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Starts next Thursday (8th) with the first show from 1980 (03/01/80) presented by Peter Powell.



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David Bowie,  Madness and the Pretenders star in the first show of 1980.

Pretenders were on WEA and I seem to recall a scandal around this time whereby Brass in Pocket's stuttered climb to the top was suspected of being less than bona fide. I'm sure WEA sales reps were thought to be up to something according to Panorama or similar. Anyone recall this? 



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Just saw this and it was a good episode. Huge 1980 logo in the studio and some decent acts. Brass in Pocket at 5. Still made it to number one with debut album following in a couple of weeks...



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No show this week, but an 80s special with Mark Radcliffe and a Blondie documentary on the making of Parallel Lines, plus a Glastonbury feature of them, take the place of the usual scattered weekend slots.



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Kid Jensen returns this coming Thursday with the Nolan Sisters, the Skids, Abba, Dollar, Joe Jackson, UFO, Sheila B and Legs & Co. BBC4 @ 7.30pm and 2 weekend repeats. The show is from 10/01/80. It is therefore only a short while before Mike Read introduces the Rats at 44 with SLAY and then Steve Wright introduces them at No.8. 



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next week not listed on bbc4 but hope they put the ones on with the rats  we live in hope



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They should do, Mike, as the presenters who introduced the Rats at 44 and later 8, have not been embroiled in any scandals unless you count Mike Read's foray into the UKIP calypso arena. 

Steve Wright introduces the Rats at 8, followed by the Nolan Sisters.



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Mark it must be ascandalif he introduces the nolans haha ha,!

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Too true! 



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Just watched totp thought joe Jackson was cool my second fave artist

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This particular Top Of The Pops episode was really very good. It demonstrated quite well (perhaps better than most weeks) the diverse sounds which were inhabiting the charts, in 79/80, all of which I enjoyed. It is rare for me viewing these Top Of The Pops repeats, to not feel inclined with certain acts to press the fast forward button on the remote, but aside from perhaps the choir part near the end of Abba's 'I Have A Dream', the temptation for me this week never came up. It nearly did with the Nolans but I couldn't stop watching two blokes who must now be 60 if they're a day,  dancing literally like nobody's watching.

Spacer and Dollar were quite lucky. Both songs had gone down before going back up and then being boosted by a TOTP outing.

Spacer (chart entry 24/11/79)

 

62-43-35-37-33-33-33-28-22-20-18-19-30-53 (14 week run)

Pink Floyd still at number one seems wearing now,  but then again the Pretenders are next and it feels like they've been around awhile already. 

 



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Really looking forward to seeing Someone's Looking At You (SLAY). Along with Looking After Number One (LANO), it's my favourite Rats song. I love the pace of both songs. SLAY changes pace from slow to fast, and love the lyrics too. LANO enjoys a fast pace throughout, and especially like the first verse. I remember seeing the song - SLAY - performed for the first time on the Kenny Everett video show.

Neither reached number one but both great songs.

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SLAY is a brilliant track Timbo. The TOTP performance sees 2 Bobs,  one curled up nervously overwhelmed with paranoia on a swivel office chair trying to free himself from the restrictions of black plastic wrapped tightly around him,  the other leaping around without self consciousness,  jumping off a grand piano and giving it all he's got. It all fits the song's theme well. 

The special recordings for TOTP and Everett's show were arguably better than the official video which was a grainy recording made at a Surfacing gig. Be interesting to know how they came about,  who approached who,  who paid for what etc etc. Everett's show had 3 one would imagine quite expensive sets for Rat Trap,  SLAY and Keep it Up. KIU was not even a single yet ITV used a special cable-suspended camera to record it's performance,  something rarely seen back in 1980 and the first time ITV Thames had used it.

 

 



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Looking After No 1 has already aired, as it was in the charts in 1977. I've not looked on YouTube, or have forgotten(!) but you will probably find their first appearance on TOTPS on there.

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Simon Bates this coming Thursday introduces Dexys Midnight Runners, the Pretenders, Sister Sledge and Sad Cafe amongst others. Nothing sad about the week after; Mike Read presents the Buggles, the Nolans, Matchbox, the Specials and returning to the TOTP studio for the first time since late '78, the Boomtown Rats.

The sad bit is that the Rats would only record 2 further performances for the show, although with videos and repeat performances, there's still around half a dozen show sightings left.

SLAY would get to 4 but falls away pretty quickly after that. Like Clockwork, which had a longer chart run, sold as well as many acts that got to number 3 that year, hanging around at position 6 for 3 weeks solid and receiving 3 TOTP outings and was the play out tune in the last show of July '78. It spent 3 months on the top 75.

Still, the SLAY performance is one of the better ones and the usual time of 7.30pm applies for this week's show (17.01.80) and the show on 05.02.15 (24.01.80) with the usual scattered weekend repeats. We're out of sequence for a while until the effects of Operation Yewtree and industrial action right things.

The Rats were due to appear on a special Christmas show 21.12.78 with DLT and Peter Powell presenting. Industrial action scuppered it. BBC was off air all day, with the strike called at 8am. Children who arrived at TV Centre for Blue Peter were sent home. It was to be an hour long and would also feature other number ones from 10cc and Donna and Althia, who were also absent from the actual Christmas Show that year (which presumably would have been Part 2, if Part 1 with DLT and Powell had gone ahead.

 



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Reminder for Top of the Pops tonight



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Mark L wrote:

Reminder for Top of the Pops tonight


 I normally just google a particular TOTP performance rather than watch the whole thing.TOTP is the proverbial curates egg, good in parts.



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Good show this week and over on Popscene, the Rats are currently the most popular act from the show after 64 votes:

http://z6.invisionfree.com/popscene/index.php?showtopic=13784

 



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TOTP is the proverbial curates egg, good in parts.

I didn't watch much of TOTP from 1975 or so due to extra-curricular activities.  When they started these re-runs I was quite excited to see what I had missed, but it didn't take long before I realised it was mostly garbage.  Rat Trap at number one was a real highlight.  Even artists I like including The Jam and Elvis Costello don't come across well.  Maybe The Clash were right all along.

 

 



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There was a lot of criticism of the Rats performance last night on Twitter. I have to say I couldn't see what they objected to and I asked myself what's a good TOTPs performance anyway? Miming and on a tiny stage... I don't know why the Rats would be any worse that any others. People obviously don't get the bad miming is deliberate. It's amazing really how much importance this programme held to audiences and performers alike, when you look back on it.

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We were still on 3 channels only in 1980 and this was by far the primary method of performers promoting themselves and their records visually and one of the few things we could watch each week geared to pop music. It's easy with everything we have now for the twitterasti to look back and scoff.



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Jules wrote:

There was a lot of criticism of the Rats performance last night on Twitter. I have to say I couldn't see what they objected to and I asked myself what's a good TOTPs performance anyway? Miming and on a tiny stage... I don't know why the Rats would be any worse that any others. People obviously don't get the bad miming is deliberate. It's amazing really how much importance this programme held to audiences and performers alike, when you look back on it.


 I was testing a new app I saw on the BBC news site yesterday. Basically it allows you to choose the angles for a bands YouTube performance, so you can cut between shots  as if you were the tv director.

You can test it out here......(hours of fun)

http://tekkie.co/news/newsdetails/item_85003/experimental-youtube-feature-lets-you-choose-from-multiple-camera-angles/



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Mark L wrote:

We were still on 3 channels only in 1980 and this was by far the primary method of performers promoting themselves and their records visually and one of the few things we could watch each week geared to pop music. It's easy with everything we have now for the twitterasti to look back and scoff.


I never understand people who tweet during events. Like the political debates or whatever. Surely you have to give something your full attention, and then comment later. All this instant comment on everything is beyond me.

Also I find the media just plays into twitter's hands by highlighting very trivial things the find on the Internet and making 'stories' about them. 5 Live has a 2 hour programme devoted to the Internet Top 30 i ie whatever nonsense it  making it big in the world of  social media.Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather listen to the shipping forecast.smile



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Jules do we give a flying ....

We all know that the Rats are the premier band, others can think what they like but



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It's just criticism for the sake of it, Daggerrat.

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If you watch any of the Rats songs on YouTube there are often loads of very good and articulate comments on the Rats music. I am very often surprised and gladdened when I read these comments. Generally the' likes' and favorable comments outnumber the negative ones.

 



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Couldnt agree more Jules i think that we all know and feel how good the band are , i tend to ignore unfortunately anybody elses feelings i can only presume that for instance that whoever may give a poor gig report was not actually at the gig.

I think that this was definately the case recently cant remenber the girls name but emma just out of nappies from the evening standard is close enough gave a really scathing report she just could not have been at the gig



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Yes agreed Noel but you still get the kids writing for whoever trying to make a name for themselves before they can wipe their own arse



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Dublin 2013 second show, one of the best gigs ever. Not just for the Rats but for any band. The Daily Mail gave an appalling write up. It was based on one photograph of Geldof and nothing else. They clearly weren't at the gig at all. If they were, they'd gone to the wrong venue .

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Not suprised Jules, this is the way that these guys operate kind of think dont believe what you read is rather apt 



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Most definitely. The review was totally unrecognisable compared to what I had actually witnessed.

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Jules wrote:

Most definitely. The review was totally unrecognisable compared to what I had actually witnessed.


 If the gigs were bad you would see people heading for an early exit. With the Rats they get at least 2 encores and could easily do a third one. There is usually a great comedown buzz after the gigs so the odd cub reporter who only knows about Olly Murs and Lady Gaga or whatever passes for music today clearly does not know much.

Even our old friend Russel Brand is not too aware of Geldofs legendary punk status, you would think he would know better.



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daggerrat wrote:

... whoever may give a poor gig report was not actually at the gig.

I think that this was definately the case recently cant remenber the girls name but emma just out of nappies from the evening standard is close enough gave a really scathing report she just could not have been at the gig


Interesting one.  I went to see Elvis Costello and the reviewer commented about his lackluster show which opened with I Hope You're Happy Now...

Thing is he opened with Accidents Will Happen.  Ooops!

Everyone gets bad reviews, but it is often more about the reviewer.  If I was a cub reporter and got sent to review, say Phil Collins, I would be incredibly scathing.  For most of the young reporters I can imagine that they may be mightily hacked off if their mate got to review Royal Blood at The Electric Ballroom whilst they were sent to cover The Rats at the Forum.  Even I was bit hacked off they both played nearby venues the same night.

The Rats, well Geldof, come with considerable baggage, so every review is going to have an angle.  What has been very encouraging is that so many people write that they put on a good show that is worthwhile seeing.



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 If the gigs were bad you would see people heading for an early exit. With the Rats they get at least 2 encores and could easily do a third one. 


I head for the exit when they start playing Diamond Smiles, especially knowing that only the techno eponymous song follows.  



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ArrGee wrote:
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... whoever may give a poor gig report was not actually at the gig.

I think that this was definately the case recently cant remenber the girls name but emma just out of nappies from the evening standard is close enough gave a really scathing report she just could not have been at the gig


Interesting one.  I went to see Elvis Costello and the reviewer commented about his lackluster show which opened with I Hope You're Happy Now...

Thing is he opened with Accidents Will Happen.  Ooops!


 Remember almost all the day after newspaper reports of Live 8 Edinburgh mentioned Geldof doing Mondays. He didn't, he did Rat Trap and Indifference.

Can't remember the last time I bothered with a live music review, it's so subjective, you're almost always going to get a slightly poncy overcritical viewpoint, which most of them seem to think is the job.



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There's an interesting difference between subjectivity and lies . They obviously thought it was safe to assume he did Mondays, when safe they were not.

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Jules wrote:

There's an interesting difference between subjectivity and lies . They obviously thought it was safe to assume he did Mondays, when safe they were not.


 Ha, true! Rat Trap went down much better in the stadium probably precisely because it was a pleasant change.



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Yes can you believe that these lads and lasses are getting paid for writing this tripe can only think if i was in their shoes and there is a band that were in their pomp and glory 30 odd years ago i might write something quickly and go down the pub.

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daggerrat wrote:

I might write something quickly and go down the pub.


That's the incentive!  In days of yore, Fleet Street used to really get going about 9pm in the evening.    I don't know what happens in town these days as all the drinkers are in Canary Wharf or Shoreditch.



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There's an interesting difference between subjectivity and lies . They obviously thought it was safe to assume he did Mondays, when safe they were not.


 Ha, true! Rat Trap went down much better in the stadium probably precisely because it was a pleasant change.


 ABM - Anything But Mondays.  

Mrs. ArrGee once commented about whether he ever sung anything but Mondays.    You would struggle to find any TV performances since 1991 where he didn't sing it.  Mastertapes was all the better for its omission. 



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There's an interesting difference between subjectivity and lies . They obviously thought it was safe to assume he did Mondays, when safe they were not.


 Ha, true! Rat Trap went down much better in the stadium probably precisely because it was a pleasant change.


 ABM - Anything But Mondays.  

Mrs. ArrGee once commented about whether he ever sung anything but Mondays.    You would struggle to find any TV performances since 1991 where he didn't sing it.  Mastertapes was all the better for its omission. 


 There can't be many, if any. Unlike most other Rats songs, I don't think I've ever found a sudden urge to listen to Mondays. Over-saturation, I suspect.



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I don't think I've ever found a sudden urge to listen to Mondays. 


 It did come on the radio recently and sounded quite brilliant.  But then I was listening to absolute.     It's a good song when you hear it by chance, but when you see Geldof turn up on TV it's hard to get excited about the prospect of hearing Mondays yet again.



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This coming Thursday

David 'Kid' Jensen presents chart hits from 31/01/80, with performances from the Revillos, Kenny Rogers, Azymuth, John Foxx, Madness, Rupert Holmes, the Ramones, Jon & Vangelis, Billy Ocean, the Specials and the usual dance sequence by Legs & Co.

 



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ArrGee wrote:
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There's an interesting difference between subjectivity and lies . They obviously thought it was safe to assume he did Mondays, when safe they were not.


 Ha, true! Rat Trap went down much better in the stadium probably precisely because it was a pleasant change.


 ABM - Anything But Mondays.  

Mrs. ArrGee once commented about whether he ever sung anything but Mondays.    You would struggle to find any TV performances since 1991 where he didn't sing it.  Mastertapes was all the better for its omission. bA

Back in 1981 Geldof here states ' I must say, before we start we're a bit fed up doing this song......'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-gnsp9doJo



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It's all very well for Geldof to say this,  but he has been happy to receive the royalties from this song since 79, cheerfully collecting awards such as the Ivor Novello and best pop song etc back in the day. The song is one to be immensely proud of and like it or not,  it is what most people remember him for from the Rats' days. They are not talking about the echos on LANO and the lyrics to Real Different or the US version of Drag me Down. 

There are repetitive elements to my job, most jobs,  but guess what.....there's no choice. 



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Agree with you 100% here. I don't get this Sure they play rat trap as much as Mondays And sometimes that what people go to see him for. Bowie tried to do something like this B4 not playing his hits  at gigs It didn't go down to well.



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...it is what most people remember him for from the Rats' days. 


Playing it to death over the last 35 years has made it the only thing people remember of Geldof pre-Band Aid.  The Rats are often denounced as one-hit wonders, but if all Geldof ever does is regurgitate Mondays then why would anyone think any different?  If nothing else, the odd airing of Rat Trap down the years, which was almost as big in terms of shifting units,  wouldn't have done any harm.  It is hard to think of an another act so associated with one song.  I would argue that Mondays isn't that representative of what The Rats did given the total absence of guitars.  It is a fine song, but it has overshadowed everything else.



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Agree with you 100% here. I don't get this Sure they play rat trap as much as Mondays And sometimes that what people go to see him for. Bowie tried to do something like this B4 not playing his hits  at gigs It didn't go down to well.


They have, quite possibly, played Rat Trap at every gig since 1978, but you are highly unlikely to hear it on the radio. When Geldof does get the opportunity to perform live on TV, it is always Mondays.

Not sure how the Bowie comparison works.  Bowie hasn't played much in the last 10 years, but the only time he ever did hits was on the 1990 Sound & Vision tour when people voted for the setlist.  Still can't believe he didn't do Laughing Gnome.  Otherwise Bowie has generally toured on the back of albums which have been the core of the set.

Bowie could do a great set without recourse to hits.   Ziggy Stardust was never released as a single not Aladdin Sane nor Oh You Pretty Things nor All The Young Dudes;  Also songs like Look Back In Anger didn't even make the top 40, yet he played it as an opener to pretty much every gig in the 1980s/1990s.  People would go to see Bowie regardless of the set much like they paid top dollar to see Kate Bush. 

And Bowie isn't associated with just one song.  If you asked people at random to name a Bowie song, you would get dozens of replies, whereas if you asked people to name a Rats song...

 



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Lots of 70s/80s acts in a similar position:

Dexys: Come on Eileen, Geno

Spandau: True,  Gold

Human League: DYWM, Mirror Man

Ultravox: Vienna.....erm

Rats: Mondays,  Rat Trap

and I've seen plenty of Mondays-free performances over the years,  inc Diamond Smiles on Parky 2005, Joey on US tv and LANO was shown on 1983's TOTP special for the 1000th show. 

Naturally,  you'll see and hear more of Mondays as the biggest hit,  but the idea anything else is rarely played doesn't bear out. 

 

 

 



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Diamond Smiles on Parky 2005


Incredibly after doing Rat Trap on the same show.  That was a rare one.



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I only recall Diamond Smiles being broadcast on Parky 2005? 

He did Rat Trap unplugged on the One Show 2013 or last year. Are you thinking of that? 



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Or The Brits 2005, when he got his Life Time Achievement award.

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In the mid 80s, they went on the Tube and performed Drag me Down, Do they know it's Christmas and.........Rat Trap.

It's definitely not a case of auto-default to Mondays. I've seen album tracks aired on 'Three of a Kind' at Christmas 1982 (Up All Night) and on Kenny Everett's show in 1980 (Keep it Up) and when they were invited to perform 2 songs on the 6:55 special in mid '82, as well as airing the latest single, Charmed Lives, they chose to play their version of Arnold Layne, when Mondays might have been the other song everyone was expecting.

Without watching them all again, I'm pretty certain Mondays did not feature at Self Aid, Goldiggers (Sight and Sound) and on the recent 25 minute Sky Arts programme showcasing their Isle of Wight performance 2013 (although it was performed there).

For obvious reasons, it can't have been performed on the 1978 Rock Goes to College broadcast or the Hammersmith broadcast from the same year, and when Sky featured the Rats on 'Video killed the Radio Star' a few years back, they didn't simply concentrate on Mondays but many of their other productions including a detailed look at the video for their number 62 hit, Never in a Million Years.

I would venture to suggest that since Mondays, TV companies over the years have been fair and balanced to the Rats and that whilst we may see and hear more of Mondays, it is in proportion to the immense talent and hit this song was.

 

 

 



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With regards to Self Aid They played Someone's looking at you, Joey, & Lookin after No1. In my opinion some of the lets say (not so bigger hits) Are better than Mondays and Rat trap. And I would take Rat trap over Mondays any day Think Dave should have been a top 5 hit Never in a million years should have done a lot better than it did. House on fire was a great wee track



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I only recall Diamond Smiles being broadcast on Parky 2005? 

He did Rat Trap unplugged on the One Show 2013 or last year. Are you thinking of that? 


No,  he did Rat Trap as well.

http://theboomtownrats.blogspot.co.uk/2005/02/geldof-on-parkinson-itv.html



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In the mid 80s, they went on the Tube and performed Drag me Down, Do they know it's Christmas and.........Rat Trap.

It's definitely not a case of auto-default to Mondays. I've seen album tracks aired on 'Three of a Kind' at Christmas 1982 (Up All Night) and on Kenny Everett's show in 1980 (Keep it Up) and when they were invited to perform 2 songs on the 6:55 special in mid '82, as well as airing the latest single, Charmed Lives, they chose to play their version of Arnold Layne, when Mondays might have been the other song everyone was expecting.


ArrGee wrote: "You would struggle to find any TV performances since 1991 where he didn't sing it."

Up until Self Aid when the band were a going concern it was played less frequently, but post Vegetarians of Love it has been the de facto song choice of Geldof on numerous broadcasts.  To be fair, there are a few appearance like Parkinson when it wasn't played but as I wrote for those less acquainted with the Rats there is the impression that it is all he ever did with the Rats.



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I don't think whether you look at pre 1991 or post 1991 performances,  Mondays has been showcased out of proportion to the substantial hit it was. 2013's Late Late Show featured LANO and Rat Trap was redone, as opposed to Mondays,  with Dustin in 1996 gaining considerable tv exposure in Ireland helping it become a big hit all over again. 

 



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Bloody hell there was some dross on last night's edition! Was as if punk never happened.

Madness and Specials just about redeemed it but Billy Ocean, Jon & Vangelis, Kenny Rogers and Rupert Holmes in one show - spare me! As for that animal onesies Legs and co number....FFS no !!

 



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Not the best, was it? 

Better next week as the Rats climb from 14 to 8 and debuting Steve Wright introduces SLAY,  which is the same swivel-chair,  leaping off the piano performance that Mike Read introduced 2 weeks ago. 

 



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Just watching it now. The FF button is hot!!

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The Rats may not be on the Thursday evening show. They sometimes cut 2 or 3 acts to make it fit the 30 mins slot but the full show on Sat into Sun is rarely truncated. 



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The One Show again featured Rat Trap. What with his previous appearance on this particular show and Maida Vale,  plenty of non-Mondays exposure on the BBC to even things up a bit. 



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Nothing now from the Rats until later in 1980 with Banana Republic and one episode will not repeat as DLT introduced. 



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Just started TOTP: Story of 1978 on iPlayer from earlier this week, and Pete's already popped up as a talking head, so expect a bit of Rats later.

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Reasonable show last night with the Rats at 14 (not shown as falling).

Good to see the video for Atomic after all these years. 

Not so good was Alabama Song by David Bowie. His version of this track sounds like a train wreck. I've never heard the opera version but can't believe it could be as bad. The Doors did a better job making it fairly enjoyable. 



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7.30pm this Thursday on BBC4 and Mike Read presents performances from the Bodysnatchers, Squeeze, Sad Cafe, the Lambrettas, Barbara Dickson, Shakin' Stevens, Martha and the Muffins, UB40, and the Jam, and the customary dance sequence by Legs & Co. 



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A rather excitable Peter Powell, complete with strange voice intonations, presented the one just gone, with the Jam's excellent Going Underground still at the top. Quite topical lyrics what with the election coming up. You'll see kidney machines replaced by rockets and guns, the public gets what the public wants.



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....the public gets what the public wants.


 Looks like we are gonna get the SNP tail wagging the dog.  Maybe the rest of us will get the chance to vote on independence next time out. 



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I think even Alex is annoyed Sturgeers won't rule out another stab at nationalist separation and some say he thinks she's not up to the job. Careful Nicola, Salmonds looking at you.



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Kid Jensen introduces Dexys, the Pretenders and the Jam amongst others.

BBC4 7.30pm then the usual weekend repeats.

A strike looms so a fallow summer follows. Getting closer to the odd palm tree set I recall accompanied the studio performance of Banana Republic.



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The Buggles were on again this week, with their policy of releasing poorer singles the longer they went on. Shame they couldn't have put out something to match 'The Back of my Hand', which they produced for the Jags,  after 'Video killed' 

The shows square peg in a round hole, Simon Bates, fails to predict the correct tenure at number one for the Detroit Spinners who are to spend another week at the top before Blondie depose them. 

No record will spend longer than 3 weeks at number one in 1980 apart from the Police's Don't Stand.



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Fast forwarded through a lot of that. What a lot of rubbish music

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Tommy Vance presented this week's show and great to see Dexys top with Geno. Put the subtitles up and never mind misheard lyrics,  this was almost an entirely misheard song. Anyone else have trouble understanding Kevin?



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Tommy Vance presented this week's show and great to see Dexys top with Geno. Put the subtitles up and never mind misheard lyrics,  this was almost an entirely misheard song. Anyone else have trouble understanding Kevin?


 Peter Powell this week with OMD, Human League and Dexys Midnight Runners.

 7.30pm BBC4 on Thursday plus the scattered weekend repeats.



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Interesting to see OMD debut on TOTP as well as The Human League. Neither track was within the top 40, in fact even this TOTP outing would not boost THL into the top 50 from where it started at 72. Jona Lewie was also fortunate to be granted an appearance at 73 with 'You'll always find me in the kitchen at parties'.

Or as Peter Powell billed it, 'You'll always find me in the kitchen at midnight'.



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No repeats for a while. BBC strike now underway in 1980. All resolved in time for Banana Republic though smile



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It's like the 9 week strike never happened. BBC4 showed an early August 1980 edition last night,  so expect the usual weekend repeats, with ABBA at number one (Winner takes all). I suspect with unbroadcastable episodes, we will get back on track otherwise expect Banana Republic earlier than should be the case - you herb it here first smile



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A very young looking Midge Ure on last night with Ultravox performing Sleepwalk. Tommy Vance co presented with Roger Daltrey who expressed his dislike for disco. 

David Bowie was new at 4 with Ashes to Ashes, the video for which apparently cost £40,000.

The Rats produced a better video for a quarter of this cost 4 years later for Drag me Down. Not bad considering we had double digit inflation at the time.



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Steve Wright this week at the helm, introducing David Bowie,  The Jam and EL0. Mike Berry takes time out of Grace Bros next week as 'The sunshine of your smile' continues its steady chart climb.

Legs & Co clock in as normal. 



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Even the most ardent Rats fan can't reckon Drag Me Down is a better video than Ashes to Ashes.




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Why's that then? 

Ashes to Ashes is quintessential Bowie but the video is over the top  and merely repeats visual effects TOTP engineers had worked out how to do years earlier. Hiring a bulldozer hardly elevates it over other good 80s videos. 



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Just watched totp from Thursday. ashes to ashes was the only good song on the show everything else was fast forwarded (apart from sue wilkinson you gotta be a hustler absolutely sweet ) hopefully sonme decent songs soon

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Some weeks are like that, lucky to get one good song! Amazed at the crap that was around at these times, or was it mostly the chart songs?

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It was a poor show with the irritating BA Robertson who thought he was being funny.

Worse to come as Kelly Marie creeps to the top of the charts. 



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ArrGee wrote:
Mark L wrote:

....the public gets what the public wants.


 Looks like we are gonna get the SNP tail wagging the dog.  Maybe the rest of us will get the chance to vote on independence next time out. 


 Prophetic after the SNP activity at Westminster this week.....although the dog turned out to be true blue. 

 



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Dos anyone know when bananas on totp. So i can tape it

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Hi Mike

In 1980, Banana Republic was shown on the 20th November and the 4th December. In 1981, it was shown on the New Years Day edition. The 2015 rerun dates loosely correlate to the actual 1980 dates, sometimes more loosely than other times, and this is down to the 1980 strike, excluded reruns due to damaged DJ reputations and so on. 

This week's show, for instance, is from 18/09/80 and is first being shown on 23/07/15 (later today). If that prematurity continues, you could see Banana Republic in the charts as early as late September.

Unfortunately, only one of the three Rats' performances will be screened. Dave Lee Travis presented the 20/11/80 show, so this will be pulled in all probability together with the New Years Day edition from '81 as he co-presented this with Tommy Vance.

Peter Powell presented the 04/12/80 edition and unless anything emerges to prevent that rerun, it will air.

There were 7 episodes from the beginning of September 1980 through to the Christmas Day edition which featured Saville or DLT and so the culling already underway of these (we've been spared Kevin Keegan co-presenting with DLT 2 weeks ago) should more or less bring the chronology back on track for the 1981 reruns, if this rerun format continues. However, in that year, 17 shows face being culled on the present information so the best thing is to check this feed where I usually give advance notice of a Rats appearance. Sadly, there'll be nowt in '81 to point up, but Simon Bates and Peter Powell with Garth Crooks should in theory be introducing House on Fire in the Spring of 2017.

 



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Nothing this Thursday or next but should return in a few weeks time. 

Meantime,  straddling the midnight hour on Saturday is a look at Irish rock with plenty of Geldof /Rats inclusions. BBC4 10.55 pm Saturday to 12.55 am Sunday. 



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This Saturday at 10.50pm  BBC4 are showing 1979  Big Hits featuring the Rats. Repeated Tuesday evening at a similar time. 

 



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Classic 1980 Top Of The Pops is back on BBC4 after its break for the 1980 strike and the BBC Proms. Save the date in your diary , it is back on our TV screens on Thursday 1st October at 7:30pm, with the 25th September 1980 edition hosted by Mike Read.



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This week saw the Police go straight in at number one with Don't stand, only the 7th act at the time to do that since the charts started in 1952. Forgot how rare this was at the time. Happy to forget the antics of Russ Abbot and Leo Sayer however, clowning about between hits. 

So many misheard lyrics, watching this with subtitles on. 



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Peter Powell this week introduces the 9th October 1980 edition which means we've skipped a week again no doubt for reasons already well aired elsewhere on here. Therefore many of the acts that appeared last week appear this week with OMD and Status Quo on too.



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No show tomorrow 



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Adam and the Ants, Madness and the Police amongst others and introduced by Tommy Vance tomorrow at 7.30pm. 

2 repeats at 1am Friday and Sunday. 

 



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Sounds a good one - might have to set the recorder ...will try to remember!

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Not bad at all, but not well presented by Tommy Vance who introduced Madness and then asked the girl next to him if she was wearing baggy trousers. 

Adam and the Ants return next week with Bad Manners. Cue Peter Powell asking the lad next to him......



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Just watched Spandau Ballet (To cut a long story short) with the subtitles on. What a revelation. Heaven knows what I'd imagined they sang after  'standing in the dark'

We were also treated to Blondie, number one with The Tide is High and the video for Fashion by David Bowie. 

ABBA provided the corniest rhyme of the show with, in Super Trouper, ' I was sick and tired of everything when I called you last night from Glasgow,  all I do is eat and sleep and sing, wishing every show was the last show'

Usual 1980 unfathomable guest appearance moment with Stu Francis. 

 



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No show this week.

A week on Thursday (19/11) if you want to see the 27/11/80 show with Tommy Vance introducing The Stray Cats, Spandau Ballet, Madness, Stephanie Mills and Abba.

All this should mean the Rats are on 26/11 with the 04/12/80 show which sees them at 3 with Banana Republic. Or the Beeb may delay for a week to get back in synch and we are kept waiting til 03/12/15.

I think this is going to be the infamous 'palm trees' in the studio performance, as DLT showed the video when it was at 23.



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The Boomtown Rats will appear on 26/11/15 on this show. Jona Lewie and Abba also feature together with AC/DC.

7.30pm and Midnight next Thursday for Banana Republic's outing introduced by Peter Powell. 



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The Boomtown Rats will appear on 26/11/15 on this show.


Is that in the studio or a video?   

If the Rats ever get around to releasing anything, they should do a Rats at the BBC DVD/CD.   Plenty of material from ToTP along with the Peel Sessions and the live concerts (both TV and Radio).   I suppose they must have appeared on Swap Shop and other shows.  Could even have the Parkinson performances of Rat Trap and Diamond Smiles.  



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