RTE1 Late Late show Friday 4th Dec 9.35 pm

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

RTE1 Late Late show Friday 4th Dec 9.35 pm

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

RE: RTE1 show Friday 4th Dec 9.35 pm

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

I'm already here in Dublin. Probably won't see it though.

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Great stuff. Hopefully see you on Sunday night then.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Will be at Brigan's for sure.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

RE: RTE1 Late Late show Friday 4th Dec 9.35 pm

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

ArrGee wrote:
While I was waiting for my plane to depart I watched this. The Joey performance was really good. The interview was also very interesting, and it was funny how Geldof used we referring to the UK more often than not particularly regarding the ISIS situation.

Anyway rather than dig up that hornet's nest again, other than to say I agreed with everything he said on that matter, he made a comment that pi$$ed me off a bit about not liking playing London cos of the audience's blase attitude! Given that the audience participation at the Forum was as good as I have been involved in anywhere (Cork included) and that the Cadogan Hall had a real cracking atmosphere, the seen it all attitude of the audience wasn't too much of an issue. The gigs in Cambridge were far more blase if the truth be told and on both occasions there was a real reticence in getting involved at all.

Maybe the comment provides a insight on the decision to not do a London date for the 40th anniversary.

Maybe he's muddling up gigs. Hope they do play London again. It attracts people from far and wide, for one thing. I, too, loved both the two London ones I've been too.

Ive not yet seen the Joey performance, but did catch the interview on rte I player on Saturday morning, while I was trying to wake myself up. The Joey performance is on YouTube so will catch it there.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Jules wrote:
Maybe he's muddling up gigs. Hope they do play London again. It attracts people from far and wide, for one thing. I, too, loved both the two London ones I've been too.

I could probably accept that critique of say the Roundhouse audience, though it was still streets ahead of Cambridge, but the Forum audience was definitely very enthusiastic. And if Geldof has had better solo audiences at the half empty venues he often plays than the one at Cadogan Hall then I would be shocked.

Anyway if they don't want to play London, no problem. Save me a few quid. Plenty of other bands love playing here. Pulp especially. I remember Jarvis C0cker at Hyde Park talking about how despite the band being formed in Sheffield, it was moving to London that was the making of them and the gig was a homecoming of sorts. Ok, he wasn't so enamored with Mile End, but then again who is? After that they played three more London dates including two consecutive nights at Brixton where they played a number of rare songs. Hell, even back in the day they used to have their fan club Christmas show in London.

That Mile End thing is a little dig at a friend of mine. It's a lot better these days. Better than dangerous E11.

-- Edited by ArrGee on Tuesday 8th of December 2015 02:01:13 PM

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
While I was waiting for my plane to depart I watched this. The Joey performance was really good. The interview was also very interesting, and it was funny how Geldof used we referring to the UK more often than not particularly regarding the ISIS situation.

Anyway rather than dig up that hornet's nest again, other than to say I agreed with everything he said on that matter, he made a comment that pi$$ed me off a bit about not liking playing London cos of the audience's blase attitude! Given that the audience participation at the Forum was as good as I have been involved in anywhere (Cork included) and that the Cadogan Hall had a real cracking atmosphere, the seen it all attitude of the audience wasn't too much of an issue. The gigs in Cambridge were far more blase if the truth be told and on both occasions there was a real reticence in getting involved at all.

Maybe the comment provides a insight on the decision to not do a London date for the 40th anniversary.

The atmosphere at the Roundhouse seemed a little subdued, but then again it was almost full. Everyone paid to get in so whether they decide to pogo or stroke their chins it's up to them.

I can't remember much about the Forum due to drinking too much alcohol and most of what I remember is trips to the loo. That was the only Rats gig I drank at, and all the others were sober outings, which means I can actually remember them. smile

I don't see how a 40th anniversary gig in London would not work.It's where the Rats lived throughout their glory years and is as relevant to their success and story as Dublin. But I suppose it's a bit late for that now.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
I don't see how a 40th anniversary gig in London would not work.It's where the Rats lived throughout their glory years and is as relevant to their success and story as Dublin. But I suppose it's a bit late for that now.

Well if Geldof doesn't like playing in London cos of the audience it's not going to work. Maybe he's not so keen on playing to 2,000 and sleeping in his own bed anymore.

She's So Modern and Wind Chill Factor aside I can't think of any other references to London in the Rats songs, and as I remember they did have a dislike of the London punk/new wave scene of the late seventies when they were decamped in Chessington. So in all likelihood it's not that relevant to them.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

I just hope they return to London for an ordinary gig in the future. It always sells.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Jules wrote:
I just hope they return to London for an ordinary gig in the future. It always sells.

Only if Geldof apologises to all nine million of us. Otherwise we are going to run him out of town

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
I don't see how a 40th anniversary gig in London would not work.It's where the Rats lived throughout their glory years and is as relevant to their success and story as Dublin. But I suppose it's a bit late for that now.
Well if Geldof doesn't like playing in London cos of the audience it's not going to work. Maybe he's not so keen on playing to 2,000 and sleeping in his own bed anymore.
She's So Modern and Wind Chill Factor aside I can't think of any other references to London in the Rats songs, and as I remember they did have a dislike of the London punk/new wave scene of the late seventies when they were decamped in Chessington. So in all likelihood it's not that relevant to them.

Bells of Big Ben at start of Do The Rat. Skin On Skin 'London Stops and everything's sweet' etc

Someones Looking -Trafalgar Square .Whitehall I212.

London was/is the capital of the music business so that's why the Rats moved there. There was no chance of a band like the Rats having the same success in Ireland as the music business was totally different and largely dominated by very conservative 'showband' type bands who just did covers of other bands. Also the economies of scale- Briitian has a much larger population than Ireland so more gigs and more record sales.

Surely becoming mates with the Pistols and Elvis Costello and getting an education by having access to lots of interesting live music counts too.All the TOTP appearances. London is Geldof's favorite city

You could say that the Rats were 'musical refugees' and London was the place they found their feet.I think they slept in Chessington more than actually lived there.

-- Edited by noelindublin on Tuesday 8th of December 2015 02:46:28 PM

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
The atmosphere at the Roundhouse seemed a little subdued, but then again it was almost full. Everyone paid to get in so whether they decide to pogo or stroke their chins it's up to them.

Actually, there were quite a number who didn't pay. I won some free tickets, as did others. Only thing is I had already bought a couple. Throw in all the guest passes and complimentary tickets handed out by the band, promoter, staff etc. and I'd say there were a pretty large number not paying. This is even more true in London as the record companies get piles of comps. I have been to a few after gig parties where it would be fair to say it comprised about 5-10% of the attendance.

I used to get AAA and guest passes galore back in the day for gigs at Wembley and we would just bunk into The Rainbow cos we knew someone at the door. And once I was at a Dodgy concert (Dodgy is the band name), where there were so many on the guest list, they had to refund ticket holders who arrived late as the Mean Fiddler was already at capacity.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
Surely becoming mates with the Pistols and Elvis Costello

I don't think Elvis Costello saw them as mates. He was very scathing of them.

noelindublin wrote:
London is Geldof's favorite city

Is it? Then I guess it's just London audiences he doesn't care for. Of course, a large number of the London audience at a major gig don't actually come from London. So that makes about 25 million or so to apologise to

-- Edited by ArrGee on Tuesday 8th of December 2015 03:03:47 PM

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
I think they slept in Chessington more than actually lived there.

I thought Nigel Grainge and Mutt Lange just locked them up in a cage there until they could play their instruments properly

The evidence...

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
I think they slept in Chessington more than actually lived there.
I thought Nigel Grainge and Mutt Lange just locked them up in a cage there until they could play their instruments properly
The evidence...

Human rats in Chessington Zoo?

They had more time to learn to play than most of the other so called punk bands. Nearly two years including lots of gigs around Ireland between Oct 75 and their first hit in August 77.

-- Edited by noelindublin on Tuesday 8th of December 2015 03:31:58 PM

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
They had more time to learn to play than most of the other so called punk bands. Nearly two years including lots of gigs around Ireland between Oct 75 and their first hit in August 77.

True, but Mutt Lange did whip them into shape. I was told they had over seventy takes to record Looking After No. 1.

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

I recorded this When I get round to putting it on dvd you can all have one

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

manatthetop wrote:
I recorded this When I get round to putting it on dvd you can all have one

Excellent!! biggrin

Still havent seen the Imelda May Show. Should've tried to get it whilst in Ireland, silly me. confuse confuse

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Jules wrote:
Still havent seen the Imelda May Show. Should've tried to get it whilst in Ireland, silly me.

It wasn't available. I did check.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh-oAH-RW8Y

The Late Late performance of Joey is very faithful to the record. Great passion from the band, nice blue lighting which gives it a nice sheen and the small stage set means the band are all closer together on stage which adds to the impact.Alan gets in the lovely piano bit at the end too, in true Fingers style.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

noelindublin wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh-oAH-RW8Y
The Late Late performance of Joey is very faithful to the record. Great passion from the band, nice blue lighting which gives it a nice sheen and the small stage set means the band are all closer together on stage which adds to the impact.Alan gets in the lovely piano bit at the end too, in true Fingers style.

Thanks for the Joey link.

Hmm, we might be out of luck with Imelda May, I've not checked YouTube for sometime. Maybe it will appear on there.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Available in the UK

www.rte.ie/player/gb/show/the-late-late-show-extras-30003017/10501209/

Mark L · Loudmouth

Asking me to subscribe for £3.99 a month to watch and faffing me about from UK store to Ireland store on I pad

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Works on my PC

Mark L · Loudmouth

Thought it must have done or we'd have heard !

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Mark L wrote:
Asking me to subscribe for £3.99 a month to watch and faffing me about from UK store to Ireland store on I pad

That's what happened when I tried to view the Imelda May show, months ago. Some people must have special privileges biggrin

TIMBO · Someone's Looking At You

Just watched the Joey performance. Excellent song and great performance.

Come On You Rats!!!!!!!!

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Agree they did do this song good on the night