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Anyway, for those not in the know, The newest incarnation of the Rats (Crowe, Roberts, Geldof, Briquette, Beale and Dunn) played a full set at Hurtwood Park Polo Club last night.
They played
Eva Braun
Clockwork
Neon Heart
She's Gonna Do You In (with Geldof on harmonica)
Someone's Looking At You
Joey's On The Street Again
Mondays
She's So Modern
Having My Picture Taken
Banana Republic
Howard Hughes
When The Night Comes
Close As You'll Ever Be
Mary of the Fourth Form (interspersed with I Wanna Be Your Man and Boom Boom)
Looking After Number One
Rat Trap
And came back for an encore, playing
Elephant's Graveyard
Diamond Smiles
They were absolutely superb. Geldof sans guitar in a snake skin suit and looking like he was really enjoying it. The small stage meant little room to run around on, so Geldof did a bit of jogging on the spot and at the end Garry Roberts threw his guitar up in the air only to miss his catch and have it crash into Alan's keyboards. When The Night Comes sounded better than on record and hearing Howard Hughes for the first time in many a year was a highlight. The set was nice and tight with little rambling in the songs, and aside from Geldof's longish introduction to Banana Republic there wasn't too much talk between songs.
-- Edited by ArrGee on Monday 6th of May 2013 07:45:09 PM
I am sure he was suitably gutted, but he composed himself very well indeed.
Nice to catch up with a few people, sorry I didn't say bye properly to ArrGee, Derek and Kenny. Next time I will get to chat to Lisa more. We seem to have the briefest of exchanges. I hope you could see, Lisa. You were behind some tall people. Us little people MUST be at the front .
-- Edited by Jules on Sunday 5th of May 2013 12:27:29 PM
I have various photos. Some of which are completely cr@p others are bearable. They are slowly coming over wifi to my ipad now, so will post later. What about posting on FB? I've said to people not on the BG page, only personal pages.
The band were on top form and gelled well. One or two errors - Mondays intro was a little on and a false start on When The Night Comes. Bob was indeed having fun.
No stalker photos, we were a little slow on the uptake. Bob was outside signing some things and rushed off just as we walked through the door.
nice pics jules, glad you all had a great time, wish i had been there, i do hope Bob didnt miss me too much, would hate to think it ruined his evening xxx
Sorry about lots of post. Not deliberately trying to increase post numbers, my ipad insists all my images are called image.jpg and won't post more than one at a time.
So the Ratified set list will be the set list for the Rats? Perhaps there will be an odd tweak. IoW will be a reduced version. There 5 extra tracks they didn't do. I hope they might be played at Devon and Cork???
-- Edited by Jules on Sunday 5th of May 2013 07:34:16 PM
Brilliant night - gig was excellent, really good to see them together at last. Managed to see most of the second half close up when I eventually got to the front! Couldn't concentrate on the first 2 songs unfortunately as hubby's wedding ring flew off his finger when he stuck hands in air to clap! But managed to spot and retrieve it so then able to focus again on the gig
Good to meet some of you guys - and thanks for the loan of t-shirt to try on, Arrgee. Will get back to you re size/ordering/postage??
So a very good night - even the dj wasn't too bad (A fine selection of songs, Mr S )
ArrGee - many thanks for posting the videos. It was a superb gig.
It's funny with all these photos/videos, cos they were all taken from moreorless from where I was standing. I must be a magnet to people recording and photographing.
That said, and despite how annoying I find people recording stuff when they should be enjoying themselves, these photographs are superb, you must have been stood just in front of me with the SLR camera. You are forgiven
they all look a bit pissed off tbh, lol, i guess its being cool though innit, cant be smiling and giggling at the camera really i spose, would be a bit uncool.
LOL ah dear one day someone on this forum is going to rip the piss out of me and give me my just deserts.
they all look a bit pissed off tbh, lol, i guess its being cool though innit, cant be smiling and giggling at the camera really i spose, would be a bit uncool.
LOL ah dear one day someone on this forum is going to rip the piss out of me and give me my just deserts.
lol
They were enjoying themselves on stage. Doesn't show on those pictures, but they weren't acting like they were super super cool, they were having a ball.
Do you mean the vids on FB? Are you Alan Ivory? Superb shots Martyn. Alsy if you're the same person please look at your other messages on FB. We want them back!!!
-- Edited by Jules on Monday 6th of May 2013 10:26:12 AM
Re: "how annoying I find people recording stuff when they should be enjoying themselves"
It is possible to enjoy yourself at a gig while taking pictures and / or filming. People have been doing it for years in some form or another. How many people have still got old C90 casettes of old gigs that someone else has carefully recorded and copied (and copied)? Back in the day, going to Camden Market or record fairs to buy bootlegs was the only way to get a recording of the gig. Now with the digital cameras and smart phones and the immediate access to You Tube, Facebook and Twitter, it's possible to share moment immediately with others, while still enjoying the gig.
For the record, the three videos that have been posted on here were recorded by me and I had great time. I've uploaded then to You Tube so that others who weren't "in the know" about the gig, as well as those who were there can enjoy them for themselves.
I also took some pictures, they are not as good as the high quality ones posted on here, but hey they are still a good memory of a fantastic nigt that I enjoyed.
Now I've deleted some good vids on FB and not talked about it. OK I'm going for it and sharing my photos. Seems they want us talking about it. So let's have some Rat Chat.
Completely agree with you. It was one of my best ever gigs - thoroughly enjoyed it. To get a killer shot is an added benefit to me as a keen amateur photographer.
Many thanks for posting the videos.
Personally I do follow my own self imposed rules (ArrGee the guy you describe was behind me so please forgive him not me. ;o) )
I NEVER use flash - it focusses better and gets better results and flashes often piss off the crowd and the band
With SLRs I always use the viewfinder - again I find it focusses better but also I'm not waving around an LCD screen distracting people
I never wave my camera in the air hoping for a good shot
I only take pics for a bit during each song so I'm not pissing off anyone behind me - with burst setting you still end up with hundreds of photos.
You also need to know the artist I think - there are always good points in a Geldof set when you know he will be still and you should get a great shot. No point trying to photograph any artist who's boucing around the stage.
Don't bother with an iphone (especially with flash!) - David Bailey couldn't get a decent iphone concert pic. If you want a quick memory of a show record a segment and that will be better quality)
With the autofocussing of a decent SLR I find that a flat picture is always best (when all you are shooting is the same distance away eg artist side on) - on close zoom. (ie the mic is not in front of the singer (otherwise you often find it's the mic in sharp fiocus and not the artist)
Re: "how annoying I find people recording stuff when they should be enjoying themselves"
It is possible to enjoy yourself at a gig while taking pictures and / or filming.
Sure, enjoy yourself, but it annoys those stood behind. Even though it was only about five deep to where I was standing, there were three or four cameras in my eyeline more or less contantly up with lcd screens illuminated.
In recent years I have gone to the front of gigs so it doesn't look like the Christmas illuminations. Then I'm the annoying one jumping around in front of the stage Apologies to all those at Whelan's last December, but I had a few drinks on my way. That said, a lot of people did get talking to me afterwards, and seemed to be impressed by my enthusiasm!
Personally I do follow my own self imposed rules (ArrGee the guy you describe was behind me so please forgive him not me. ;o) )
I NEVER use flash - it focusses better and gets better results and flashes often piss off the crowd and the band
With SLRs I always use the viewfinder - again I find it focusses better but also I'm not waving around an LCD screen distracting people
I never wave my camera in the air hoping for a good shot
I only take pics for a bit during each song so I'm not pissing off anyone behind me - with burst setting you still end up with hundreds of photos.
You also need to know the artist I think - there are always good points in a Geldof set when you know he will be still and you should get a great shot. No point trying to photograph any artist who's boucing around the stage.
Thanks for the great advice regarding taking pictures with SLR. I've never been able to get brilliant pictures like the ones you've posted. Last time I took a SLR camera to a gig was Macca at Wembley in 1990 and it got confisgated. My SLR pictures always end up blurry, have never been able to master the correct settings!!
Jules,
Yes it is Alan Ivory, I'm not sure what messages you are refering to on FB? Just had a look on the BG page and couldn't see anything. I can repost them if you want? aAl I did was copy and paste the link from my You Tube account alanivory1.
Go to your private messages. On there, you will see Other Messages. As we are not friends on there, you don't get notified of personal messages from me. Please repost them. I had written explaining why I'd taken them down and then sent another saying please put them back, all is well!!
Best photo of the night is no.2 of the 4 attachments, for me anyway. Seems the Rats are back together and on pretty good form. The Rats banner is pretty impressive. The set list is what I'd expect but good to see The Elephant's Graveyard added as Geldof or the Simon and Garry version had not included it in their set.
I wonder how many people turned up for the gig, despite it being in an 'out of the way' part of Surrey? And was there any attention from the mainstream media or music press?
I'm guessing about 300 were there on Saturday. Kenney Jones was tweeting a couple of weeks ago that there were only 50 of the 300 tickets left. Having said that, I was told on Saturday night that 90 people on the guest list didn't turn up, which was not a lot of good for the 50 on the reserve list. It wasn't the sort of place that you could have gone to without the promise of a ticket, the security on the gate half a mile away saw to that.
I'm guessing about 300 were there on Saturday. Kenney Jones was tweeting a couple of weeks ago that there were only 50 of the 300 tickets left. Having said that, I was told on Saturday night that 90 people on the guest list didn't turn up, which was not a lot of good for the 50 on the reserve list. It wasn't the sort of place that you could have gone to without the promise of a ticket, the security on the gate half a mile away saw to that.
I presume the band invited some of their friends too, but with about 300 attending that's a good sign. I don't think a polo club in Surrey in the sort of place you would wish to be loitering, with or without intent, on a Saturday night, without a ticket! They're probably well practiced in spotting riff raff!
It's a pity if some people, as Jules says, could not get in.
Brilliant night,cannot put my finger on anything negative.The right size place for the first concert,good crowd and the Boomtown Rats were on form.Sorry if I stepped on any toes but I could not contain myself(Kerry was that you and your husband Ken and I were jumping and singing with?).Hope to see you all again and ArrGee thanks for the lift,we would never have got home other wise.
Kerry was that you and your husband Ken and I were jumping and singing with?).Hope to see you all again and ArrGee thanks for the lift,we would never have got home other wise.
BTW Kerry is a man But I supppose he could have a husband...
Excellent video footage - thanks for taking the trouble.
Can't really complain when Bob is urging people to get their cameras etc out ahead of Having My Picture Taken.
Also said to me that he for one wasn't too bothered about the 'secrecy' of the gig, after the event at least.
Just seen all the follow ups to my last comment, and realised how ambiguous it was. Wasn't Bob that said to me - it was his stance on cameras being used that spoke volumes. Should have used the phrase 'That also said to me....' Sorry! LOL .
Oh well, floodgates open now. No bad thing in my view. The main concern clearly was band not being billed for a public appearance. These are all shots/videos from a private party, so no harm done I say. Will hopefully reignite some more interest in upcoming gigs too.
As for guestlist and numbers, the full list on door numbered 481, but that included staff and a fair few (certainly of my numbers) who were on list initially but then dropped off before the night for various reasons. Their replacements were just added to list, without the originals being removed/amended.
I had 18 no shows out of 170 'promises'. If there were 90 in total as quoted elsewhere then venue had nearer 400 than 300. I'm not aware of anyone being denied a ticket, but may be wrong. Hope not.
Not a bad turnout really for somewhere unpublicised that you can't even see from a road and is also 5 miles from nearest station . Great night.
Oh well, floodgates open now. No bad thing in my view. The main concern clearly was band not being billed for a public appearance. These are all shots/videos from a private party, so no harm done I say. Will hopefully reignite some more interest in upcoming gigs too.
Not a bad turnout really for somewhere unpublicised that you can't even see from a road and is also 5 miles from nearest station . Great night.
A couple of things to add.
i) It was good that the audience wasn't just a load of old farts like myself and there were a few younger people there.
ii) Thanks to Mark for organising it and to Suss for letting a number of forum members attend this event. We are all very grateful and owe you a drink or two. I did try to inform as many known members as I could, and apologise if anyone missed out.
I was just tasked with putting the word out to fans as far as possible. Never written so many PMs and emails and texts and FB messages in my life. Weird thing was in some cases I had no idea if they lived nearer Sydney than Surrey . Good to make contact with a few more kindred spirits though - only regret is not properly meeting some on the night, e.g. Kerry and his husband .
Got one already - but perhaps you could pass thanks on to Mark for hosting the party as well as organising the exclusive t-shirts It was a great night!
-- Edited by Lisa on Thursday 9th of May 2013 07:42:34 AM
Re: "how annoying I find people recording stuff when they should be enjoying themselves"
It is possible to enjoy yourself at a gig while taking pictures and / or filming.
Sure, enjoy yourself, but it annoys those stood behind. Even though it was only about five deep to where I was standing, there were three or four cameras in my eyeline more or less contantly up with lcd screens illuminated.
Have to get my brother Kens photos,he has a great photo of the stage before the concert started.Will remember this gig as long as I am sane,what a great day.
Re: "how annoying I find people recording stuff when they should be enjoying themselves"
It is possible to enjoy yourself at a gig while taking pictures and / or filming.
Sure, enjoy yourself, but it annoys those stood behind. Even though it was only about five deep to where I was standing, there were three or four cameras in my eyeline more or less contantly up with lcd screens illuminated.
This reminded me of recent thread
It's true! Only thing omitted is that concerts have gotten quieter and audience members now shout so loudly at each other so you can't hear the music properly...
Just nicked this of my brothers computer and sadly the only photo I could get of the concert.This picture shows what the place looked like before the concert started.