p.s. Could be U2 supported by Coldplay on the Sat night and I'd still go to Newark

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Must be Pulp doing Saturday night.  I'll be at Brentwood

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Murmers on Twitter about Brentwood Festival as well:
www.brentwoodgazette.co.uk/Bob-Geldof-Boomtown-Rats-headline-Brentwood/story-28510605-detail/story.html

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On the official site now, so that one looks confirmed.    When you go to the site you can subscribe to get infomation on the early bird tickets which go on sale in February. 

http://brentwoodfestival.co.uk/

For those who fancy spending Easter in Spain.

http://dss2016.eu/en/news/item/2573-bob-geldof-the-boomtown-rats-and-nick-lowe-two-of-the-confirmed-international-artists-stop-war-festibala

http://dss2016.eu/images/dss2016eu/Donostia_San_Sebastian_2016_programme.pdf

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Brentwood is as close as you'll ever be to London.   20 minutes from Liverpool Street and trains every 5-10 minutes.  Last train to London is at about 11.30pm on a Sunday night.

Hear hear

Guessing if Brentwood is a stretch then close to arctic is a non-starter. Only about 1200 miles from Oslo

Gig 9/7 so set off early July

http://www.midnattsrocken.no/

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Who is bigger than the Rats?  

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Level 42 apparently.

Flights booked It's Dublin suburbs for those not necessarily familiar

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Thursday 11th August, Leopardstown Racecourse.

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36 years after the ban they finally play the gig  

http://www.rte.ie/archives/2013/0613/456347-boomtown-rats-reform-after-27-years/

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If only they were slightly better gigs...can't justify a trip to any of these festivals so far with such dodgy lineups!

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I'd go to Brentwood despite the dodgy line up but for the date.    

Train fare only £6.60 return and ticket for £20.  Beer money about £50.  Food £5 for a burger.

I suspect it will be an on the day decision.  If it's raining I ain't going for sure.

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Unfortunately, not many gigs. Not enough. Conflicting views on an album from the band. Bob - no, Garry - yes.

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Yes but Garry Roberts told The Irish Sun: I cant quite believe it but Bob loves playing the old material so much, he now wants some new Rats songs, so were going into the studio to record them.

What does he mean, they're going into the studio to record them and then they'll present them to Bob? Who the heck will lead singer be?

I'd rather they hadn't raised people's hopes.

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If only they were slightly better gigs...can't justify a trip to any of these festivals so far with such dodgy lineups!

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I'd go to Brentwood despite the dodgy line up but for the date.    

Train fare only £6.60 return and ticket for £20.  Beer money about £50.  Food £5 for a burger.

I suspect it will be an on the day decision.  If it's raining I ain't going for sure.

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 I'd very nearly booked it after your early bird post before spotting a diary clash, alas.

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I will wait and see how things are nearer the time.  Too many variables at the moment, weather, wife etc..  Will keep the hotel room booked. There may be some free tickets/further offersl in forthcoming months.  

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Flights booked It's Dublin suburbs for those not necessarily familiar

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Re: Leopardstown, I also booked the Clayton Hotel (formerly Bewley's) which is a one hour one bus (700) ride direct from airport door to door.

I reckon with a good run it could be home to hotel (near venue) in 3.5 hours.

Just saying travel needn't be a blocker if you're UK based and have an airport serving Dublin nearby, especially if you can get a budget flight.

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Flights booked It's Dublin suburbs for those not necessarily familiar

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Re: Leopardstown, I also booked the Clayton Hotel (formerly Bewley's) which is a one hour one bus (700) ride direct from airport door to door.

I reckon with a good run it could be home to hotel (near venue) in 3.5 hours.

Just saying travel needn't be a blocker if you're UK based and have an airport serving Dublin nearby, especially if you can get a budget flight 

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 Do you have your gig tickets?  I couldn't find a proper link to buy them. 

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Pay on the gate, just a race meeting. Most will be there for that, band is incidental.

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So how popular are these races? Are you likely to go and find they're sold out? Also does anyone know if you can buy a ticket and then go out and miss the race . Suppose could sit in the bar!!! .

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Pretty unlikely to sell out. Not sure it ever has.  The Christmas programme can attract around 15,000, but there will be far less in the summer hence the bands to get a bigger crowd.  I suspect the section where the band play will be sectioned off for most of the time and only opened after the last race at about 8.30pm, but that's just speculation on my part.

http://www.leopardstown.com/race-meetings/race-information/race-card/?date=2015-08-13

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Only thing you need worry about is flight for now.  Little chance of me going as a) it is well outside the M25 (though just inside the M50) and b) I will be back from vacation the day before and have zero days holidays remaining in my holiday year that ends in March 2017.  Should I get made redundant or be inbetween jobs then maybe I could, but I am going back to my M25 policy.   May stretch to Brentwood, but will be an on the day decision. Three trips to Ireland to see The Rats is enough for now.  Maybe if they do a 50th anniversary gig in ten years time...

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So how popular are these races? Are you likely to go and find they're sold out? Also does anyone know if you can buy a ticket and then go out and miss the race . Suppose could sit in the bar!!! .

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Pretty unlikely to sell out. Not sure it ever has.  The Christmas programme can attract around 15,000, but there will be far less in the summer hence the bands to get a bigger crowd.  I suspect the section where the band play will be sectioned off for most of the time and only opened after the last race at about 8.30pm, but that's just speculation on my part.

http://www.leopardstown.com/race-meetings/race-information/race-card/?date=2015-08-13

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 According to sponsors Bulmers Cider 36,000 people attended over the course of their Live at Leopardstown series of gigs in 2014. Seems that was over a few  events throughout June, July and 'special events' in August.

I think Human League played there in August 2015. Should get a decent crowd as lots of people go racing just for the social aspect and the drink(ahem).Also Leopardtown is very near Dun Laoghaire so really Rats backyard. I think back in 1980 they had scheduled Leopardstown as a substitute for the Popes Tent/Phoenix Park gigs that were 'banned'. Leopardstown then fell through ,and the homecoming gig was finally organized for Leixlip Castle,home of some of the Guinness family.

BTW The name derives from a 14th century lepers hospital, the name being 'corrupted' to Leopardstown as sometimes happens with place-names. The hospital was originally in St Stephens Green but was moved out to the countryside that is now Leopardstown.

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 According to sponsors Bulmers cider 36,000 people attended over the course of their Live at Leopardstown in 2014. Seems that was over a few  events throughout June, July and 'special events' in August.

I think Human League played there in August 2015. Should get a decent crowd as lots of people go racing just for the social aspect and the drink(ahem).Also Leopardtown is very near Dun Laoghaire so really Rats backyard.

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 That 36,000 is a cumulative figure over eight dates, so that is about 4-5,000 on average. They could accommodate 16,000 plus no problem.  Don't think advance tickets are needed.

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 At the moment I feel,  shall we say, less than enthusiastic. Same old songs, same old jokes- kinda like going to see the Rocky Horror Show. Not a hint of any new songs to spice things up. It's all getting rather predictable methinks.

18 Euro, not a bad price

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 At the moment I feel,  shall we say, less than enthusiastic. Same old songs, same old jokes- kinda like going to see the Rocky Horror Show. Not a hint of any new songs to spice things up. It's all getting rather predictable methinks.

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 Let's do the Time Warp again!

I agree.  After a bit of a break on my part for most of last year, it was the same show in December 2015 as it was in June 2013.  In fact, less as there were longer sets at Hurtwood and Cork.   So after two and a half years, nothing has changed.  Same snake skin suit, same songs in the same order yada yada yada.  Fine if you haven't seen it all before, but if it is the ninth or tenth time it's not going to make you bother with it all again, bar some exceptions.    Maida Vale was great because it was different.  It doesn't even have to be radically different, the odd surprise song or two would do.  

Having mentioned the suit, I noted Zoolander had the look way before Boomtown Bob...

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 At the moment I feel,  shall we say, less than enthusiastic. Same old songs, same old jokes- kinda like going to see the Rocky Horror Show. Not a hint of any new songs to spice things up. It's all getting rather predictable methinks.

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 Let's do the Time Warp again!

I agree.  After a bit of a break on my part for most of last year, it was the same show in December 2015 as it was in June 2013.  In fact, less as there were longer sets at Hurtwood and Cork.   So after two and a half years, nothing has changed.  Same snake skin suit, same songs in the same order yada yada yada.  Fine if you haven't seen it all before, but if it is the ninth or tenth time it's not going to make you bother with it all again, bar some exceptions.    Maida Vale was great because it was different.  It doesn't even have to be radically different, the odd surprise song or two would do.  

Having mentioned the suit, I noted Zoolander had the look way before Boomtown Bob...

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 Does Bob have matching boots and suitcase? . 

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 At the moment I feel,  shall we say, less than enthusiastic. Same old songs, same old jokes- kinda like going to see the Rocky Horror Show. Not a hint of any new songs to spice things up. It's all getting rather predictable methinks.

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 Let's do the Time Warp again!

I agree.  After a bit of a break on my part for most of last year, it was the same show in December 2015 as it was in June 2013.  In fact, less as there were longer sets at Hurtwood and Cork.   So after two and a half years, nothing has changed.  Same snake skin suit, same songs in the same order yada yada yada.  Fine if you haven't seen it all before, but if it is the ninth or tenth time it's not going to make you bother with it all again, bar some exceptions.    Maida Vale was great because it was different.  It doesn't even have to be radically different, the odd surprise song or two would do.  

 Completely get what you're saying here. They are reliant on people not having seen it or loyalty like Suss and me and others. Hope for a few small changes though. As you say it would make all the difference. 

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If anything the festival dates seem even less surprising and even more predictable (hits and finish with eponymous song). The only difference between Cambridge 2014, Forum 2014 and Dublin 2015 were the encore songs; Never Bite The Hand That Feeds & She Does It Right rather than Howard Hughes.  Even in 2013, the Cambridge and Roundhouse sets were identical.  

There are a few bands I have seen on a frequent basis down the years, but I have never known any do identical sets time after time over such a long period. 

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So as long as there's a few more 1980s festivals to be played they seem to be reliant on festival bookings.  The quality of the festivals is diminishing. Isle of Wight and Cork were top notch back in 2013 whilst Latitude and Electric Picnic last year were also premier festivals, but this year's bookings look like there isn't much left for them to play, even heading back to the festivals that the Barton/Bradbury Rats played.  I would have thought they should be at least one of the big festivals at this stage of the comeback.   Glastonbury, Leeds, Reading, T in the Park, Bestival and V should all be possible.

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Better than £84 for the Norway gig (day ticket!) anyway....

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 Are you doing Norway?  Leopardstown far more reasonable. 

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Took the plunge last week so hope this one comes off. ArrGee is right about flights too.

The one saving grace is the airport is walking distance to hotel, and hotel walking distance from festival.

Just need to factor in the £25 for (1) beer burger and chips meal if previous Norway visits anything to go by.

All part of the experience I tell myself, and my bank manager

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What do you tell Mrs. suss?      

Mrs. ArrGee is tolerant enough to let me go to Dublin and Cork for the night.  A five day round trip to the Arctic.    

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The good news therefore for Mrs Suss is I'll be home on the Sunday before her birthday is over, by about 10 minutes

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 I am not even getting a ticket for a potential title decider because it's on the same weekend as Mrs. ArrGee's birthday.    I pushed the envelope heading to Highbury on Valentine's morning (I fcuking hate how Sky arrange these date changes with just over a fortnight's notice), which I only got away with thanks to her having to bring our daughter to gymnastics.  I was back at 3pm by which time the florist had arrived.

Mrs. suss will be expecting one hell of a gift this year.  That's the one you need to discuss with the bank manager.

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 Not to mention the £400 flights.  Still, cheaper than a front row seat for The Who.

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 Cheaper than front row at the Who.    Total rip off.

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 At the moment I feel,  shall we say, less than enthusiastic. Same old songs, same old jokes- kinda like going to see the Rocky Horror Show. Not a hint of any new songs to spice things up. It's all getting rather predictable methinks.

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 Let's do the Time Warp again!

I agree.  After a bit of a break on my part for most of last year, it was the same show in December 2015 as it was in June 2013.  In fact, less as there were longer sets at Hurtwood and Cork.   So after two and a half years, nothing has changed.  Same snake skin suit, same songs in the same order yada yada yada.  Fine if you haven't seen it all before, but if it is the ninth or tenth time it's not going to make you bother with it all again, bar some exceptions.    Maida Vale was great because it was different.  It doesn't even have to be radically different, the odd surprise song or two would do.  

Having mentioned the suit, I noted Zoolander had the look way before Boomtown Bob...

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 Well they say the definition of madness is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.Ergo all us regulars/fanatics are mad. Bob stated in one of his recent interviews that the snake skin suit idea came after watching ' a Nicholas  Cage movie'. The film in

question is Wild At Heart, a bit hig back in the early nineties. PS I've never seen Zoolander, nor do I wish to.

PS Dun Laoghaire would be a great place for a meet up as it's a 20 minute bus ride  from Leopardstown. That's if i still have the will to see them.

noelindublin wrote:

The original snake suit idea. Nicholas Cage in Wild At Heart:

Just a jacket.  That doesn't count.  Boomtown Bob is more Blue Steel.

 

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I've never seen Zoolander, nor do I wish to.

You should, it's very funny.  Avoid the sequel though.  ArrGee junior wasn't impressed.  

 

Hansel said:

"Sting would be another person who's a hero. The music he's created over the years, I don't really listen to it, but the fact that he's making it, I respect that."

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Flights booked It's Dublin suburbs for those not necessarily familiar

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Re: Leopardstown, I also booked the Clayton Hotel (formerly Bewley's) which is a one hour one bus (700) ride direct from airport door to door.

I reckon with a good run it could be home to hotel (near venue) in 3.5 hours.

Just saying travel needn't be a blocker if you're UK based and have an airport serving Dublin nearby, especially if you can get a budget flight.

 

 

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 Right, booked the Clayton and the Harding in Dublin for a couple of nights before (not going there without seeing Dublin). What do all these ticket types mean?  I've emailed them. Summer Party, Enclosure, top seats etc. any ideas?

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As far as I know it is. Not sure how you get tickets.

Looks like the festival gig in Brentwold is not a headline show. Just been on the festival website and the lineup advertised so far is

Tony  Hadley 

ABC

Boomtown Rats 

in that order. So that will mean it will be a short set for the Boomtown Rats.

Also the gig at Hurtwood polo club in Dorking is a charity gig organised by Kenny Jones ex drummer with Small Faces, Faces and the Who. The Bbomtown Rats are also not headlining this gig as Kenny Jones is. So again they will play a short set at this festival. So if you are thinkng of going to one of these festivals to see the Boomtown a Rats just been warned they will play short sets like they do when they play at the 80's festivals. I could be wrong but thsts what it looks like to me.

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Looks like the festival gig in Brentwold is not a headline show.

 

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 Not sure - see the poster above in this thread (17/2). On basis first named are clearly top of the bill Fri and Sat then same would be true of Rats on Sunday.

Either way for this and Hurtwood they have a tried and trusted 40 minute set and also an hour set if time permits, assuming no revision to the festival sets used previously.

Got a ticket for Boomtown Rats in Basingstok the gig is at this new venue that is opening in Basingstoke. They have turned the towns cheesy night club in a new live music venue. This weekend you can only by tickets from a ticket stall in the Basingstoke Festival place shopping Center. Online tickets go on sale on 25th March. The Support act is Max Milner some young lad from the TV show the Voice UK. So I am ok with this support act just glad the suport act is not Patrick Fitzgerald who was support act  on the 2013 tour. He was not my cup of tea to be polite. It's the venue who have organised this gig as it part of a 3 day  weekend of gigs gor the opening of the burned. The venue are trying to claim its Boomtown Rats only indoor UK gig this year.