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Forgive me if this isn't quite 100% accurate and I am talking in broad strokes here...
Part of the problem seems to be the type of events The Boomtown Rats are being booked to appear at.
In past years they've played on bills such as Victorious, Isle of Wight Festival etc where the festivals themselves draw huge crowds anyway regardless of their involvement. They always seem to excel (albeit in shorter sets) but on festival bills alongside other top level acts.
They've also headlined festivals like Wychwood and Rebellious, which are smaller but really still rather big festivals with a loyal and regular inbuilt audiences who will attend each year almost regardless of the headline acts. And The Boomtown Rats have played longer killer sets and always risen to the occasion.
The trouble with some of the 2017 dates and the Queen of the South stadium show last year, seems to be that while labelled as 'festivals' the One Life Festival and the other this summer in the UK are really just big concerts in large venues with a big bill. The Rats stretch as headliners in a huge venue for a concert is being pushed far beyond capacity.
Also due to his involvement with the Band Aid 30 and certain very sad personal tragedies in Bob's life, he was in the public eye a couple of years ago much more than he has been recently. And perhaps that has hurt ticket sales as broader public awareness has dipped somewhat. He has always been a provocative and entertaining interview guest and maybe some broadcast promotion would do him (and the band) the world of good.
I believe if The Boomtown Rats pick more established proper festivals for their summer tours, rather than concerts named 'festivals' without an established precedent. They can still do great business in the UK making and performing music. More high level promotion could do wonders and I'm sure autumn concert tours would be possible in 02 academy size venues in the UK
Part of the problem seems to be the type of events The Boomtown Rats are being booked to appear at.
The trouble with some of the 2017 dates and the Queen of the South stadium show last year, seems to be that while labelled as 'festivals' the One Life Festival and the other this summer in the UK are really just big concerts in large venues with a big bill. The Rats stretch as headliners in a huge venue for a concert is being pushed far beyond capacity.
Also due to his involvement with the Band Aid 30 and certain very sad personal tragedies in Bob's life, he was in the public eye a couple of years ago much more than he has been recently. And perhaps that has hurt ticket sales as broader public awareness has dipped somewhat. He has always been a provocative and entertaining interview guest and maybe some broadcast promotion would do him (and the band) the world of good.
I believe if The Boomtown Rats pick more established proper festivals for their summer tours, rather than concerts named 'festivals' without an established precedent. They can still do great business in the UK making and performing music. More high level promotion could do wonders and I'm sure autumn concert tours would be possible in 02 academy size venues in the UK
Definitely wrong type of festival but Geldof shooting his mouth off into his foot at Brentwood and The Thames has meant bigger family orientated festivals are unlikely to want them, so they are getting the non-established festivals.
The lines ups for One Live, Prekyfest and Queen of the South were all fairly decent and should have shifted a few tickets, but I suspect there are too many festivals and some of the smaller ones just fall by the wayside.
Ideally, The Rats would have been better off taking the approach of The Damned and The Stranglers and supporting Green Day at Hyde Park and selling tickets off the back of that, but unlikely they were asked.
The promotion thing. This forum and the websites are dying on their ar$es, but there is a tw*tface presence. They could be better and it is a shame the London 40th anniversary gig was a bit of an own goal there.
I can't see another UK tour as there was barely enough interest two years ago. There may be a similar approach to the Irish gigs in having one off event gigs in say London and a couple of other big centres.
Ultimately, it's disappointing that there will be no headline sets in the UK this summer. What a bumm3r!
Forgive me if this isn't quite 100% accurate and I am talking in broad strokes here...
Part of the problem seems to be the type of events The Boomtown Rats are being booked to appear at.
In past years they've played on bills such as Victorious, Isle of Wight Festival etc where the festivals themselves draw huge crowds anyway regardless of their involvement. They always seem to excel (albeit in shorter sets) but on festival bills alongside other top level acts.
They've also headlined festivals like Wychwood and Rebellious, which are smaller but really still rather big festivals with a loyal and regular inbuilt audiences who will attend each year almost regardless of the headline acts. And The Boomtown Rats have played longer killer sets and always risen to the occasion.
The trouble with some of the 2017 dates and the Queen of the South stadium show last year, seems to be that while labelled as 'festivals' the One Life Festival and the other this summer in the UK are really just big concerts in large venues with a big bill. The Rats stretch as headliners in a huge venue for a concert is being pushed far beyond capacity.
Also due to his involvement with the Band Aid 30 and certain very sad personal tragedies in Bob's life, he was in the public eye a couple of years ago much more than he has been recently. And perhaps that has hurt ticket sales as broader public awareness has dipped somewhat. He has always been a provocative and entertaining interview guest and maybe some broadcast promotion would do him (and the band) the world of good.
I believe if The Boomtown Rats pick more established proper festivals for their summer tours, rather than concerts named 'festivals' without an established precedent. They can still do great business in the UK making and performing music. More high level promotion could do wonders and I'm sure autumn concert tours would be possible in 02 academy size venues in the UK
believe if The Boomtown Rats pick more established proper festivals for their summer tours, rather than concerts named 'festivals' without an established precedent. They can still do great business in the UK making and performing music. More high level promotion could do wonders and I'm sure autumn concert tours would be possible in 02 academy size venues in the UK
I'd imagine if they were offered some of the large, established festivals(Glastonbury we can dream) then they would do them without a moments hesitation. So the sad fact seems to be that they do not get offered these more hip cool festivals. They seem to be stuck in the lower leagues, so to speak more likely to appear with Paul Young and Bananarama than Radiohead or Foo Fighters or whoever tops Glastonbury.
I thought that after the first tour and IoW gig and then the subsequent few years things would start to look up. Not ever sure if they are going 'sideways' now. They seem to be a making- up - the- numbers act on the eighties nostalgia circuit and that's the sad thing. If Corbyn can do Glastonbury then Geldof can! When I look at all the bands at this years Glastonbury it's headscratchingly difficult to see why a band like the Rats wouldn't even get a chance there.
Anyway I'm still holding out for an autumn tour and new album.I think around the UK and Ireland they can still attract a few thousand in indoor venues and those hardcore fans will always turn up. The very long awaited new album is the only thing I can see than will lift things out of 'nostalgia mode', and can a minor stir if it's any good. One or two new songs than might get some national radio play because they are actually good. Well that's how it used to work in the old days. At least it would be trying to so things on merit rather than just expecting constant rehashes of Rat Trap and Mondays. True fans would be open to new songs which are always the lifeblood of music, otherwise what's the point?
Part of the problem seems to be the type of events The Boomtown Rats are being booked to appear at.
The trouble with some of the 2017 dates and the Queen of the South stadium show last year, seems to be that while labelled as 'festivals' the One Life Festival and the other this summer in the UK are really just big concerts in large venues with a big bill. The Rats stretch as headliners in a huge venue for a concert is being pushed far beyond capacity.
Also due to his involvement with the Band Aid 30 and certain very sad personal tragedies in Bob's life, he was in the public eye a couple of years ago much more than he has been recently. And perhaps that has hurt ticket sales as broader public awareness has dipped somewhat. He has always been a provocative and entertaining interview guest and maybe some broadcast promotion would do him (and the band) the world of good.
I believe if The Boomtown Rats pick more established proper festivals for their summer tours, rather than concerts named 'festivals' without an established precedent. They can still do great business in the UK making and performing music. More high level promotion could do wonders and I'm sure autumn concert tours would be possible in 02 academy size venues in the UK
Definitely wrong type of festival but Geldof shooting his mouth off into his foot at Brentwood and The Thames has meant bigger family orientated festivals are unlikely to want them, so they are getting the non-established festivals.
The lines ups for One Live, Prekyfest and Queen of the South were all fairly decent and should have shifted a few tickets, but I suspect there are too many festivals and some of the smaller ones just fall by the wayside.
Ideally, The Rats would have been better off taking the approach of The Damned and The Stranglers and supporting Green Day at Hyde Park and selling tickets off the back of that, but unlikely they were asked.
The promotion thing. This forum and the websites are dying on their ar$es, but there is a tw*tface presence. They could be better and it is a shame the London 40th anniversary gig was a bit of an own goal there.
I can't see another UK tour as there was barely enough interest two years ago. There may be a similar approach to the Irish gigs in having one off event gigs in say London and a couple of other big centres.
Ultimately, it's disappointing that there will be no headline sets in the UK this summer. What a bumm3r!
London is a bug centre! I always make typos that totally change the meaning of what I'm trying to say. It's usually just one simple character and hilarious results ensue or else total bewilderment on behalf of the reader.
-- Edited by Noel on Monday 26th of June 2017 01:51:02 PM
I can't see another UK tour as there was barely enough interest two years ago. There may be a similar approach to the Irish gigs in having one off event gigs in say London and a couple of other big centres.
Ultimately, it's disappointing that there will be no headline sets in the UK this summer. What a bumm3r!
London is a bug centre! I always make typos that totally change the meaning of what I'm trying to say. It's usually just one simple character and hilarious results ensue or else total bewilderment on behalf of the reader.
Crikey I fixed that within minutes, and you haven't even quoted it (nor is it on the earlier version)
I'd imagine if they were offered some of the large, established festivals(Glastonbury we can dream) then they would do them without a moments hesitation. So the sad fact seems to be that they do not get offered these more hip cool festivals. They seem to be stuck in the lower leagues, so to speak more likely to appear with Paul Young and Bananarama than Radiohead or Foo Fighters or whoever tops Glastonbury.
I thought that after the first tour and IoW gig and then the subsequent few years things would start to look up. Not ever sure if they are going 'sideways' now. They seem to be a making- up - the- numbers act on the eighties nostalgia circuit and that's the sad thing. If Corbyn can do Glastonbury then Geldof can! When I look at all the bands at this years Glastonbury it's headscratchingly difficult to see why a band like the Rats wouldn't even get a chance there.
Glastonbury/T In The Park/Reading/Leeds would have been good to have been on even at the bottom of the bill given the likelihood of some TV exposure. Isle of Wight did have TV, but alas only on Sky Arts, so many missed it. Rebellion, Electric Picnic and Latitude are high on a par with the top festivals, and they were getting these slots two years ago.
They have gone down the festival league in the last two years. Glastonbury isn't on next year, so there will be more competition for the slots at the prime festivals. I reckon there should be a Rebellion South somewhere inside the M25 to make up for it with all the top punk/new wave bands lining up. Elvis Costello, Damned, Buzz****s, Blondie, Stranglers, Rats, Squeeze, Dexys, Tom Robinson, Julian Cope, Ruts DC, From The Jam, Blockheads, Pretenders, Specials, UB40, Adam Ant, Vapors, Skids...
... I reckon that would shift a few tickets. Could even chuck in some pre-punk acts like Slade, Sweet and Sparks.
Anyway I'm still holding out for an autumn tour and new album.I think around the UK and Ireland they can still attract a few thousand in indoor venues and those hardcore fans will always turn up. The very long awaited new album is the only thing I can see than will lift things out of 'nostalgia mode', and can a minor stir if it's any good. One or two new songs than might get some national radio play because they are actually good. Well that's how it used to work in the old days. At least it would be trying to so things on merit rather than just expecting constant rehashes of Rat Trap and Mondays. True fans would be open to new songs which are always the lifeblood of music, otherwise what's the point?
Zero chance of an autumn tour as it would already have been announced, but I suppose given rescheduled dates in Germany the chance of other dates at the end of 2017/start of 2018.
I don't think there will be a new album. Well not this year.
I really hope the new album is both released and good. I've seen the Rats at festivals win over any crowd however uninitiated and sceptical. Good broadcast publicity could prompt a re-appraisal. I know the EP wasn't quite what some of us had in mind. But there are good moments, and Geldof's last solo album was a great piece of work drawing critical acclaim if not massive sales. It could kick start more interest, but it needs to be handled very well. Other veteran acts have released new records to great acclaim. It is possible, but it needs LOADS of promotion to get off the ground. The Status Quo: The Frantic Four original lineup reunion tours were very well received and the Rolling Stones 'Blue and Lonesome' albeit covers but captured the public's imagination. I'm not saying the Rats have the same reach- but if they did release a 2017 sounding record that was rawer like the first album but addressing contemporary concerns that they could do on stage. Maybe there might be a re-evaluation of the Rats history with acts like this a knowledge of their own history is often what sells and is endearing. They could try recording it in Dublin- get in touch with themselves abit
Anyway I'm still holding out for an autumn tour and new album.I think around the UK and Ireland they can still attract a few thousand in indoor venues and those hardcore fans will always turn up. The very long awaited new album is the only thing I can see than will lift things out of 'nostalgia mode', and can a minor stir if it's any good. One or two new songs than might get some national radio play because they are actually good. Well that's how it used to work in the old days. At least it would be trying to so things on merit rather than just expecting constant rehashes of Rat Trap and Mondays. True fans would be open to new songs which are always the lifeblood of music, otherwise what's the point?
Zero chance of an autumn tour as it would already have been announced, but I suppose given rescheduled dates in Germany the chance of other dates at the end of 2017/start of 2018.
I don't think there will be a new album. Well not this year.
It's still only June. Plenty of time to organise an autumn/winter tour maybe starting in October and into November and December. Mid August marks the 40th anniverstity of the first hit Looking After No 1 so that milestone might remind them of the fact that the used to make records.
I presume you've seen the photos of the band in the studio recording the new album. Geldof said a few months ago that they had just finished it. That was back in late April I think. Obviously it may need extra work and mixing, engineering etc, maybe some further tracks may have written more latterly. It would seem more logical to do it this side of Christmas than waiting until the new year, when no one has any money and everyone is all 'gigged out'.
Still the first Rats album in about 32 years should, just by the almost unique gap in recording, garner a bit of press interest. Just hope the wait was worth it.
-- Edited by Noel on Tuesday 27th of June 2017 01:03:02 PM
I really hope the new album is both released and good. I've seen the Rats at festivals win over any crowd however uninitiated and sceptical. Good broadcast publicity could prompt a re-appraisal. I know the EP wasn't quite what some of us had in mind. But there are good moments, and Geldof's last solo album was a great piece of work drawing critical acclaim if not massive sales. It could kick start more interest, but it needs to be handled very well. Other veteran acts have released new records to great acclaim. It is possible, but it needs LOADS of promotion to get off the ground. The Status Quo: The Frantic Four original lineup reunion tours were very well received and the Rolling Stones 'Blue and Lonesome' albeit covers but captured the public's imagination. I'm not saying the Rats have the same reach- but if they did release a 2017 sounding record that was rawer like the first album but addressing contemporary concerns that they could do on stage. Maybe there might be a re-evaluation of the Rats history with acts like this a knowledge of their own history is often what sells and is endearing. They could try recording it in Dublin- get in touch with themselves abit
It's supposed to be recorded already.Lets hope it isn't one of those mythical albums that gets scrapped and no one ever gets to hear it. We hava a few studio photos of the four oriningal members working in the studio but that's about it.
I can honestly say that the Ratlife ep was the only real 'failure' in my estimation of their career. In theory at least they should be able to get it together and come up with something a bit better, something that has a bit or the raw drive of the first album and the pop sensibilities of Tonic and Surfacing. I'd rather wait and get ten good songs than see anything like Ratlife emerge. Having said that The Boomtown Rats self titled song is kinda ok, and actually seems like an old track it's been played life so often at the live gigs.
I really hope the new album is both released and good. I've seen the Rats at festivals win over any crowd however uninitiated and sceptical. Good broadcast publicity could prompt a re-appraisal. I know the EP wasn't quite what some of us had in mind. But there are good moments, and Geldof's last solo album was a great piece of work drawing critical acclaim if not massive sales. It could kick start more interest, but it needs to be handled very well. Other veteran acts have released new records to great acclaim. It is possible, but it needs LOADS of promotion to get off the ground. The Status Quo: The Frantic Four original lineup reunion tours were very well received and the Rolling Stones 'Blue and Lonesome' albeit covers but captured the public's imagination. I'm not saying the Rats have the same reach- but if they did release a 2017 sounding record that was rawer like the first album but addressing contemporary concerns that they could do on stage. Maybe there might be a re-evaluation of the Rats history with acts like this a knowledge of their own history is often what sells and is endearing. They could try recording it in Dublin- get in touch with themselves abit
The broadcast thing would help. Barry Gibb has got plenty of column inches post Glastonbury and two Bee Gee hits CDs are riding high at #7 and #24 in the Amazon charts. (Royal Blood #1, Radiohead #2, Foo Fighters #3 and yes, Ed Sheeran #4 and #6). Of the top ten only Prince didn't appear at Glastonbury.
What The Rats need to do is get a Saturday/Sunday afternoon slot at Glastonbury, have Geldof spout a load of nonsense about Brexit and what festival goers wear, to get on the front page of all the tabloids and they will be touring constantly...
... alternatively they never get asked to play anywhere again after Geldof outgunning Adele on the profanity count, but what a way to go!
I suspect that any album released will not have much associated promotion. It wouldn't be cost effective. Matching Alone (#40 UK) by The Pretenders or Giants (#48 UK) by The Stranglers is probably as good as it could get. That said, I don't want a new album. Mainly because of the evidence of the RatSh!t EP. There have already been four failed attempts to put a good track on a record, so no need for another dozen. Which apparently have been recorded outside Dublin.
Lets hope it isn't one of those mythical albums that gets scrapped and no one ever gets to hear it.
I can honestly say that the Ratlife ep was the only real 'failure' in my estimation of their career. ... I'd rather wait and get ten good songs than see anything like Ratlife emerge.
Having said that The Boomtown Rats self titled song is kinda ok, and actually seems like an old track it's been played life so often at the live gigs.
I hope it does get scrapped as I suspect it will be Ratsh!t The LP. 4 poor songs is bad , but 12 is worse!
Kinda OK? FFS! It's the worst thing I have heard this century apart from Ratified and Ratlife. Best of the three worst Rats songs. Not a patch on Charmed Lives or Another Piece of Red.
I really hope the new album is both released and good. I've seen the Rats at festivals win over any crowd however uninitiated and sceptical. Good broadcast publicity could prompt a re-appraisal. I know the EP wasn't quite what some of us had in mind. But there are good moments, and Geldof's last solo album was a great piece of work drawing critical acclaim if not massive sales. It could kick start more interest, but it needs to be handled very well. Other veteran acts have released new records to great acclaim. It is possible, but it needs LOADS of promotion to get off the ground. The Status Quo: The Frantic Four original lineup reunion tours were very well received and the Rolling Stones 'Blue and Lonesome' albeit covers but captured the public's imagination. I'm not saying the Rats have the same reach- but if they did release a 2017 sounding record that was rawer like the first album but addressing contemporary concerns that they could do on stage. Maybe there might be a re-evaluation of the Rats history with acts like this a knowledge of their own history is often what sells and is endearing. They could try recording it in Dublin- get in touch with themselves abit
It's supposed to be recorded already.Lets hope it isn't one of those mythical albums that gets scrapped and no one ever gets to hear it. We hava a few studio photos of the four oriningal members working in the studio but that's about it.
I can honestly say that the Ratlife ep was the only real 'failure' in my estimation of their career. In theory at least they should be able to get it together and come up with something a bit better, something that has a bit or the raw drive of the first album and the pop sensibilities of Tonic and Surfacing. I'd rather wait and get ten good songs than see anything like Ratlife emerge. Having said that The Boomtown Rats self titled song is kinda ok, and actually seems like an old track it's been played life so often at the live gigs.
For me, Back to Boomtown was good and the other three tracks are below par. I still think an autumn tour and album can and will happen.
Don't forget, Classic Rats Hits was announced June 2013 together with an autumn tour. CRH was released 9th Sept 2013.
If they're going for an October or even November release date for Mega then we wouldn't be hearing about it until July or August?
If they're going for an October or even November release date for Mega then we wouldn't be hearing about it until July or August?
I bet it ain't called MEGA and I bet it ain't released this year.
Classic Rat****s was announced in the wake of the Isle of Wight gig ahead of the big Cork date. Can't imagine they are going to wait until they play the cricket ground to do similar.
Wouldn't surprise me if there was another RatSh!ts (Mega Ratsh!ts ?) come November in time for the Christmas market with two bonus tracks.
I must say I'd be thrilled to hear a new Rats album- that's the whole point of being a band. People have criticised the setlist from being the same- isn't it more likely to inject new life and interest into it by having new material to play not just some different tracks which are 35 or 40 years old. I really struggle to understand especially a fan why anybody wouldn't want to hear a new album. That's what musicians do.
I really struggle to understand especially a fan why anybody wouldn't want to hear a new album.
If I thought it would be good then I would want to hear it, but post-1985 I could count the number of great tracks from any of the Rats in their various guises on my fingers with thumbs to spare. No doubt I will hear it, but having endured/suffered Ratsh!t EP my expectations are pretty low. If the new album is as lame then better they don't release it.
I think at least 3 of Geldof's solo albums (The Happy Club, The Vegetarians of Love and How to Compose) have contained superb tracks. And there is no reason why he won't write tremendous songs- it seems a little churlish to write him off. His last solo album was only in 2011 and I thought contained some of his best new songs in many years. There is no reason to assume his mojo won't return for a full Rats album like it did in 2011. Have a little faith- nay sayers are no fun haha
I think at least 3 of Geldof's solo albums (The Happy Club, The Vegetarians of Love and How to Compose) have contained superb tracks. And there is no reason why he won't write tremendous songs- it seems a little churlish to write him off. His last solo album was only in 2011 and I thought contained some of his best new songs in many years. There is no reason to assume his mojo won't return for a full Rats album like it did in 2011. Have a little faith- nay sayers are no fun haha
Geldof has claimed on many occasions that people are not interested in new Rats songs. Well if he could write songs like he did in the 70's then it would be a different matter. Maybe he just doesn't have this ability any more, and can make excuses and say that fans are only there to hear the classic hits and a few old album tracks. Funnily Dylan is always churning out albums and he has a back catalogue to die for. You don't see him making excuses,and I think most Dylan fans appreciate BD's almost driven need to write new music. Our Bob on the other hand is almost the opposite, but then DB has a much larger fan base.
There were certainly signs on How To Compose of a renaissance in Geldofs song writing ability. Sex Age and Death again mostly confirms this belief. It would seem intuitive than Geldof should be able to put together a least 6 or 7 good Rats songs out of maybe 10-11 tracks.
Thats an amazing mix of negative comments from ArrGee though i do understand them, to be fair in light of the previous recentish releases there also seems to be a lot of hope and optimism which is good, i can only say that with the comments earlier this year re the recording of the new album the boys may be taking some time to ensure that the final offering proves worthy. Also take on the comments by Noel, your right it is only June, lets hope that there are some announcements soon re September/October
You should be praying for a new album -then we'll have all our old friends on the forum climbing out of the woodwork to review it. That should be fun.
I suspect many have long gone away to tw@tface and won't be returning. Ironically, I come here because tw@tface is blocked where I work. It is a trend with forums. Many have seen a big decline in posts in the last few years. I don't think a new album will see a big increase in posters, and if it does attract any I will pi$$ them off soon enough that they go running off to tw@tface anyway
I'm still living in hope of anew album still playing the old stuff till the cows come home ihavnt posted for abit as a lot of my computers \tablets all died at same time and am having to use kindle for internet ask say still following rats till I'm pushing up daisies
What I think will happen the next 6-8 months.
Summer concerts abroad will happen.
New ALBUM in October/November.
Small tour to promote album.
2 concerts in Germany in January will NOT happen.
I live in hope for a new(good album) but lets wait and see.
What I think will happen the next 6-8 months. Summer concerts abroad will happen. New ALBUM in October/November. Small tour to promote album. 2 concerts in Germany in January will NOT happen.
I live in hope for a new(good album) but lets wait and see.
Oi! That's my job!
I don't believe a NEW album will be released this year. Here's why.
After the Rats dates which will happen as you said unless the festival cancels Geldof is busy touring until October. He will most likely not do any music related for the rest of the year, though there is the possibility of an end of year gig like 2015.
If they think the new album is good then they will wait until January because there is bugg3r all chance of anyone anywhere wanting to play it in November/December. If they think the new album stinks, but there are two or three OK tracks then they will release another hits CD with the bonus tracks bolted on. And if there are no decent tracks at all, it will never see the light of day and Geldof will go off and do a solo album (eventually).
Suspect if there are dates in the new year to promote the album they will be "event" dates. What I mean by that is that rather than playing the hits at bigger venues like Forum or Roundhouse in London, they will play a smaller venue and play the new songs ahead of the old stuff. As only fans would be interested in this sort of thing, they could play somewhere like 100 Club. They could do likewise in Dublin and maybe elsewhere. They may even do gigs out in the sticks like Hurtwood in 2013 or West Runton from way back to gague reaction prior to release.
I don't expect those German dates as advertised to take place because the venues are too big, but they may change venue and use those dates to see how the songs go down.
Ok,how about Boomtown Brexit and Ratlife Republic?.
That's more like it
Maybe we're being too precious about the Rat references etc in song titles. We never complained much about Rat Trap or Do the Rat and the whole eponymous first album wouldn't have seen the light of day if band name references were banned. I also rather like Back to Boomtown and Ratrospective went down well down under.
Maybe there is after all good RATionale for this kind of approach
We never complained much about Rat Trap or Do the Rat and the whole eponymous first album wouldn't have seen the light of day if band name references were banned. I also rather like Back to Boomtown and Ratrospective went down well down under.
A world of difference between the odd song here or there back in the day compared with all four on the EP with dubious lyrics like "Take me back to Boomtown and I'll be Ratified" and "St. Boomtown The patron saint of cr@p" and "Boomtown's lying bleeding". There's plenty more in the same vein, but that's enough.
We never complained much about Rat Trap or Do the Rat and the whole eponymous first album wouldn't have seen the light of day if band name references were banned. I also rather like Back to Boomtown and Ratrospective went down well down under.
A world of difference between the odd song here or there back in the day compared with all four on the EP with dubious lyrics like "Take me back to Boomtown and I'll be Ratified" and "St. Boomtown The patron saint of cr@p" and "Boomtown's lying bleeding". There's plenty more in the same vein, but that's enough.
If they're going for an October or even November release date for Mega then we wouldn't be hearing about it until July or August?
I bet it ain't called MEGA and I bet it ain't released this year.
Classic Rat****s was announced in the wake of the Isle of Wight gig ahead of the big Cork date. Can't imagine they are going to wait until they play the cricket ground to do similar.
Wouldn't surprise me if there was another RatSh!ts (Mega Ratsh!ts ?) come November in time for the Christmas market with two bonus tracks.
Likely track names:
No Primark in Boomtown
Ratexit
Mega it is and wrong you are. Tragedy is I should have asked you how much you wanted to bet!
If they're going for an October or even November release date for Mega then we wouldn't be hearing about it until July or August?
I bet it ain't called MEGA and I bet it ain't released this year.
Mega it is and wrong you are. Tragedy is I should have asked you how much you wanted to bet!
We shall see. But if there are going to be a few EPs then the album won't be out this year.
more interestingly...
The Boomtown Rats new music does not deal with heavyweight social issues and is instead a hark back to their pop punk new wave sound showcased on tracks such as I Dont Like Mondays, Rat Trap and Lookin After Number One
which is pretty encouraging.
26 tracks seems a lot. That's nearly three LPs (definitely two plus a handful of b-sides). A whole new set?
Like the buses, nothing for ages and then several come along at once!
I think it may be a tall order too, but several articles say this:
"They have spent three months recording their first LP since 1984s In The Long Grass, and are set to release a new album later this year, with 26 tracks recorded"
Hanau concert (5th August) Germany has been moved to Jan 2018.Looks like a German tour in Jan 2018.I thought this concert was selling ok/well so I am stunned that it has been moved.I thought about going to this but after the Hamburg concert got moved I am glad I decided against going to this.
If they're going for an October or even November release date for Mega then we wouldn't be hearing about it until July or August?
I bet it ain't called MEGA and I bet it ain't released this year.
Mega it is and wrong you are. Tragedy is I should have asked you how much you wanted to bet!
We shall see. But if there are going to be a few EPs then the album won't be out this year.
more interestingly...
The Boomtown Rats new music does not deal with heavyweight social issues and is instead a hark back to their pop punk new wave sound showcased on tracks such as I Dont Like Mondays, Rat Trap and Lookin After Number One
which is pretty encouraging.
26 tracks seems a lot. That's nearly three LPs (definitely two plus a handful of b-sides). A whole new set?
For crying out loud Mystic ArrGee, once again you are proven right....
I can't see another UK tour as there was barely enough interest two years ago. There may be a similar approach to the Irish gigs in having one off event gigs in say London and a couple of other big centres.
I'm not always right.
Though looking at the availability at the London Palladium, it arguably looks like a bad choice of venue given the numbers of seats available. Or the tickets are too expensive.
And it could be worse than it looks at first sight as the Palladium website tends to have rows that it does not sell (LNPRX - Stalls; F - Royal Circle; EIKLM - Grand Circle). I guess there is gonna have to be a few chat show appearances in March and April to shift tickets.
Brighton Dome looks like it has sold around 800 tickets of a capacity of around 1600-1800. I expect there will still be tickets available by the time the cheap train fares appear.
