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Konzert Bob Geldof
Basel, St. Jakob Arena

VERSCHOBEN!

Es tut uns leid, Ihnen mitteilen zu müssen, dass das für den 08. Juli 2007 geplante Konzert mit Bob Geldof aus terminlichen Gründen verschoben wird.

Den neuen Termin geben wir schnellstmöglich bekannt.

Alle Tickets behalten Ihre Gültigkeit

-- Edited by ArrGee1991 at 15:44, 2007-06-26

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Postponed - I've heard that one before.

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Postponed? Sure like the new album.
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I thought about buying tickets for the Polish concert, but ah forget it. yawn

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ive booked flights hotels and its cost a lot of bucks 12days to go what the fooks going on and why does nt somebody keep this information up to date 12 days thats not fair two pissed off fans!! ban me i dont give a ****!!

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Can you cancel at this stage and get some money back? It's a real nightmare and I can thoroughly sympathise with you. You won't get banned for your post for sure.

Our German friends might give a better translation, but this was from an online source:

It does wrong to us to have to communicate to you that for the 08. July 2007 planned concert with Bob Geldof for according to schedule reasons is shifted. We are for the moment at negotiations, in order to find a new date on at the end of 2007.
We communicate the new date as fast as possible.
All tickets keep your validity.


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Reevo, I think you should put these exact points to Ian and Tina and see what reply you get. I am also going to message you with Willo's email. I dont expect he will be very sympathetic.

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Reevo, I think you should put these exact points to Ian and Tina and see what reply you get. I am also going to message you with Willo's email. I dont expect he will be very sympathetic.

Probably call you a knobhead if my experience is anything to go by.



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  ive  booked flights hotels and its cost a lot of bucks 12days to go what the fooks going on and why does nt somebody keep this information up to date 12 days thats not fair two pissed off fans!! ban me i dont give a ****!!
 
Why would you be banned?  You have most, if not everyone's sympathies.  Back in 2005, this was a hot topic and led to the split with nogeldof.info.

Ian wrote:  http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=48603&p=3&topicID=4836044 
  All of the views on this current thread have been taken note of.  ....  A statement will be made in the near future, when all of the current issues have been dealt with from this end, I mean management when I say this end.

I can assure you all that the current situation and the problems that this has caused will not continue into 2006.  
 
 


Not only were concerts cancelled in 2006, but now in 2007 it continues.  No statement was ever made.  No explanations ever given.


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Nothing mentioned on bobgeldof.noinfo,but that is not new.My heart goes out to the people who booked tickets,hotels etc and end up with nothing.I´ve been there and knows how it feels and it is one of the reasons Eddy in Italy called it a day.Does Bobs management really know what they are doing?.confused



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Why do they continue to book large arenas like this when they know there is no hope of filling them.

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Derek The Dane wrote:
Does Bobs management really know what they are doing?.confused
Yes.  They do. 

The way it works is a promoter/venue/festival liase with the management and decide to stage a concert.  The contract is drawn so that the artist is GUARANTEED his fee (with some get out clauses like illness, flood etc. all the stuff they print on the t&c on your ticket that you never read).  However it is down to the promoter/venue/festival to raise the cash.  For a festival they just dip into the pot, whereas for an indivdual concert the promoter has to sell the tickets (they also make on the bar).  If the promoter sells enough tickets he starts to make a profit, however if the sales aren't high enough he makes a loss.

Most promoters when faced with this situation will cancel the concert and possibly pay the artist some compensation.

For the artist, it's a no-lose situation.  The promoter won't lose either as they will be insured against it.  And in the main, the punters don't lose either as they get their money back.  The only losers are those who have paid for non-refundable flights/accomodation etc.

Now you may ask why the management allow such a large venue to be booked when they suspect the demand for tickets isn't likely to be high; but

who knows, some artists have large followings in the strangest of places.



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Jules wrote:

Our German friends might give a better translation, but this was from an online source:

It does wrong to us to have to communicate to you that for the 08. July 2007 planned concert with Bob Geldof for according to schedule reasons is shifted. We are for the moment at negotiations, in order to find a new date on at the end of 2007.
We communicate the new date as fast as possible.
All tickets keep your validity.

Jules, it's pretty much it.

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VERSCHOBEN! POSTPONED!

Es tut uns leid, Ihnen mitteilen zu müssen, dass das für den 08. Juli 2007 geplante Konzert mit Bob Geldof aus terminlichen Gründen verschoben wird.
We're sorry to inform you that the concert scheduled for July 8 2007 by Bob Geldof has to be postponed for schedule reasons.

Wir sind im Moment an Verhandlungen, um einen neuen Termin auf Ende 2007 zu finden.
We're currently negociating to find a new date in late 2007.

Den neuen Termin geben wir schnellstmöglich bekannt.
The new date will be disclosed as soon as possible.

Alle Tickets behalten Ihre Gültigkeit
All tickets remain valid.

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I wonder if it's a good sign that they don't offer to refund tickets..?^^
I wanted to go too... weirdface



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Shepherd's Bush revisited?weirdface

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http://www.bobgeldof.info/Appearances/tour.html

8th July 2007
St. Jacob Arena
Basel, Switzerland
Promoter cancelled
This cancellation has nothing to do with the band, and they are very disappointed

Must admit that's an explanation.  Maybe the seige mentality is lifting and nice to see a reason for the cancellation.



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Konzert Bob Geldof
Basel, St. Jakob Arena

ABGESAGT!

Es tut uns leid, Ihnen mitteilen zu müssen, dass das für den 08. Juli 2007 geplante Konzert mit Bob Geldof abgesagt ist!

Leider konnten wir aus terminlichen Gründen kein Ersatztermin finden!
Wir bedauern die Absage sehr!

Ticketrückgabe:
Fans können ihre Tickets zurückgeben und erhalten ihr Geld zurück.

Bereits erworbene Eintrittskarten sind bis spätestens 08. August 2007 dort zurückzugeben oder zurückzusenden, wo sie erworben wurden.



CANCELLED! 

We are sorry to report the Bob Geldof concert scheduled for 8th July 2006 is cancelled!

Unfortunately, no alternative dates for a rescheduled concert could be found! We regret this cancellation!

Ticket return:
Fans can return their tickets and obtain a refund.

Tickets are to be returned or sent back by 08 August 2007, from where they were purchased.

-- Edited by ArrGee at 09:46, 2007-07-02

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Sounds very familiar - the wimbelton gig, Jules? Remember? I just kept the tickets for kicks. The tickets were not very expensive.

I never did hear back regarding the 2007 festival in Port Angeles, WA. I did a lot of research, too. Provided information regarding where the band could stay, the limo driver company to use, and who to contact regarding the festival. No one ever emailed me back regarding the gig.

I also thought Dubai was scheduled for this past early summer - was that in May 2007. Did that also get cancelled?

Will we ever see Bob in concert again?

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Sadly I do remember the Wimbledon gig only too well - and still have the tickets.

Quite a lot of us were going to go and we were going to meet up.  My sister lives near by and was suggesting pubs for us to meet up in!  It was all planned.cry

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It is a disgrace that this organisation never even got back to you Oshora. I wonder if Bob knows that they just dismiss ideas for gigs without even discussing them. It is really bad manners and puts the artist in a bad light. I think , (might be wrong) he is represented by different people now. I wonder how my Latvian friend will get on. He is so desperate to put on a concert. I forgot to  mention though that his first language is Latvian, his second Russian and English is only his third. His messages are quite funny. He is a true Rats fan though and has been DJing since he was 16 and used to play the Rats in the clubs. Could be very interesting negotiations there. At the time of writing, the Florence gig is still on Sunday. I have my scouts on myspace looking for reviews, pics, interviews for me. (around 1600 now) Hope it goes well.

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It is frustrating that I didn't get any reply at all, expecially since I offered my home, which is vacant, for Bob and his band to stay in - this is in Port Angles, WA.  The manager could of at least let me know if the gig was not planned.

It would be nice to go to a festival in the UK where Bob is sure to play.  It appears he likes to do them.  Maybe he will return to the Winnipeg, Canada festival?

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He DID play Florence, Here is the proof. Not great quality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0rqGvhP93I

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hmm do you think that bob ever hears about what his fans are saying, all these queries? did he ever know about what happened with the forum and the offical site? has he ever heard about any of this kind of stuff? or does the management, manage everything? i mean does he? do any of you guys know? sorry i've just realised that i've written a completley random post Dx but i was just wondering that maybe if he knew all this stuff then maybe he might want to provide an explanation himself =/  confused

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ArrGee1991 wrote:

For the artist, it's a no-lose situation.  The promoter won't lose either as they will be insured against it.  And in the main, the punters don't lose either as they get their money back.  The only losers are those who have paid for non-refundable flights/accomodation etc.
Not exactly no-lose if you care about your reputation and your career, which I don't think Bob does, to tell you frankly. I know I'll never got to any expense or trouble to get to one of his shows ever again.



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MJ wrote:
Not exactly no-lose if you care about your reputation and your career, which I don't think Bob does, to tell you frankly. I know I'll never got to any expense or trouble to get to one of his shows ever again.
I agree.  If it was just his reputation or career (both have effectively gone, so doesn't care about them) then fine. What is worse is he doesn't care about people who buy tickets for the gigs.

Most bands/acts tour with a view to building a fan base; Geldof's approach has reduced his.


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hmm do you think that bob ever hears about what his fans are saying, all these queries? did he ever know about what happened with the forum and the offical site? has he ever heard about any of this kind of stuff? or does the management, manage everything? i mean does he? do any of you guys know? sorry i've just realised that i've written a completley random post Dx but i was just wondering that maybe if he knew all this stuff then maybe he might want to provide an explanation himself =/  confused


He did know.  He's above replying, as are the Geldof management.



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Did they ever give a new date for this concert?.I do not remember seeing one.

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Derek The Dane wrote:

Did they ever give a new date for this concert?.I do not remember seeing one.





ABGESAGT!! (it was cancelled, see earlier in thread)

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