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Dave

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 "to really help the planet, we have to go nuclear, fast" - Geldof

Kill or cure, I guess.  I'm not sure it will help the planet nor I guess do the former residents of Chernobyl.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster
Maybe nuclear power is unavoidable, but I think the alternatives, even if they are Mickey Mouse, need to examined.  Given that the UK has simply just stockpiled its highly radioactive nuclear waste at Sellafield (or simply let it leak into the Irish sea!) expanding the nuclear program would be pretty reckless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_the_United_Kingdom

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/dec/12/advertising.digitalmedia?gusrc=rss&feed=media

http://www.thehybriddebate.com/blog/environment/2007/12/11/why-hybrid-must-be-stepping-stone-something-better/

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Bob is talking utter crap on this one.

Someone buy him a copy of Cornelia Hesse-Honegger's "Heteroptera", which has detailed drawings of all the horrible insect mutations that are around the Sellafield (formerly known as Windscale) nuclear plant in Cumbria (that's the Lake District of England to our non British readers). She found the places with the highest incidence of deformities were in the areas close to Sellafield and in the main wind directions (Drigg, Calder Bridge,  Ponsonby and of course Seascale).

Then let's hear him say that nuke energy's the way to go. Yeah, if you want babies like Zaphoid Beeblebrox!

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Well I suppose he wont be doing a cover of 'Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Russian Roulette' any time in the near future.

Pretty disappointed in what he said, especially as he endorses a panacea which has a half life of 250,000 years - and rubbishes the alternatives.

He contradicts himself, as he is once quoted as saying 'Mankind at its most desperate is often at its best.'

Me, I think he should update the lyrics to 'Another piece of red', using the words 'joined my atlas' instead of 'left'. Obviously, the 'red' would be a new nuclear power station.

nick


-- Edited by TheTopHat at 23:44, 2008-01-12

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I'm with both of you on this one and definitely not with Bob.

Nuclear is not the way.  Whilst accidents are rare they are very costly in terms of lives and I'd have thought Bob might be concerned by that.  It isn't the greenest form of power either!!!  I thought he was advocating 'greenness'?? 

I don't expect to and don't agree with everything Bob says, but you are right this one is particularly disappointing.confused 

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I second what Jules has said. I find it unbelievable that Bob would promote nuclear energy. I cringe when I think of what happened in Chernobyl & what could happen at Sellafield. In my opinion the risks far outweigh any positives & it should be banned fullstop blankstare

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Indeed Musicmania.  The fallout is costly too in terms of livelyhoods and how widelyspread it is.  I visited Turkey in 1989, they lost their teacrop amongst other things due to Chernobyl.  No-one drank ordinary tea there.  However, they were resourceful and used their local speciality, Apple tea.

I used to work at a local college.  We had a local link with children who suffered from the fallout too. They paid for children to come over from Russia (Bellarusse) and the children were starving, poverty stricken.  OK there were over factors involved but Chernobyl played its part.  And again a disaster strikes an already poor area.

Bob must be aware of all of this.

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I suppose its the countdown to the 2018 restrictions, that Bob really refers to.
Whatever the current/projected power consumption is -I doubt its a falling graph.
The current power production process will be severely restricted, thus the need for alternative ideas.
It looks like Britains answer is more nuclear plants. I would also say that it is the option that most other nuclear nations will take as well. So the British aren't alone, except in being honest about their intention. (Forgive me if your country has done the same -wherever you are.)

I think general awareness will only kick in when bills start coming in our doors in 2018.
Will that then be too late? - decisions will have been made.
I'm still p*ssed with Geldof - for jumping on the bandwagon he jumped on.
He could have taken a different approach, a more typical 'geldofian' view and exposed the establishment as to their intentions on this whole shortfall in a more impactful way, which is now, yes right now, being decided for us.

I wonder has he gone to the darker side.......
I hope not, but its not lookin' good.

By the way, I live in green Ireland, no nukes, we're gone. But thats another story.....
Our government have been debating about lightbulbs (CFL's) for the last few weeks. How many ministers does it take to change a lightbulb?

nick

-- Edited by TheTopHat at 22:49, 2008-01-13

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