New album?

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

New album?

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Jules wrote:
who knows if there is any truth in this:

http://www.thesun.ie/irishsol/homepage/showbiz/6674859/The-Boomtown-Rats-are-recording-a-new-album.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-IrishSunOnline-_-20151005-_-SunIEWorldNews-_-248928115-_-Imageandlink

According to the Irish Sun they are recording a new album. Believe what you read or not?

it's hardly the sort of story you would just make up if it were not true! I generally consider myself somewhat cynical if life but something tells me the Rats are good enough to surprise a lot of people. If it comes off the album will receive a lot more attention than any Geldof sole effort would merit, so the stakes are high so Bob and the rest will be a lot more thoughtful and careful in the songs they select.

It's more likely to include more input from all the members and not just Geldof. I can only wish them well and welcome the Rats take on modern life. If nothing else it will be intriguing and brave rather than playing safe and just doing the same old routine.

anyway when it come out we'll all call it honestly as we normally do. That's part of the fun.

Mark L · Loudmouth

It seems to have a ring of authenticity with Gary directly quoted. Only time will tell but who would have thought a few years ago that the Rats 7th studio album may well surface.

Derek The Dane · V Deep

I remember reading somewhere that Gary said they were recording but no idea if it would be an ep or album.I will buy 20 copies if they release a new album.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

I can't find any other reports of it anywhere. Hope it is correct and will look forward to hearing what it sounds like. I won't be buying 20 copies

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manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Happy days Might be on sale for the 6th dec??

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

That would be good.

Mark L · Loudmouth

I think it will be next year before any release. Can't find any other report either. Maybe an 'exclusive' to the Irish press in this the 40th anniversary of their inception?

Tango · In the Long Grass

Read this, went to the bookshop round the corner from the hotel and unexpectedly came back with a copy of Surfacing on vinyl. It's a sign!

Well maybe not, but whether they make something great or terrible I'll be glad to see them give it a go.

Mike menzies · V Deep

Oh I hope what more can I say iwill definitely be buying it. Things can only get better ( no more hard times) forgive the pun great news if it's right

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Assuming it is happening, i wonder if they will do any of the tracks live.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Mark L wrote:
I think it will be next year before any release. Can't find any other report either. Maybe an 'exclusive' to the Irish press in this the 40th anniversary of their inception?

I'd go along with a sometime in the new year release as well Mark. I remember reading Garry saying that it was easier to trade riffs and song ideas online with the others rather than having to meet in person. So I hope it happens, but there is no rush. Quality is more important than anything and I can't really see songs like on the recent ep being good enough. Again this album will be scrutinized by the press more than any Geldof solo effort so I think the Rats and Geldof will come up with something to seal their legacy. They won't just haphazardly throw something together. At least I hope not. smile

Obviously Ken Sweeney knows enough about the Rats to bring up the JK Rowling and Courtney Love 'infatuation'. I doubt though that a new Boomtown Rats album is really going to make the news. More likely Sweeney had Garry's phone number and that's how the news got out.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Jules wrote:
Assuming it is happening, i wonder if they will do any of the tracks live.

It would be nice to hear one or two new tracks, maybe at Cork or Dublin.There's a certain magic in hearing a new song live for the first time. We're all music fans and 'big enough' to handle new songs. smile

Mark L · Loudmouth

http://irishpost.co.uk/the-boomtown-rats-are-recording-their-first-album-in-30-years/

The Irish Post confirm plans in 'full swing' for a new album.

Wonder what they think the 12th British top 40 hit was though? They must be counting the 1994 chart high of 38 for Mondays?

RTE also confirm same.

-- Edited by Mark L on Wednesday 14th of October 2015 02:08:51 AM

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Mark L wrote:
http://irishpost.co.uk/the-boomtown-rats-are-recording-their-first-album-in-30-years/
The Irish Post confirm plans in 'full swing' for a new album.
Wonder what they think the 12th British top 40 hit was though? They must be counting the 1994 chart high of 38 for Mondays?
RTE also confirm same.

-- Edited by Mark L on Wednesday 14th of October 2015 02:08:51 AM

Both stories are just lifted from the Irish Sun with the Post adding plans are in 'full swing. Funny that the Rats have never recorded an album in Ireland. Also if the rumours are true I wonder who they will get to produce it? Would a big name producer be likely to up the game as it were. Maybe someone like Bob Clearmountain or Tony Visconti?

It's been 'thirty years of hurt...' for Rats fans, not just England fans. smile

-- Edited by noelindublin on Wednesday 14th of October 2015 01:12:18 PM

Mike menzies · V Deep

Hope it's not long. Just playing back to boomtown compilation to get an appetite for what has got be the best news in years imagine a new rats album. I don't care how it sound. I can't wait

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mike menzies wrote:
Hope it's not long.

Me too. If it is anything like the Ratsh1t ep then a 5 minute LP would be enough.

Mark L · Loudmouth

I think it will be better than that. The 4 tracks were quickly created for the compilation and the Back to Boomtown track itself is really quite good.

Imagine how much better the new album will be not up against the clock.

We have much to look forward to in 2016. Who would have thought we would be posting like this just a few years ago?

Mike menzies · V Deep

When itlg came out it was rumoured that they had written over30 new songs. Whatever happened to the other 20 will they rehash these.
? Just a thought,!

Mark L · Loudmouth

Maybe!

It's possible 'Don't feel like doin' it' will finally be recorded!

As long as they don't think all that was wrong with Charmed Lives was the title and we also get 'Hairspray 2016' or something disbelief

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Let's hope they are not all entitled Rat something or something Rat!!

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mike menzies wrote:
When itlg came out it was rumoured that they had written over30 new songs. Whatever happened to the other 20 will they rehash these.

I suspect the other 20 were Deep in the Heart of Nowhere.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
I think it will be better than that. The 4 tracks were quickly created for the compilation and the Back to Boomtown track itself is really quite good.
Imagine how much better the new album will be not up against the clock.
We have much to look forward to in 2016. Who would have thought we would be posting like this just a few years ago?

Back to Boomtown is an OK self pastiche (I accept the oxymoron). I think if the Rats will have a sound it will be more along the lines of the eponymous song. If they took the approach of some more experimental songs off the last two Geldof solo albums, namely six-pack, scream in vain, $6,000,000 loser etc. then the album may be half decent.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
Mark L wrote:
I think it will be better than that. The 4 tracks were quickly created for the compilation and the Back to Boomtown track itself is really quite good.
Imagine how much better the new album will be not up against the clock.
We have much to look forward to in 2016. Who would have thought we would be posting like this just a few years ago?
Back to Boomtown is an OK self pastiche (I accept the oxymoron). I think if the Rats will have a sound it will be more along the lines of the eponymous song. If they took the approach of some more experimental songs off the last two Geldof solo albums, namely six-pack, scream in vain, $6,000,000 loser etc. then the album may be half decent.

I think The Boomtown Rats was the only good thing about the ep. The rest was dismal tosh, the worst three songs they have ever recorded and that includes Charmed Lives. Geldof wrote the eponymous song just to whip the crowd up, that's why the chorus just sounds like a rather mundane football chant, but overall the song sort of works, while for me the rest are just awful, but Back To Boomtown does try, even though it's miles off a proper meaty Rats toon.

I agree with you about the potential if Geldof comes up with songs along the lines you mention.I would include Blowfish in that too, which to me sounds like The Boomtown Rats hooking up with Captain Beefheart, no bad thing. More please.

Working on the theory that Geldof generally does not do things half halfheartedly and if he and the band put in as much effort in the studio as they do on stage we may remain hopeful of something worthwhile and interesting.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
Mike menzies wrote:
When itlg came out it was rumoured that they had written over30 new songs. Whatever happened to the other 20 will they rehash these.
I suspect the other 20 were Deep in the Heart of Nowhere.

I think Dig A Ditch and Talk Me Up were most likely Rats songs. They just have that feel and the lyrics are almost pure Rats especially Dig A Ditch.

Hotel 75 sounds very like the Rats too, except for a little Cajun inflection on the sound, though this is from the Veggies era Geldof. Again superb lyrics and unfortunate that these b sides are largely lost and examples of a la Rats of putting great songs on b sides. The good songs are there for Geldof but sometimes you just have to go looking for them. The songs I mention are of the more robust, dynamic rodent era Geldof instead of the sub Dylan/Cohen latter day incarnation.

Mark L · Loudmouth

Agree Hotel 75 is superb, great lyrics, strong fast song reminds me of Elephant's Graveyard or Real Different, sense of urgency and dynamism about it.

diffbrook · House on Fire

Squeeze came back with a new album after 17 years and that is simply outstanding. They put a lot of thought and time into making it sound good.

If the Rats and Geldof in particular can apply the same sort of application then it could be a good un. I thought they applied themselves really well for ITLG and the efforts were there to hear. The same again and who knows.

What I would say is that the music on the Squeeze album is simply squeeze....they haven't strayed too far from the formula that works. I hope Geldof tries to keep what made the Rats successful. Their sound for 2013 on the EP simply didn't work.

Mike menzies · V Deep

Am I the only one who thought ratlife ep was good? If they did an album like this I would be happy I have listened to some other artists crap and the rats are heaps better than a lot of albums out there

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

diffbrook wrote:
Squeeze came back with a new album after 17 years and that is simply outstanding.

I will reserve judgement until I hear it properly, so it may invalidate what I write next.

I have yet to hear a decent "comeback" album. Some bands manage to have the odd decent song (Blondie's Maria comes to mind, as does Bowie's Where Are We Now), but on the whole the albums are either lack lustre self pastiches or half hearted attempts at modernisation. In a single ep the Rats have managed to tick both these boxes.

Now what I would like the Rats to do is what I would call a game changer album. A great example of this is Johnny Cash's American Recordings with Rick Rubin. Prior to that I just thought of Cash as much like Kenny Rogers, Dolly Parton, Tammy Winette et al. But those albums changed my opinion of him as an artist and I have since discovered he had made the odd decent record in the past. It would be nice if the Rats could find something as dramatic to return with.

http://www.toptenz.net/10-most-successful-comeback-albums.php

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mike menzies wrote:
Am I the only one who thought ratlife ep was good?

I thought it was the worst thing they ever made. I thought it was a joke at first when I saw the song titles all had Rat and Boomtown in them, but it turned out to be too real. It may be better than other cr@p out there, but all that makes it is better cr@p (if there is such a thing).

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

IT was mediocre. I've heard a lot worse, but this is the Rats. They are capable of so much more. I'm excited to hear what they might come up with.

Mike menzies · V Deep

Worse than charmed lives & man at the top ? My heart sunk when charmed lives was released ( and considering their quality b sides. Man at he top is horrendous the new
Songs are better than that)

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mike menzies wrote:
Worse than charmed lives & man at the top ?

Yes. Worse than Another Piece of Red. Ratlife, Ratified and the eponymous song are the worst three songs from the Rats. Back To Boomtown is acceptable but far from brilliant.

Mike menzies · V Deep

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that but let's not get away from the fact that at their worst the rats are better than a lot of big names out there

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Mike menzies wrote:
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that but let's not get away from the fact that at their worst the rats are better than a lot of big names out there

Cabsolutely agree with the last bit. biggrin

diffbrook · House on Fire

Have to agree with this. Also, I agree with your comments about come bacl albums, but squeezes is very good - check it out Argee

Clearly, the Rats are capable of so much better than ratlife. Possibly it was a rush job to get something on the greatest hits album - to kind of separate it from their other greatest hits. The fact that the songs had so many references to rats maybe gives the game away.

I wouldn't expect another Rats Trap or I don't like Mondays, but some good rnb is well within their capabilities.

Mike menzies wrote:
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that but let's not get away from the fact that at their worst the rats are better than a lot of big names out there

Mark L · Loudmouth

Mike menzies wrote:
Worse than charmed lives & man at the top ? My heart sunk when charmed lives was released ( and considering their quality b sides. Man at he top is horrendous the new
Songs are better than that)

Mine did too, when there was Up All Night, He Watches and Skin, any one of which would have followed Fire into the top 30. But Man at the Top - can't go along with 'horrendous'. Not a bad b side at all in my opinion.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mike menzies wrote:
...the fact that at their worst the rats are better than a lot of big names out there

I'd say that was an opinion rather than a fact.

Who? Why are big names relevant? All that matters is whether the songs are good or not, and the Ratsh!t ep has three total stinkers.

At their best, The Rats are as good as and better than pretty much every band I can think of (the reason I come here!), but there are some average and poor tracks in amongst it all. The Rats aren't unusual in having a few stinkers. The Beatles have plenty of cr@p from O-bloody-o-blooda to Yellow Submarine to Why Don't We Do It in The Road to Revolution 9. I could easily pull together a double LP of Beatles garbage.

Derek The Dane · V Deep

Every band makes crap songs.But the good thing about music is that we can all relate to songs in a different way.I like the Ratlife EP,better than half the stuff on V Deep or Mondo Bongo.

Lisa · Mondo Bongo

For me, the early songs appealed due to the characters, with well written lyrics which expressed their story, and of course the energy and passion in the music. Not much to ask really is it?

But seriously, what hooks me is the people in the stories. Same with films I guess - I have to be able to empathise with the characters, rather than just "special effects" with no substance. Never have got to the end of watching Lord of the Rings - but I must admit have enjoyed a few nice naps (en)during it!!

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Derek The Dane wrote:
Every band makes crap songs.But the good thing about music is that we can all relate to songs in a different way.I like the Ratlife EP,better than half the stuff on V Deep or Mondo Bongo.

Every band makes crap songs- That's a very good point Derek. If it were easy to make good or brilliant music then everyone would be a musical genious.

Most great bands fall from grace one way or the other. Generally the first ten years will be their creative peak, and from then on it's downhill, with very few exceptions.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Lisa wrote:
Never have got to the end of watching Lord of the Rings - but I must admit have enjoyed a few nice naps (en)during it!!

The Hobbit is the cure for insomnia. I have tried so many time to watch the three films but it's impossible. Might have been a decent film if they edited all three down to an hour and a half.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
Derek The Dane wrote:
Every band makes crap songs.But the good thing about music is that we can all relate to songs in a different way.I like the Ratlife EP,better than half the stuff on V Deep or Mondo Bongo.
Every band makes crap songs- That's a very good point Derek. If it were easy to make good or brilliant music then everyone would be a musical genious.
Most great bands fall from grace one way or the other. Generally the first ten years will be their creative peak, and from then on it's downhill, with very few exceptions.

Pulp are a bit of an exception. They got most of, if not all of their cr@p songs out in their first decade or so. In fact, their good songs from 1981-1990 are few and far between. After that they did find musical perfection for about ten years. Bowie, Bolan and Slade have some real duffers pre-1970.

I take the point. In my opinion, the only bands that haven't made cr@p songs are those who weren't around long enough to! Teardrop Explodes have two great albums, and the Rotten fronted Pistols have one, likewise Royal Blood. I don't think neither Franz Ferdinand nor Arctic Monkeys have done anything that wasn't brilliant in the last ten years, though I accept not everyone around here agrees! Aside from them, there is no other act that I like who could claim to not have recorded a few duffers.

Mike menzies · V Deep

Do you think they'll release it on cd as well as mp3( even limited edition vinyl.?.?) I hope so to keep my collection. Up ( I'm an anorak with albums) As I'm not a download fan ( I think it cheapens music and loses the charm ) Lets hope2016 is a good year for rats fans

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

I also prefer to have a CD. Hope it will be on cd.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mike menzies wrote:
Do you think they'll release it on cd as well as mp3( even limited edition vinyl.?.?) I hope so to keep my collection. Up ( I'm an anorak with albums) As I'm not a download fan ( I think it cheapens music and loses the charm ) Lets hope2016 is a good year for rats fans

CD and MP3 definitely. Vinyl maybe like they did with the Ratsh!t ep. Signed and sealed for £30 at the gigs. Suss can do his Richard Branston(sic) mail order sales to those who can't make it.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

If they do record a new album there is a good chance that they might test run one or two new songs on Thursday in Cork. Or Geldof might actually confirm that the are going into the studio.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
If they do record a new album there is a good chance that they might test run one or two new songs on Thursday in Cork. Or Geldof might actually confirm that the are going into the studio.

I don't think there is any chance of that at all. As it is part of a bigger event, expect the expected, i.e. singles from #1 to Banana, along with Eva Braun, Do You In, Neon Heart and the eponymous song. If you are lucky you might get Close as You'll Ever Be, Joey or Howard Hughes. If you are unlucky When The Wife Comes or Having My Picture Taken

If they are going to do something a little unexpected then it's more likely to be in Dublin. Even then I don't think they would throw the curve ball of a brand new song. Even with the eponymous song, they tentatively used it as the intro before unleashing its full horror at the Isle of Wight festival!

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
If they do record a new album there is a good chance that they might test run one or two new songs on Thursday in Cork. Or Geldof might actually confirm that the are going into the studio.
I don't think there is any chance of that at all. As it is part of a bigger event, expect the expected, i.e. singles from #1 to Banana, along with Eva Braun, Do You In, Neon Heart and the eponymous song. If you are lucky you might get Close as You'll Ever Be, Joey or Howard Hughes. If you are unlucky When The Wife Comes or Having My Picture Taken
If they are going to do something a little unexpected then it's more likely to be in Dublin. Even then I don't think they would throw the curve ball of a brand new song. Even with the eponymous song, they tentatively used it as the intro before unleashing its full horror at the Isle of Wight festival!

I think you're wrong. I would be a little surprised if the don't do one or two new songs, but that's supposing that they are really going to do a new album. I didn't know you're not too keen on When The Night Comes.

I think it's unlikely that Geldof would be seriously working on new songs and not even mention it to the audience. A lot of the audience are likely to have been at the Marquee.

Anyway if the do new songs they will have to start playing them at some stage, so why not now. I would just like to get a flavour of the sound of a potential new album. Baby steps and all that. Yes most of the songs should be tried and trusted classics and choice album tracks but after 35 years I long for something fresh. To be honest I often wonder do bands get tired of playing the same old songs over and over. Not just the Rats, all bands?

Anyway the old Wayne's World slogan 'Were not worthy' always applies when seeing the Rats in action. smile

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

I think I would expect them to play any new songs at Dublin, to make the show a little different. It's supposed to be special and we can only guess it what ways that might be.

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Any names for the new album?? The Boomtown Rats mark 2?? If they are playing all the older stuff I am sure that might have some Kick into the way the album is going to sound??

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

manatthetop wrote:
Any names for the new album?? The Boomtown Rats mark 2?? If they are playing all the older stuff I am sure that might have some Kick into the way the album is going to sound??

Bound for Glory

How about this?

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You heard it here first.

(to be honest I ain't got a fcuking clue, but that works for me)

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

That's a good one mate

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Good title for a new album

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ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Cover could show a ferry leaving Dun Laoghaire rather than train tracks, the band with instruments in hand stood looking back towards the mainland...

blue sky, single white cloud

Though I have seen something similar...

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Oh and a tiger on boat of course.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

ArrGee wrote:
Cover could show a ferry leaving Dun Laoghaire rather than train tracks, the band with instruments in hand stood looking back towards the mainland...
blue sky, single white cloud
Though I have seen something similar...

Oh and a tiger on boat of course.

Not sure the Rats quite pull off that you wouldn't want your daughter to bring one home look.

This is a moody as they get!

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ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

A Joey homage (in more ways than one). Again, not sure the Rats could pull something similar off.

Maybe rather than putting these up in here, I should just put up a "bands who look dangerous on their LP cover" thread.

-- Edited by ArrGee on Saturday 24th of October 2015 01:41:43 PM

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Another Monochrome classic...

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Mark L · Loudmouth

That might work....after all Geldof said he reformed the band for Cash and curiosity.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
That might work....after all Geldof said he reformed the band for Cash and curiosity.

Are they fans? Singer seems to have the Geldof circa Mondo beret.

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Cr@p monochrome cover in this case. Probably too wet for anyone's daughter.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Actually Geldof said "Age, Cash and curiosity..."

which makes sense...

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tick tock

Mark L · Loudmouth

That's it! The new album could be called Cash Age and Curiosity.

Or is that an open goal for some to label the new Rats album cac?

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
That's it! The new album could be called Cash Age and Curiosity.
Or is that an open goal for some to label the new Rats album cac?

Well the last one was called BACK TO BOOMTOWN : CLASSICRATSH!TS, so why not?

Mike menzies · V Deep

They could do a besides compilation & call it close as you'll ever b

Mark L · Loudmouth

Mike menzies wrote:
They could do a besides compilation & call it close as you'll ever b

Excellent smile

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Maybe the first album should have been called Bound For Glory, but hadn't they achieved 'glory' between 1977-85.It's a bit late for being bound for glory now. The train has already left. smile

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
Mark L wrote:
That might work....after all Geldof said he reformed the band for Cash and curiosity.
Are they fans? Singer seems to have the Geldof circa Mondo beret.

Cr@p monochrome cover in this case. Probably too wet for anyone's daughter.

How about Curiosity Killed The Rats? smile

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
Maybe the first album should have been called Bound For Glory, but hadn't they achieved 'glory' between 1977-85.It's a bit late for being bound for glory now. The train has already left.

Depends on how you define bound. It could be interpreted as on the way to glory. Or united together to achieve glory. Or certain to achieve glory. Or a big jump for glory. Or ready for glory. Or tied up for glory, if that's your thing!

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
How about Curiosity Killed The Rats?

More like Curiosity Resurrected the Rats, but that's not really working for me.

Neither is We're Only In It For The Money (and the fact we are getting old and a bit curious about how it will all pan out)

Any album title without Boomtown or Rat will be fine.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Maybe "Got Rich, Got Famous, Got Laid, now give us your fcuking Money!"

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

ArrGee wrote:

Maybe "Got Rich, Got Famous, Got Laid, now give us your fcuking Money!"

You know that last line Geldof never did say that??

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

manatthetop wrote:
ArrGee wrote:

Maybe "Got Rich, Got Famous, Got Laid, now give us your fcuking Money!"

You know that last line Geldof never did say that??

Yes. I know. I have seen I am Bob.

Derek The Dane · V Deep

Did anyone here anything when they were in Dublin?.Someone must have asked the question about any new songs.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Not a word.

Mark L · Loudmouth

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zRICl3Se9rY

In this German TV interview recorded a few days ago, as far as a new album is concerned, hope has not yet bitten the dust. At about 1 min 25, although there is an interpreter irritatingly (for me as a Brit!) drowning much of his words out, Bob speaks of a new album next year. Well this year would be a bit of a push....!

The concert footage is from Vienna and there is much sycophancy about playing in Germany, plus all the usual stuff about the songs could have been written today, cash and curiosity may have killed the cat, but revived the rat etc etc

-- Edited by Mark L on Monday 12th of December 2016 01:56:31 PM

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Everything crossed!

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Mark L wrote:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zRICl3Se9rY
In this German TV interview recorded a few days ago, as far as a new album is concerned, hope has not yet bitten the dust. At about 1 min 25, although there is an interpreter irritatingly (for me as a Brit!) drowning much of his words out, Bob speaks of a new album next year. Well this year would be a bit of a push....!
The concert footage is from Vienna and there is much sycophancy about playing in Germany, plus all the usual stuff about the songs could have been written today, cash and curiosity may have killed the cat, but revived the rat etc etc

-- Edited by Mark L on Monday 12th of December 2016 01:56:31 PM

Bob says 'yeah I think we'll do an album next year...' then continues with the usual proviso 'that's if anyone is interested' which Bob always seems to doubt.

Well he does say that when he gets into Bobby Boomtown mode then things get done so there is still hope. Not really sure what the next move is apart from a new Rats album.The Stones new album is old r and b songs and has topped the album charts so why not take a leaf out of their book and do something similar though with original songs as well?Just get back to that basic sound-it's not that complicated. smile

Yes the German translation is rather loudly dubbed, but it is a German tv programme after all.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
Not really sure what the next move is ...

More festival dates. I doubt there will be a new LP. It would take a lot of effort with little reward. Maybe they could do what Chrissie Hynde did with Dan Auerbach which may broaden the appeal a bit, but given the last effort yielded a pretty poor outcome, might be best to not make any more new recordings.

Mark L · Loudmouth

I think there will be a new album. Why confirm it again in a TV interview? There is obviously just no rush and other things keep cropping up. There's not the same impetus as the late 70s but he's still writing so I see no reason. The cash thing is ludicrous, seeing how it could be funded on about a couple of week's interest and this fear of grinding pensioner poverty.....why does he insult our intelligence with such nonsense? He could see out his old age on Park Lane, never mind a park bench.

Even the impending High Court case is unlikely to trouble him. Is that still looming?

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
Not really sure what the next move is ...
More festival dates. I doubt there will be a new LP. It would take a lot of effort with little reward. Maybe they could do what Chrissie Hynde did with Dan Auerbach which may broaden the appeal a bit, but given the last effort yielded a pretty poor outcome, might be best to not make any more new recordings.

Well Geldof, both solo and with the Rats, puts in a lot of effort. All that traveling and onstage effort is hardly the work of a slacker.I've seen them enough times to be pretty certain about this.Never mind Geldof's extra musical activities which again shown full on commitment whether one agrees with him or not.

The reward is having done ones best and put out something one can be proud of. Getting some good reviews too would help. The band are unlikely to make much on a new album, I admit, but at their stage it's hardly the most important thing. I'd imagine they have done pretty well out of the last number of years, with all those well attended gigs. Most art is produced to satisfy the artist first and foremost.

I still think a new album is more likely than not. Geldof says that he cannot just write songs for the sake of it, they have to come to him. That's why Joey or Rat Trap is more personal and important to him than a more 'contrived' song like She's So Modern which he admits he wrote to have a hit single. His last solo album was way better than the Rats 4 track ep and that's another example of songs not being rushed, and songs coming from the heart rather than the head.

I'm generally pretty cynical about lots of things but not about the possibility of the Rats making a decent new album.It's just a musical hunch I have.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Mark L wrote:
I think there will be a new album. Why confirm it again in a TV interview? There is obviously just no rush and other things keep cropping up. There's not the same impetus as the late 70s but he's still writing so I see no reason. The cash thing is ludicrous, seeing how it could be funded on about a couple of week's interest and this fear of grinding pensioner poverty.....why does he insult our intelligence with such nonsense? He could see out his old age on Park Lane, never mind a park bench.
Even the impending High Court case is unlikely to trouble him. Is that still looming?

I only listened to the snippet which you highlighted about the new album.It was hard to make out with the German dubbing.

Totally agree about their being no impetus or rush.Wonder does being a multi millionaire take away the urgency to write songs? Geldof doesn't need the money, and has a small fan base compared to many other well known singers/songwriters.The Boomtown Rats moniker would certainly glean some media attention if there were to be a new album. Might just be done in 'Bob time',when the right mood prevails.

I always like the Prefab Sprout album Swoon and Paddy McAloon says the title was an acronym for 'songs written out of necessity'.I think Geldof's songs seem to be written out of necessity too,though to some internal personal time frame and agenda.

Mark L · Loudmouth

noelindublin wrote:
Mark L wrote:
I think there will be a new album. Why confirm it again in a TV interview? There is obviously just no rush and other things keep cropping up. There's not the same impetus as the late 70s but he's still writing so I see no reason. The cash thing is ludicrous, seeing how it could be funded on about a couple of week's interest and this fear of grinding pensioner poverty.....why does he insult our intelligence with such nonsense? He could see out his old age on Park Lane, never mind a park bench.
Even the impending High Court case is unlikely to trouble him. Is that still looming?
I only listened to the snippet which you highlighted about the new album.It was hard to make out with the German dubbing.
Totally agree about their being no impetus or rush.Wonder does being a multi millionaire take away the urgency to write songs? Geldof doesn't need the money, and has a small fan base compared to many other well known singers/songwriters.The Boomtown Rats moniker would certainly glean some media attention if there were to be a new album. Might just be done in 'Bob time',when the right mood prevails.
I always like the Prefab Sprout album Swoon and Paddy McAloon says the title was an acronym for 'songs written out of necessity'.I think Geldof's songs seem to be written out of necessity too,though to some internal personal time frame and agenda.

I agree with you Noel. However, I have at the back of my mind the tendency for Mystic ArrGee to call it right on so many things, as is well documented on here. Hope he's totally wrong with every respect smile

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
I agree with you Noel. However, I have at the back of my mind the tendency for Mystic ArrGee to call it right on so many things, as is well documented on here. Hope he's totally wrong with every respect

Maybe, but I did say there was zero chance of the Rats ever re-forming with Geldof and Briquette after the Bradbury Rats Blackheath Hall gig. And a month or so later...

Mark L · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
Mark L wrote:
I agree with you Noel. However, I have at the back of my mind the tendency for Mystic ArrGee to call it right on so many things, as is well documented on here. Hope he's totally wrong with every respect
Maybe, but I did say there was zero chance of the Rats ever re-forming with Geldof and Briquette after the Bradbury Rats Blackheath Hall gig. And a month or so later...

Indeed, which is why I said on so many things rather than everything ! Otherwise you'd be inundated with PMs for the lottery numbers each week smile

Derek The Dane · V Deep

I listened to a Garry Roberts interview on itunes and he said they were recording over the winter months and he was writing his first song which he wanted to sound like AC/DC.I have a gut feeling we will see a new album hence the dates in March.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Derek The Dane wrote:
I listened to a Garry Roberts interview on itunes and he said they were recording over the winter months and he was writing his first song which he wanted to sound like AC/DC.I have a gut feeling we will see a new album hence the dates in March.

Great news Derek. Straight from one of the Rats so it has credibility. Must look up this interview. smile

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Derek The Dane wrote:
I listened to a Garry Roberts interview on itunes and he said they were recording over the winter months and he was writing his first song which he wanted to sound like AC/DC.I have a gut feeling we will see a new album hence the dates in March.

Do you have the link or a way of finding the interview?

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

How recent is this interview?

Derek The Dane · V Deep

I have itunes danish version so it might be different from the uk version(no ratlife ep on mine).Also I noticed that it has now gone from itunes list.It was recorded in Ireland just after the Leopardstown gig.