Ideas for promoting new album

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Ideas for promoting new album

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
any genius methods of promoting BG' s new album...

yes, two.

i) Get a track on a high profile advertisement
ii) Do a duet with Lily Allen

noelindublin wrote:

real "trick" is gaining new fans or else reconnecting with older Rats fans (wonder where they all went? )

I don't think there are too many older fans of the Rats who care much anymore. I gave up after Vegetarians of Love and that was about 20 years ago. Last two albums I picked up in bargain bins. I'm just here for the nostalgia. Ain't too many acts I would buy new albums from, only Franz Ferdinand and The Arctic Monkeys. And if I can't be bothered to buy a Jarvis C0cker solo effort, there's no chance of me getting Geldof's either.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

I don't like the advert idea, it always ruins songs for me.

The internet is the way to go, downloading, streaming, promoting on FB and Myspace, Youbloom (well who's heard of it wink

) etc. TV appearances and performances if he can.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:

I don't think there are too many older fans of the Rats who care much anymore. I gave up after Vegetarians of Love and that was about 20 years ago. Last two albums I picked up in bargain bins. I'm just here for the nostalgia. Ain't too many acts I would buy new albums from, only Franz Ferdinand and The Arctic Monkeys. And if I can't be bothered to buy a Jarvis C0cker solo effort, there's no chance of me getting Geldof's either.

So Jarvis and Bob have let you down- life is cruel- incidentally the cost of the new Geldof album is the same as a few pints of bitter or guinness so be generous with your emotions and yer money. I have a particular maybe fanatical liking for the Boomtown Rats and generally I find all Geldof's solo albums have six or seven good/ decent songs but thats just me. PS Empire Of The Sun's album Walking On A Dream is the most consistently good album i've heard for a while. I'm nostalgic for seventies football- bring back those muddy Derby County pitches.

Derek The Dane · V Deep

I am in for 70`s football comeback.£2 to get in,stand where you like,no knob of a steward telling you to quiet down,no players earning £70,000 a week so he can go shag a slag,no players rolling around like they have been shot,no managers moaning at refs,no shrimp eating fickle fans,bloody hell why do I still go to football.
As for Bob I do not know.He is releasing a new album but deep down we all know that he really does not care.The homepage is still not updated(only 4 weeks to the album/single release) and I have not seen any promo cds on the net.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Hi Derek- anybody on this site is either mad or beyond redemption!. One good thing about music and all art is its ability to surprise so maybe like SAD the songs dont't need shouting from the rooftops and Bob is happier for a more" take it or leave it" approach. He's not Rod Stewart on ITV playing tired old standards we've all heard a million times as in his recent ITV outing. Geldof always writes original songs so he's not "lazy" in just churning out ersatz pap .

PS Your right about seventies football - good analysis- and I just love the fashions and the snow (love watching old games in snow! They used to say about the hard as nails Liverpool Tommy Smith he wasn't born he was quarried!

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Jules wrote:

I don't like the advert idea, it always ruins songs for me.

The internet is the way to go, downloading, streaming, promoting on FB and Myspace, Youbloom (well who's heard of it ) etc. TV appearances and performances if he can.

HI JULES- Don't think Geldof would use a song on a tv ad or I doubt he's hip enough to carry that off if asked seeing that most advertising seems to be aimed at teenagers- another sign of ageing is when you start noticing this, as with the police!

Basically anyone interested enough will find the album one way or another - the internet is the first port of call nowadays for almost any information- a lot of media promotion is just very random like authors turning up to promote books on radio stations at 10. 30 on a Tuesday morning- not very scientific- and its the same with a lot of music.

Joke · The Dutch One

Hey, I have this great, new, brilliant idea for promoting anything!
It's called "the Internet" and I'm told everyone can make their own website and put their stuff on it! And then about 3 billion people know about it!
Think about the potential: promoting your new CD, selling tickets for your gigs... It's a revolution!

(Sorry, I'm being a bit cynical now, as you will understand I hope)

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:

ArrGee wrote:
I don't think there are too many older fans of the Rats who care much anymore. I gave up after Vegetarians of Love and that was about 20 years ago. Last two albums I picked up in bargain bins. I'm just here for the nostalgia. Ain't too many acts I would buy new albums from, only Franz Ferdinand and The Arctic Monkeys. And if I can't be bothered to buy a Jarvis C0cker solo effort, there's no chance of me getting Geldof's either.

So Jarvis and Bob have let you down- life is cruel- incidentally the cost of the new Geldof album is the same as a few pints of bitter or guinness so be generous with your emotions and yer money. I have a particular maybe fanatical liking for the Boomtown Rats and generally I find all Geldof's solo albums have six or seven good/ decent songs but thats just me.

I wouldn't say either has let me down, it's just I don't like their solo material very much. I'd rather have a few pints than buy their records. This is especially true in the case of Geldof, he doesn't need my money/emotions. I made my emotional investment in my teens, and have got my interest. I can't even think of six good solo songs from Geldof, only three would be better than Another Piece of Red, and that's saying something!

-- Edited by ArrGee on Monday 6th of September 2010 09:32:55 PM

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Here's an idea. Something like this....

http://consequenceofsound.net/2010/08/31/download-free-live-radiohead-dvd/

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:

ArrGee wrote:

I wouldn't say either has let me down, it's just I don't like their solo material very much. I'd rather have a few pints than buy their records. This is especially true in the case of Geldof, he doesn't need my money/emotions. I made my emotional investment in my teens, and have got my interest. I can't even think of six good solo songs from Geldof, only three would be better than Another Piece of Red, and that's saying something!

-- Edited by ArrGee on Monday 6th of September 2010 09:32:55 PM

Hi - Geldof is a little like one of my other heroes Woody Allen and there are parallels in, putting it plainly they used to be good but have been on a steady decline for years but to me they still maintain my interest. The last maybe six or seven Woody Allen films have been poor compaired to his golden years 1967 to maybe 1995. IF I go to see a WA movie its because some part of me still cares ( cue violins) and its the same with Bob. Odds are we'll all be reading your insight into the Geldof lp whether you find it in a bargain bin or not- resistence is futile!

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Joke wrote:

Hey, I have this great, new, brilliant idea for promoting anything!
It's called "the Internet" and I'm told everyone can make their own website and put their stuff on it! And then about 3 billion people know about it!
Think about the potential: promoting your new CD, selling tickets for your gigs... It's a revolution!

(Sorry, I'm being a bit cynical now, as you will understand I hope)

JOKE - Hoe gaat het? I dont know if BG uses the internet as I think I remember reading somewhere that he was a bit of a liddite. Maybe theres something slightly endearing in someone who just doesnt give a f*** in a world of shameless self promotion and constant availability. Whatever happened to being slightly mysterious as in the old days of pop when there was a certain distance from "stars" and not constant overexposure? Like in the Super Furrys song The man Don't Give A F *** that might be Geldof. Tot zeins!

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:.

Hi - Geldof is a little like one of my other heroes Woody Allen and there are parallels in, putting it plainly they used to be good but have been on a steady decline for years but to me they still maintain my interest. The last maybe six or seven Woody Allen films have been poor compared to his golden years 1967 to maybe 1995. IF I go to see a WA movie its because some part of me still cares ( cue violins) and its the same with Bob. Odds are we'll all be reading your insight into the Geldof lp whether you find it in a bargain bin or not- resistance is futile!
I've really like Woody Allen's last two movies (Vicky Christina Barcelona and Whatever Works) Admittedly he hadn't done anything that good since Small Time Crooks (Match Point was OK), but he does make films very regularly and is always worth a viewing.
Yes, I'm sure I will get the Geldof LP (though I have resisted getting the Gerry Cott one so far), but I held out for a couple of years on SAD...

tinamcbain · Like Clockwork

Some fun ideas here ive got some important news to tell you .But just have to check check and double check you know what its like lol

Scottie · Loudmouth

Bob is appearing (talking I think) at the Royal Dublin Society music show, which runs from 1-2 October. It would make sense to launch the new album there maybe?

musicmania · A Hold of Me

Scottie wrote:

Bob is appearing (talking I think) at the Royal Dublin Society music show, which runs from 1-2 October. It would make sense to launch the new album there maybe?

Oh please let it be on the Saturday as I fly to Poland the Sunday morning! I was at the entire weekend last year and the seminars were excellent! Will be absolutely raging if Bob does the Sunday........... Actual dates of The Music Show are 2/3 October.

JoanOfArc · The Fine Art of Surfacing

LIly Allen???? LMAO Bollox to that! How crap,,, hmmmm on the other hand how hilarious that would be! nah dont think so.....actually i don't reckon bob would be up for it, I mean I expect he would like to go where he feels at least youngish and not grandad age LOL.....does he really want to get into the teeny bop market? do the teeny bops really want to get into him?

What he needs is to promote himself to an audience that are spending lots on music and goin gto lots of live gigs, I know just the publication in fact......hmmm mail me if you wanna know more ;0)

JoanOfArc · The Fine Art of Surfacing

(and of a slightly more mature age i would imagine, although perhaps i am assuming too much)

JoanOfArc · The Fine Art of Surfacing

ArrGee, 'on the DECLINE'?? Bob on the 'decline'? haha honestly there are some horrid terms in the music industry it would appear. Some other terms that spring to mind is 'washed up', how deeply does this resonate with 'former' stars??? - I wonder.

Cruel world it would seem in some ways.........hmmm he's not on the decline he is perfect.

JoanOfArc · The Fine Art of Surfacing

Hmmm he could try X-Factor

JoanOfArc · The Fine Art of Surfacing

Anyway how come i didnt even know bg had a new album out??????

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

JoanOfArc wrote:
ArrGee, 'on the DECLINE'?? Bob on the 'decline'?

I think that if you read back you will see that noelindublin wrote that not me. I don't think any of his solo material is that good. If anything, Sex Age & Death is better than his first solo album so he is improving. He just hasn't reached the standard of Mondo Bongo nor V Deep yet.

JoanOfArc · The Fine Art of Surfacing

Ooops sorry Arrgee yes it was not you that said that.

Derek The Dane · V Deep

For me all of Bobs solo work is better than V-Deep.Sex,Age and Death is in the top 4 of all the Rats/Geldof stuff.But music taste is wide and different so to each his own.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

JoanOfArc wrote:

Ooops sorry Arrgee yes it was not you that said that.

HI- I meant that Geldof's record sales and profile as a singer is down in terms of how people percieve him- he can hold his own in terms of making half decent records. I generally find that hyped critically rated albums by artists too numerous to mention tend to disappoint me so everybodys at it it seems. If Geldof has the wherewithal to follow up SAD with a few more albums then it might not come as a "surprise" and he would be perhaps seen as a musicain and not an after dinner speaker. The decline goes from a Rats/Veggies of Love highpoint to "secret songwriter" status- what modest Bob a secret songwriter? Anyway the lp is the price of a few pints so its exciting for the veterans and hopefully a tonic for the troops!

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Derek The Dane wrote:

For me all of Bobs solo work is better than V-Deep.Sex,Age and Death is in the top 4 of all the Rats/Geldof stuff.But music taste is wide and different so to each his own.

HI DEREK- its just so hard to explain ones feelings about music and even discussing a favourite artist/band will bring out diverging views. I would rate V Deep above all Geldofs solo stuff. I think the four solo albums so far would have made two pretty good albums. MY pet Geldof "hate" is those clunky political songs such as The Emergent Nationalist and Roads of Germany. If I wanted a polemic I'd study politics - these songs are worthy but dull as is most of The Happy Club- but I do like that albums title track and its na na nas! and My Hippy Angel . Maybe these two songs are my Geldof "guilty pleasures". Will you be in Copenhagen for the midnight opening of Tower Records for the new Geldof album with all these crazy fans queing 'round the block?

JoanOfArc · The Fine Art of Surfacing

Btw Bob's launch of new album has been put back to January 2011 apparently.

JoanOfArc · The Fine Art of Surfacing

I wonder why.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

JoanOfArc wrote:
I wonder why.

Probably not in the mood for it after the death of his father.

Derek The Dane · V Deep

I will go ferking mad if the album is delayed to January.What about the concerts in Belguim?.

Scottie · Loudmouth

There are a few of us here laid out a lot of money on transport, hotels and tickets for Belgium, so if they are off, tell us now and dont leave it till the last minute. It would be perfectly understandable if they everything has been delayed due to the death of his dad. But the sooner folk know, the more chance they have of getting most of the money back. Fingers crossed, they are still on. I think the best tribute Bob could make to his dad is to go ahead and sing Walking Back to Happiness with pride.
I dont like to admit it, but I am living on a pension now, cant afford to waste money.
SAD was delayed for a whole year, was it not?

-- Edited by Scottie on Tuesday 14th of September 2010 07:23:46 AM

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Hey how do we know it's been postponed again (not that I'm not expecting it to be) just I've not seen anything anywhere - am I missing something?

Laibach · Someone's Looking At You

Play.com are the only site I can find that have the release date 17th January, everywhere else it is still 4th October.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

If and I'm not sure, the album is postponed until January I can wait- it would be more disappointing if nothing had been recorded at all. Last January in Ireland was miserable ,with snow, so it might be a bit like in a Storm Breaks "ice cold/freezing cold" etc when we get to hear Geldof's opus.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
Last January in Ireland was miserable ,with snow...

Was truly horrible. I ended up at the Days in Park West snowed in for a week as I couldn't get to my normal hotel in O'Connell Street. However had I only had a Geldof album like Sex Age & Death for company, I think I'd have just read the fire notice. Not an album to cheer you up.

Derek The Dane · V Deep

Every place on the net I have looked at still has the 4th October as release date.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Scottie wrote:
There are a few of us here laid out a lot of money on transport, hotels and tickets for Belgium, so if they are off, tell us now and dont leave it till the last minute.

SAD was delayed for a whole year, was it not?

Once the audience was in the building. Jules can let you know all about it along with her 44 mates.

I don't think Sex, Age & Death was delayed. Not sure anyone knew it was coming out until it more or less arrived. I remember been shocked when it came out as a Geldof album was the last thing I expected.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:

noelindublin wrote:
Last January in Ireland was miserable ,with snow...
Was truly horrible. I ended up at the Days in Park West snowed in for a week as I couldn't get to my normal hotel in O'Connell Street. However had I only had a Geldof album like Sex Age & Death for company, I think I'd have just read the fire notice. Not an album to cheer you up.

The whole of Europe was in an icy grip or in other words proper winter weather but you could have had a cheap skiing holiday if you had gone to the Wicklow mountains nearby. Sex Age and Death actually sounds like a Woody Allen film title come to think of it. Geldof is a bit of a miserabilist in a lot of his music - how many happy songs are there really- thats an idea for a new post.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

ArrGee wrote:

Once the audience was in the building. Jules can let you know all about it along with her 44 mates.

If you are talking about Rome, we were alone (myself and my partner). We got the worst deal, 45 people turned up in Milan the night before and at least got to speak to the band even though it was cancelled when they got there. We didn't know as we were travelling and turned up, no band, no fans, just us some workers and a deserted stadium, a wasted pile of cash and no time to even see Rome. blankstare

JoanOfArc · The Fine Art of Surfacing

Ah if there is one thing we can be sure about in this life it is that we will suffer.