give the North American market the tracks that were on the UK version of Mondo Bongo but were omitted from the US version. Therefore, I would personally include Nothing Happened Today (live (Cardiff)), even though I have about as much love for it as you do for Another Piece of Crud!

suss · In the Long Grass

Mark L wrote:
The question that remains to be asked is ' What is exactly is Lazun Gemmun? '

May be wrong but I've always just thought it's an introduction ahead of live music..i.e. "Ladies and Gentlemen".....

I'm 99% sure that's what it's meant to be.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Mark L wrote:
Thanks MATT for the photo.
So is it a concert venue at which basically CAYEB and Banana were recorded?
The question that remains to be asked is ' What is exactly is Lazun Gemmun? '

I think 'lazum gemmen' is a southern USA drawl meaing 'ladies and gentlemen'. I think it was the way the announcer used to introduce Elvis when he played Las Vagas ie' lazum gemmen the king of rock and roll Elvis Presley.......'

Previously I though it was some sort of German or Dutch recording 'cos it sounds a bit like either of those languages, at least in print form.

Also when Geldof was on XFM in the nineties he occasionally had on an Elvis impersonator, who was actually from Northern Ireland, so maybe the lazem gemmen thing was Bob's sense of humour.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Re ArrGee's speeded up version of Joey, I once had an cheap record player that was inclined to play a bit too fast. The cure was a 10p or 5p piece placed on the vinly to slow things down to the way the should be. Of course the coin would invariably slip off the record. Could I have been the only one with that brilliant idea? smile

I think the live version of Make It on the greatest hits cd is very good, Geldof's voice just fills the song with emotion.

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Mark L wrote:
Thanks MATT for the photo.
So is it a concert venue at which basically CAYEB and Banana were recorded?
The question that remains to be asked is ' What is exactly is Lazun Gemmun? '

Do know what the name stand for. The recordings done in Cardiff. This might help regarding the name

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

This is the full version of Close as you'll ever be, and I must say think it's better that the album one

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

suss wrote:
Mark L wrote:
The question that remains to be asked is ' What is exactly is Lazun Gemmun? '
May be wrong but I've always just thought it's an introduction ahead of live music..i.e. "Ladies and Gentlemen".....
I'm 99% sure that's what it's meant to be.

Yep - that's it.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

jamieuka wrote:
I've always considered the 'Rat Tracks' EP to be canonical. I think the idea behind it was to give the North American market the tracks that were on the UK version of Mondo Bongo but were omitted from the US version. Therefore, I would personally include Nothing Happened Today (live (Cardiff)), even though I have about as much love for it as you do for Another Piece of Crud!

I suppose, but no way am I including the Another Piece of Red live version!

Trouble with sessions and live versions is where to stop. Barefootin' has to be in, but the others are a matter of opinion. I reckon the Self Aid songs (#1 and Joey; and Someone's Looking if i ever get hold of it) given it was their final performance in the last century would be more worthy, though they were only ever on compilations.

Mark L · Loudmouth

Another great photo MATT, thanks for uploading and to all others who also clarified. Amazing after 37 years, there are still Ratisms to be learnt about. I can't have been the only one who saw the LG words and filed them away under 'look into when time permits'

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Mark L wrote:
Another great photo MATT, thanks for uploading and to all others who also clarified. Amazing after 37 years, there are still Ratisms to be learnt about. I can't have been the only one who saw the LG words and filed them away under 'look into when time permits'

Here,here. Love the live track of this song (Close as you'll ever be) You have all got me digging out all the rats singles now just dusting them down and ready for a wee beer and a blast from the past on the old record player