Is London Still Punk? - debate

JoanOfArc · The Fine Art of Surfacing

Is London Still Punk? - debate

JoanOfArc · The Fine Art of Surfacing

i was just avin a chat on the punk debate's event on facebook, with myself really. and it got me to thinking. (I do sometimes find that typing out my thoughts to myself on social media makes me think more deeply - that is provided I get away with chatting to myself on there without some numbskull joining in talking a complete load of ****) and so it's this

there have been certain waves of types of music and trends and descriptions to go with them.

Like punk - aggressive, angry, passionate, energetic, raw, pogoing in the mosh pit etc. etc.
Rock - macho, erm..... motorbikes, head banging, sex drugs and rock n roll....
Hippies - love, peace, harmony, unity,
mods - dunno much about mods, parka's, mopeds, getting into scraps, intense

oh I dunno, so anyway...

a movement ideally would probably encompass all of it, no?

I mean if you wanted to fight for justice. then you would need a bit of aggression and fight spurred on by anger at injustices. but you would need to be from a loving place, believe in peace and unity to come together to make things happen.

but as more happens in this society, everyone turns on eachother instead of nurturing all these things together in a movement for justice and peace.

we all fight eachother instead of looking for ways to bring us together.

the ideal political party to me, would look at all the common denominators. the things that all can believe in.

you would set out a list of all the things most people unless mentally deranged, could believe in. and you would build on this.

not focus on things set to divide everyone. then we're all agreeing. we're all FOR something TOGETHER. instead of all this anti this and that anti people thing.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

JoanOfArc wrote:
Is London Still Punk?

No. It never was. Punk is a mainly suburban thing.

Strummer, Weller, Siouxsie, Sid, Shane McGowan, Stranglers, David Vanian, yada yada yada all from out of town. Only "punks" in London would be rich kids slumming it with Daddy paying for their central London pied a terre. I never knew (nor saw) many punks in Hackney and Islington in the 1970s, even at the end of the decade. People may have liked the music but they weren't necessarily part of the movement. From what I remember there were more mods and skinheads than punks.

Arsen01 · Lookin' After Number 1

London, the capital of England and the United Kingdom, is a 21st-century city with history stretching back to Roman times. At its centre stand the imposing Houses of Parliament, the iconic Big Ben clock tower and Westminster Abbey, site of British monarch coronations. Across the Thames River, the London Eye observation wheel provides panoramic views of the South Bank cultural complex, and the entire city.

Derek The Dane · V Deep

Is London Still Punk.My answer is NO.Punk was more than music it was a way of life.Glad that I witnised all the different music in my younger days but it´s over and not coming back in the near future.Kids today almost don´t dare to be different on a mass scale and hence why music is so blad and boring today.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Derek The Dane wrote:
Glad that I witnised all the different music in my younger days but it´s over and not coming back in the near future.

It all seems to keep coming back. I was out a month ago and there were a lot of old punks in the pub. When I came out I saw The Professionals (sans Steve Jones) were playing at The Highbury Garage. Hard to think of many acts that aren't out there playing. More chance of me seeing performers I liked in the late 70s/early 80s now than there ever was. The Vapors are another example.

Death seems to be the only thing that stops it returning. Even then, that's not as certain as you would expect...

https://www.graceland.com/events/calendar/eventdetails.aspx?id=70

https://www.ticketline.co.uk/event/unavailable/13325137/elvis-in-concert-live-on-screen-london-the-o2-2017-11-30-19-30-00