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Boomtown Rats - I Don't Like Mondays
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The poll is open for one week, coincides nicely with the UK general election

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It's been way past one week now....are you bending the rules hoping for a particular outcome?  Too depressed about the UK election to crawl out from under your blanket?  Too busy to deal with this nonsense?

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"It's been way past one week now....are you bending the rules hoping for a particular outcome?  Too depressed about the UK election to crawl out from under your blanket?  Too busy to deal with this nonsense? "




 The poll did close last Thursday.  It's one of those automated features (Those who cast their vote can't see it)


The Thin White Duke claims the prize, though Mondays making the final was a surprise (even on a Geldof website!).


Yes, depressed about the election result (more tax to pay), and far too busy in recent days and nights.



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Bowie - even better than the Rats.

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I wouldn't go THAT far, but as I said 10 years ago an outstanding artist.

He was an icon and so important to music.

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ArrGee wrote:

Bowie - even better than the Rats.


 Rats better than Tin Machine.smile

What about Bowie vs Jarvis?. Like having two Fuhrers in the bunker(as Andy Partridge said about working with Todd Rundgren, when producing Skylarking album)smile



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Jules wrote:

I wouldn't go THAT far, but as I said 10 years ago an outstanding artist.


Well, he was in this poll, along with others!  

As much as I love the Rats, for me Bowie was better overall.   IMHO his ten great albums (I tend to ignore Pin Ups) from 1971-1980 aren't matched by any artist.   Six of them made a recent top 200 of all time.  He had seven in total thanks to Man Who Sold The World making it rather than the superior Aladdin Sane and Scary Monsters.  The Beatles had a mere six. Hard Day's Night?  Really?

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/uncut-magazine-200-greatest-albums-of-all-time.489538/

The NME  nearly got it right, though I would still say Lodger is far better than Let's Dance.  Will probably get eleven with Blackstar the next time someone does a top 500 of all time...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NME%27s_The_500_Greatest_Albums_of_All_Time

  • 03. Hunky Dory
  • 14. Low
  • 23. The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars
  • 53. Station To Station
  • 175. Young Americans
  • 230. Aladdin Sane
  • 296. Lets Dance
  • 329. Heroes
  • 381. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
  • 447. Diamond Dogs

Artists with the most albums

  • 10 David Bowie
  • 7 The Beatles 
  • 7 Bob Dylan
  • 5 Bruce Springsteen
  • 5 Elvis Costello
  • 5 PJ Harvey   (Yes, that is surprising!)
  • 5 Radiohead
  • 5 The Smiths


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noelindublin wrote:
ArrGee wrote:

Bowie - even better than the Rats.


 Rats better than Tin Machine.smile

What about Bowie vs Jarvis?. Like having two Fuhrers in the bunker(as Andy Partridge said about working with Todd Rundgren, when producing Skylarking album)smile


I'd have V Deep ahead of Tin Machine!

Bowie Vs. Pulp?  Mmmm, that is tricky.  If pushed, Pulp are my favorite band and their six great albums and smattering of singles pre-Separations plus the fact I have seen them umpteen times live mean they outrank Bowie for me.  But both are in my top tranche, along with The Rats, of course!

 



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ArrGee wrote:
Jules wrote:

I wouldn't go THAT far, but as I said 10 years ago an outstanding artist.


Well, he was in this poll, along with others!  

As much as I love the Rats, for me Bowie was better overall.   IMHO his ten great albums (I tend to ignore Pin Ups) from 1971-1980 aren't matched by any artist.   Six of them made a recent top 200 of all time.  He had seven in total thanks to Man Who Sold The World making it rather than the superior Aladdin Sane and Scary Monsters.  The Beatles had a mere six. Hard Day's Night?  Really?

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/uncut-magazine-200-greatest-albums-of-all-time.489538/

The NME  nearly got it right, though I would still say Lodger is far better than Let's Dance.  Will probably get eleven with Blackstar the next time someone does a top 500 of all time...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NME%27s_The_500_Greatest_Albums_of_All_Time

  • 03. Hunky Dory
  • 14. Low
  • 23. The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars
  • 53. Station To Station
  • 175. Young Americans
  • 230. Aladdin Sane
  • 296. Lets Dance
  • 329. Heroes
  • 381. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
  • 447. Diamond Dogs

Artists with the most albums

  • 10 David Bowie
  • 7 The Beatles 
  • 7 Bob Dylan
  • 5 Bruce Springsteen
  • 5 Elvis Costello
  • 5 PJ Harvey   (Yes, that is surprising!)
  • 5 Radiohead
  • 5 The Smiths

 Yes but music is all about falling in love with one particular band and for me that was the Rats, for you Pulp. You really 'live 'that experience in so many ways.

I have no problem admitting Bowie was a genius but it's a slightly detached love affair. Seems like he was a true gent too, likeable and self effacing so not the usual arrogant rock type.



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Jules wrote:

I wouldn't go THAT far, but as I said 10 years ago an outstanding artist.

He was an icon and so important to music.


 Agree with Jules on this one. I myself have a lot of his album's. But I only got into him when Ashes to ashes came out and the album this song came of. I was in the Isle of man on hols 1980 and got this out of Woolworths 99p But to be fair He was great Was not really into the Let's dance thing But did love china girl



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ArrGee wrote:

Bowie - even better than the Rats.


 In terms of constantly evolving and influencing so many people, I have to agree!  Brilliant man - and brilliant to hear his music all day long on the radio, though so sad that his death is the reason for it.



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 Yes but music is all about falling in love with one particular band and for me that was the Rats, for you Pulp. You really 'live 'that experience in so many ways.

I have no problem admitting Bowie was a genius but it's a slightly detached love affair. Seems like he was a true gent too, likeable and self effacing so not the usual arrogant rock type.


To be honest, I am a bit of a tart as far as bands/acts are concerned!  After The Rats came The Teardrop Explodes then Happy Mondays then Pulp and then Franz Ferdinand.   I also like a lot of their peers.  Before the Rats I liked Sweet more than Bowie at the time, though they obviously cloned his whole act.  Blockbuster and Jean Genie aren't very different.

Bowie,  Bolan and Slade were all part of my growing up soundtrack and as time went on and I got more ca$h I started to explore their back catalogs more and found Bowie's to be the best.  Scary Monsters was the first album I got when it was actually released. My car stereo tended to alternate between Bowie and Dr. Feelgood depending on my mood and the fact that I had their albums on tape.  

I like a whole multitude of bands (and periods) rather than just one.    Effectively Britpop 1964 - present, with honorable nods to New York (Velvets, Ramones, Blondie, Strokes) and Detroit (Motown, Iggy Pop, White Stripes).  The Cars, Nirvana, The Black Keys and The Killers also stateside and the odd Irish band, in particular one from Dublin



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ArrGee wrote:
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 Yes but music is all about falling in love with one particular band and for me that was the Rats, for you Pulp. You really 'live 'that experience in so many ways.

I have no problem admitting Bowie was a genius but it's a slightly detached love affair. Seems like he was a true gent too, likeable and self effacing so not the usual arrogant rock type.


To be honest, I am a bit of a tart as far as bands/acts are concerned!  After The Rats came The Teardrop Explodes then Happy Mondays then Pulp and then Franz Ferdinand.   I also like a lot of their peers.  Before the Rats I liked Sweet more than Bowie at the time, though they obviously cloned his whole act.  Blockbuster and Jean Genie aren't very different.

Bowie,  Bolan and Slade were all part of my growing up soundtrack and as time went on and I got more ca$h I started to explore their back catalogs more and found Bowie's to be the best.  Scary Monsters was the first album I got when it was actually released. My car stereo tended to alternate between Bowie and Dr. Feelgood depending on my mood and the fact that I had their albums on tape.  

I like a whole multitude of bands (and periods) rather than just one.    Effectively Britpop 1964 - present, with honorable nods to New York (Velvets, Ramones, Blondie, Strokes) and Detroit (Motown, Iggy Pop, White Stripes).  The Cars, Nirvana, The Black Keys and The Killers also stateside and the odd Irish band, in particular one from Dublin


 Rats are my all time favorites and then there is a hardcore of band's im really into and have stayed with for years ie Echo and the Bunnymen, XTC, The Saints, Band of Holy Joy, Momus, Clinic, Captain Beefheart, Scott Walker,Magazine, Geneva, Marc Almond.

I tend to get through a lot of music and am always on the lookout for interesting acts though in the last number of years I have stopped trying to keep up with whats current and 'happening'. 



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Bowie probably was a better artist, but in my personal opinion I will always have the Rats as no 1. Bowie has meant a lot to me over the years and been in my life since I was round 6 or 7. I don't need to tell you about how much the Rats have meant to me and all that they've done for me. Their words spoke volumes to me at the right time.

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Jules wrote:

Bowie probably was a better artist, but in my personal opinion I will always have the Rats as no 1. Bowie has meant a lot to me over the years and been in my life since I was round 6 or 7. I don't need to tell you about how much the Rats have meant to me and all that they've done for me. Their words spoke volumes to me at the right time.


 it's really heart vs head. Same for me. Rats favs, Bowie there most of my life and have just downloaded Lazarus. You should here that song Jules.

https://www.google.ie/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=bowie%20lazarus



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Thanks, I watched that. Very powerful. I wonder if there was timing involved with the release? It's as though he knew, as suggested elsewhere. He was very private and didn't announce to the world he was ill and how Ill he was. This album was released on his birthday, a day before he died. He's singing about being free... From a bed, with bandages. Intriguing. Did he let go after the album was released 'now is the time for me to go'.

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Jules wrote:

Thanks, I watched that. Very powerful. I wonder if there was timing involved with the release? It's as though he knew, as suggested elsewhere. He was very private and didn't announce to the world he was ill and how Ill he was. This album was released on his birthday, a day before he died. He's singing about being free... From a bed, with bandages. Intriguing. Did he let go after the album was released 'now is the time for me to go'.


 I suspect there will be lots of articles about  Bowie's final 18 months, as well as some new books written about him. 

I'll check out the rest of the album and report back.



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I'll check out the rest of the album and report back.

It is superb.  Best since Scary Monsters for sure, stands alongside his 1970s albums.    Was listening to it over the weekend before the news came through.   Have to admit, it is one hell of a way to bow out.  I know a few artists have made albums when confronted with the grim reaper, but this one is like having him in the band.  



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