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I'm a big Rats fan- I've seen them 7 times in their reformed lineup. And think them to be the most special live band in the world.
I understand that people have claimed 'Rat Trap' sounds like Springsteen- but really it sounds like something unique to me.
I appreciate the Rats have to play all the hits 'She's so Modern' etc.
With regards to other tracks- it seems a shame that some of the long form songs which are really unique to the Rats and other acts can't match are not included in the set any longer.
'Joey' and 'When The Night Comes' - along with 'Rat Trap' and 'Someone's Looking At You' are the types of song no other bands have and elevate them in my eyes.
Whereas numbers like 'Close As You'll Ever Be' are enjoyable but not big hits and are less unique (there are songs by other artists which are similar- whereas the long form songs are special to the Rats).
I think live they do a very good mix of early album tracks and the big hits. I love the raw feel of the album tracks particularly of the debut album. By playing these tracks they are really going back to their musical roots -ie rhythem and blues, the dr Feelgood, Stones influence. Geldof doesn't shy away from musical influences, more he wears them on his sleeve, yet the Rats still sound pretty unique.
There are just so many good tracks off all six albums they are really spoiled for choice. Time constraints usually mean the set us compromised a lot of the time. By seeing them so often I have got to hear a few of the lesser played tracks live eg Elephants Graveyard, When The Night Comes.
Totally agree that the Rats are brilliant live- that's why I bother with them more than any other band. There are lots of posts about the setlist lurking around in this message board. Basically you cannot please everyone with a live gig, and that must go for most bands. In a nutshell it's a privilage to see them live, so when I listen to rare b sides or album tracks I can think to myself 'these are the guys who wrote and played these fabulous songs'.
Welcome to forum. Always good to hear another view.
I can't really add to Noel's great response other than to say they've covered all of first album bar one track (I can make it if you can) live since reunion, so it's clear they see that as their strength and raison d'etre. Would like to have heard more Tonic tracks thrown into mix personally, either at expense of first album non singles or elongated versions (well documented on here) but as mentioned there are four more albums with what some would consider gems but not all so can never please everyone.
Problem is they no doubt feel some obligation to play all the early singles (to appease the masses) and festivals are time constrained. Headline gigs must be draining with the amount they put into it, so Springsteen style sets (as in length) are not an option really.
Tend to agree though that some of the 'epic' tracks could still feature if other songs weren't three times length of studio versions.
Which gigs did you catch out of interest? Much variation?
Thank you everyone- it's great to find a group of Rats fans. I've been to Isle of Wight. Bournemouth. The Roundhouse, Wychwood Festival, Portsmouth Pyramid Centre, London The Forum, Wellowfest.
So far I've seen the regular set of all the hits plus a few more.
Of the ones which vary- I've seen 'Having My Picture Taken', 'Never Bite The Hands That Feed' and 'Me And Howard Hughes'.
I'd love to see 'Elephant's Graveyard' and 'Kicks' - which I heard they'd play elsewhere.
Elephant's Graveyard did feature in the gigs just after reunion and IOW such as Cork and the early 2013 tour venues - can't remember when it got dropped exactly but hasn't been resurrected.
Kicks got one airing, at one of the two same day Butlins gigs, as an encore. Guess they decided it either wasn't right or wasn't rehearsed enough. Who knows?
I guess they have covered more than we care to remember since 2013, but because set is so 'settled' now it feels like there's less effort. I just always put it down to tried and trusted popular songs that they can squeeze in. Would be great if the occasional gig ran to more than 75 minutes to allow some surprises but seems unlikely.
Re: surprises, the one off covers make a refreshing change i.e. White Light White Heat @ Bristol in tribute to Lou Reed and then 'In Crowd' at Hurtwood pre-Brexit vote, as did Strypes joining for a couple @ Dublin.
Seems as though new material is definitely being written, so provided it gets recorded and rehearsed I guess there's a chance they'll trial some in gigs, and if there's enough for an album then a tour makes sense. Let's face it there won't be much radio airtime. Can easily see the influence of BG landing them slots on the late night chats or the One Show to promote new material though. Ultimately the quality of it will decide whether people are energised enough to buy tickets.
I can't imagine they'd be thinking of a tour for 2016 at this late stage. Could be wrong though. Would expect 2017 with album might be more likely. Hopeful, as ever.