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When I 1st heard Tonight I was going happy days this song has to be a hit. But when it stiffed. I new that Drag me down when it came out had no way of being a hit
I like both songs but prefer DMD and agree with Derek that Tonight was the wrong choice of lead single. DMD managed position 50 as song 2 from ITLG. As lead single, it would have probably cracked the top 40.
The US version of DMD ends better, whereas the UK version has a rather awkward brass heavy ending.
As a rule, I preferred 'fade to end' singles back in the day, although the Rats made some good songs with definite endpoints - Mondays, Graveyard, LANO, etc
As lead single, it would have probably cracked the top 40.
I don't think anything would have cracked the top 40 at that stage. The only hope they had of making the charts was to call themselves another name and release a charity single....
I like both songs but prefer DMD and agree with Derek that Tonight was the wrong choice of lead single. DMD managed position 50 as song 2 from ITLG. As lead single, it would have probably cracked the top 40.
The US version of DMD ends better, whereas the UK version has a rather awkward brass heavy ending.
As a rule, I preferred 'fade to end' singles back in the day, although the Rats made some good songs with definite endpoints - Mondays, Graveyard, LANO, etc
Don't know about that. ITLG was a better album than the last two But if you think about it really what songs do you feel could have been singles apart from the 4 that came of this album along with two tracks as B sides. My fav track goes to Hard time's I even think this would have made a much better A side than the B side of Dave
I like both songs but prefer DMD and agree with Derek that Tonight was the wrong choice of lead single. DMD managed position 50 as song 2 from ITLG. As lead single, it would have probably cracked the top 40.
The US version of DMD ends better, whereas the UK version has a rather awkward brass heavy ending.
As a rule, I preferred 'fade to end' singles back in the day, although the Rats made some good songs with definite endpoints - Mondays, Graveyard, LANO, etc
Don't know about that. ITLG was a better album than the last two But if you think about it really what songs do you feel could have been singles apart from the 4 that came of this album along with two tracks as B sides. My fav track goes to Hard time's I even think this would have made a much better A side than the B side of Dave
I think Dave was potentially the best single, but it stiffed cos sales of the ticket disc were automatically disqualified. The real problem was just a lack of AirPlay and interest from radio which back then was the difference. House on Fire was a minor hit thanks to Peter Powell making it his record of the week on a prime time radio one show. In days of yore, Dave may have benefitted from a better production from Mutt Lange or Visconti and being more likely to get radio play. I really don't think there was anything wrong with any of the singles, they were all good songs, but the world had moved on.
The only reason Geldof had a hit with World Calling was all the publicity around it. Because to be brutally honest, it was the biggest pile of cr@p I had ever heard him sing at that point in time. Yes, even worse than Another Piece of Red and Charmed Lives.
I like both songs but prefer DMD and agree with Derek that Tonight was the wrong choice of lead single. DMD managed position 50 as song 2 from ITLG. As lead single, it would have probably cracked the top 40.
The US version of DMD ends better, whereas the UK version has a rather awkward brass heavy ending.
As a rule, I preferred 'fade to end' singles back in the day, although the Rats made some good songs with definite endpoints - Mondays, Graveyard, LANO, etc
Don't know about that. ITLG was a better album than the last two But if you think about it really what songs do you feel could have been singles apart from the 4 that came of this album along with two tracks as B sides. My fav track goes to Hard time's I even think this would have made a much better A side than the B side of Dave
Hard Times is brilliant although I read somewhere recently that it was a total ripoff of Let's Dance by Bowie. Never had much time for A Hold of Me.
I like both songs but prefer DMD and agree with Derek that Tonight was the wrong choice of lead single. DMD managed position 50 as song 2 from ITLG. As lead single, it would have probably cracked the top 40.
The US version of DMD ends better, whereas the UK version has a rather awkward brass heavy ending.
As a rule, I preferred 'fade to end' singles back in the day, although the Rats made some good songs with definite endpoints - Mondays, Graveyard, LANO, etc
Don't know about that. ITLG was a better album than the last two But if you think about it really what songs do you feel could have been singles apart from the 4 that came of this album along with two tracks as B sides. My fav track goes to Hard time's I even think this would have made a much better A side than the B side of Dave
Hard Times is brilliant although I read somewhere recently that it was a total ripoff of Let's Dance by Bowie. Never had much time for A Hold of Me.
Bloody hell. First time that anyone has ever suggested Hard Times was a 'total ripoff' of Let's Dance. If it was an even near rip off some of us would have spotted it by now. The lyrical content of Hard Times is way too intense for one, compared to the rather lax overall effect of Bowie's Let's Dance, a dance track that isn't really a dance track.
To be honest I can't see any obvious 'rip off's' in any of the Rats songs. Some songs naturally will sound a little bit like others but I doubt if Geldof was going to get a reputation for just rewriting other peoples songs. He had enough flak from the music press for lots of other reasons
Really? So you don't hear the Shagri La's in Eva Braun, or any of Bruce Springsteen in Rat Trap or the first album?
Artistic influences or plain Magpie-isms........they're there. I hadn't thought of the correlation between Hard Times and Let's Dance but you can't deny when it starts, you think Chic are about to launch into Le Freak.
Really? So you don't hear the Shagri La's in Eva Braun, or any of Bruce Springsteen in Rat Trap or the first album?
Artistic influences or plain Magpie-isms........they're there. I hadn't thought of the correlation between Hard Times and Let's Dance but you can't deny when it starts, you think Chic are about to launch into Le Freak.
I didn't intend to mean just occasional little snippets when I meant 'rip off', that happens whether deliberately or not. If a tune was note for note an obvious riip off then I would worry.
I don't really listen to Bruce Springsteen apart from if one of his overblown tunes is one the radio. The Rats always sound more edgy and dangerous than Sprinsteen to my ears. Maybe it's the use of sax on Rat Trap rather than any particular similarity in melody. The Rats have never made any bones about being well into Dr Feelgood, the real template for their music, who a lot of so called rock fans would never have even heard of, or indeed listened too.
I always thought Oasis were pretty guilty of 'magpie-isms'- a lot of their songs seem like cobbled together bits and pieces of classic rock songs.
