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Is it just me, or was this compilation a true best of? The new version twenty years on looks insipid by comparison. Maybe a few tracks could be swapped out, but on the whole, I would rather have this on vinyl.
I would remove When the Night Comes, Never in a Million Years along with Diamond Smiles adding He Watches It All, Go Man Go, Up All Night and Me & Howard Hughes to make it a 20 track all killer no filler double LP. Nothing since 1986 truly worthy of inclusion.
I would remove When the Night Comes, Never in a Million Years along with Diamond Smiles adding He Watches It All, Go Man Go, Up All Night and Me & Howard Hughes to make it a 20 track all killer no filler double LP. Nothing since 1986 truly worthy of inclusion.
Million Years not there to be removed, but I get you... and largely agree with your suggestions and observations, except for Diamond Smiles. I guess I line up with Noel of this parish on Million Years and Diamond Smiles.
Back to Boomtown would have been a better bet than that awful The Boomtown Rats! techno tosh.
I would remove When the Night Comes, Never in a Million Years along with Diamond Smiles adding He Watches It All, Go Man Go, Up All Night and Me & Howard Hughes to make it a 20 track all killer no filler double LP. Nothing since 1986 truly worthy of inclusion.
I think Monster Monkeys is superb and the newer version of Passing Through(starts with the piano) are the stand out songs from the COB album.I am glad that Monster Monkeys made the best off but not K.I.S.S or The Boomtown Rats(which is good live).
-- Edited by Derek The Dane on Sunday 22nd of December 2024 07:59:31 AM
I would remove When the Night Comes, Never in a Million Years along with Diamond Smiles adding He Watches It All, Go Man Go, Up All Night and Me & Howard Hughes to make it a 20 track all killer no filler double LP. Nothing since 1986 truly worthy of inclusion.
Million Years not there to be removed...
Track #14
Apologies, I was somewhat in the mindset of next year's release. All understood now.
I think Monster Monkeys is superb and the newer version of Passing Through(starts with the piano) are the stand out songs from the COB album.I am glad that Monster Monkeys made the best off but not K.I.S.S or The Boomtown Rats(which is good live).
Passing Through is the only post-1986 song which would not be out of place on a best of. Had that been included, I could understand it.
I think Monster Monkeys is superb and the newer version of Passing Through(starts with the piano) are the stand out songs from the COB album.I am glad that Monster Monkeys made the best off but not K.I.S.S or The Boomtown Rats(which is good live).
Passing Through is the only post-1986 song which would not be out of place on a best of. Had that been included, I could understand it.
What about There's No Tomorrow Like Today? I'd take that and Back to Boomtown over other post-86 songs.
I think Monster Monkeys is superb and the newer version of Passing Through(starts with the piano) are the stand out songs from the COB album.I am glad that Monster Monkeys made the best off but not K.I.S.S or The Boomtown Rats(which is good live).
Passing Through is the only post-1986 song which would not be out of place on a best of. Had that been included, I could understand it.
What about There's No Tomorrow Like Today? I'd take that and Back to Boomtown over other post-86 songs.
Can't say I care for either. Tracks 2-6 on Citizens LP are all better than some tracks on the previous three or four LPs, but Passing Through aside, not in my top 50. B-sides like Born To Burn, So Strange, It's All The Rage and Late Last Night are better. Hell, Late Last Night is better than the A side.
I think Monster Monkeys is superb and the newer version of Passing Through(starts with the piano) are the stand out songs from the COB album.I am glad that Monster Monkeys made the best off but not K.I.S.S or The Boomtown Rats(which is good live).
Passing Through is the only post-1986 song which would not be out of place on a best of. Had that been included, I could understand it.
What about There's No Tomorrow Like Today? I'd take that and Back to Boomtown over other post-86 songs.
Can't say I care for either. Tracks 2-6 on Citizens LP are all better than some tracks on the previous three or four LPs, but Passing Through aside, not in my top 50. B-sides like Born To Burn, So Strange, It's All The Rage and Late Last Night are better. Hell, Late Last Night is better than the A side.
Those are all very good b sides, but Real Different takes the prize. Probably why I like No Tomorrow, I think they have similar hooks and gallop along with lyrics tripping over themselves throughout.
Late last night is good but I can't agree it's better than Diamond Smiles. Has there also ever been a better lyric than 'Everybody tries, it's Dale Carnegie gone wild' or 'The girl in the cake, jumped out too soon by mistake, somebody said the whole thing's half baked'? 13 was too low a position for what is for most a crowd pleaser at the end of a Rats gig but for others is a chance to avoid a busy exit?
I think Monster Monkeys is superb and the newer version of Passing Through(starts with the piano) are the stand out songs from the COB album.I am glad that Monster Monkeys made the best off but not K.I.S.S or The Boomtown Rats(which is good live).
Passing Through is the only post-1986 song which would not be out of place on a best of. Had that been included, I could understand it.
What about There's No Tomorrow Like Today? I'd take that and Back to Boomtown over other post-86 songs.
Can't say I care for either. Tracks 2-6 on Citizens LP are all better than some tracks on the previous three or four LPs, but Passing Through aside, not in my top 50. B-sides like Born To Burn, So Strange, It's All The Rage and Late Last Night are better. Hell, Late Last Night is better than the A side.
Those are all very good b sides, but Real Different takes the prize. Probably why I like No Tomorrow, I think they have similar hooks and gallop along with lyrics tripping over themselves throughout.
Late last night is good but I can't agree it's better than Diamond Smiles. Has there also ever been a better lyric than 'Everybody tries, it's Dale Carnegie gone wild' or 'The girl in the cake, jumped out too soon by mistake, somebody said the whole thing's half baked'? 13 was too low a position for what is for most a crowd pleaser at the end of a Rats gig but for others is a chance to avoid a busy exit?
I remember hearing Late Last Night live at Rainbow and thinking it would be the next single after Rat Trap. It pre-dated Mondays (as did It's All The Rage). It was even recorded with Gus Dudgeon with Joey re-recording and original Mondays. It was surprising it wasn't on Surfacing as it is better than most of it but I suppose it was more of a continuation of Tonic for the Troops. Diamond Smiles is a convoluted follow up to Mondays that wasn't good on any level. Had Someone's Looking been the second single, it would probably have made #1. Someone's Looking is probably more relevant in 2024 than it was in 1979/1980.
I've always taken the view that Someone's Looking At You should have been the follow up to Mondays. If it could get to 4 as the third single, there's every chance it'd have gone to the top as second single from Surfacing. Not sure why the single edit was made. Would the album version have fared better as an unaltered single? It sounds more complete, builds and ends better.
Luckily for some, there's only one version of Diamond Smiles to have to contend with!
Not sure why the single edit was made. Would the album version have fared better as an unaltered single? It sounds more complete, builds and ends better.
Probably down to BBC Radio One. Clockwork had an abridged middle eight, the reprise in Mondays is not there on the single (which makes it better). At least, the radio edit didn't rip out a whole meaningful final verse as was the case with Common People by Pulp. It would be good if the new compilation had the original single mixes, but I suspect it won't.
