Battle of Teenage Kicks - The Final!

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Battle of Teenage Kicks - The Final!

franna · V Deep

It's been way past one week now....are you bending the rules hoping for a particular outcome? Too depressed about the UK election to crawl out from under your blanket? Too busy to deal with this nonsense?

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

The poll is closed (and has been for a few days)

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

RE: Battle of Teenage Kicks - The Final!

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

I wouldn't go THAT far, but as I said 10 years ago an outstanding artist.

He was an icon and so important to music.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
Bowie - even better than the Rats.

Rats better than Tin Machine. smile

What about Bowie vs Jarvis?. Like having two Fuhrers in the bunker(as Andy Partridge said about working with Todd Rundgren, when producing Skylarking album) smile

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Jules wrote:
I wouldn't go THAT far, but as I said 10 years ago an outstanding artist.

Well, he was in this poll, along with others!

As much as I love the Rats, for me Bowie was better overall. IMHO his ten great albums (I tend to ignore Pin Ups) from 1971-1980 aren't matched by any artist. Six of them made a recent top 200 of all time. He had seven in total thanks to Man Who Sold The World making it rather than the superior Aladdin Sane and Scary Monsters. The Beatles had a mere six. Hard Day's Night? Really?

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/uncut-magazine-200-greatest-albums-of-all-time.489538/

The NME nearly got it right, though I would still say Lodger is far better than Let's Dance. Will probably get eleven with Blackstar the next time someone does a top 500 of all time...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NME%27s_The_500_Greatest_Albums_of_All_Time

03. Hunky Dory
14. Low
23. The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars
53. Station To Station
175. Young Americans
230. Aladdin Sane
296. Lets Dance
329. Heroes
381. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
447. Diamond Dogs

Artists with the most albums

10 David Bowie
7 The Beatles
7 Bob Dylan
5 Bruce Springsteen
5 Elvis Costello
5 PJ Harvey (Yes, that is surprising!)
5 Radiohead
5 The Smiths

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
ArrGee wrote:
Bowie - even better than the Rats.
Rats better than Tin Machine.
What about Bowie vs Jarvis?. Like having two Fuhrers in the bunker(as Andy Partridge said about working with Todd Rundgren, when producing Skylarking album)

I'd have V Deep ahead of Tin Machine!

Bowie Vs. Pulp? Mmmm, that is tricky. If pushed, Pulp are my favorite band and their six great albums and smattering of singles pre-Separations plus the fact I have seen them umpteen times live mean they outrank Bowie for me. But both are in my top tranche, along with The Rats, of course!

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
Jules wrote:
I wouldn't go THAT far, but as I said 10 years ago an outstanding artist.
Well, he was in this poll, along with others!
As much as I love the Rats, for me Bowie was better overall. IMHO his ten great albums (I tend to ignore Pin Ups) from 1971-1980 aren't matched by any artist. Six of them made a recent top 200 of all time. He had seven in total thanks to Man Who Sold The World making it rather than the superior Aladdin Sane and Scary Monsters. The Beatles had a mere six. Hard Day's Night? Really?
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/uncut-magazine-200-greatest-albums-of-all-time.489538/
The NME nearly got it right, though I would still say Lodger is far better than Let's Dance. Will probably get eleven with Blackstar the next time someone does a top 500 of all time...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NME%27s_The_500_Greatest_Albums_of_All_Time
03. Hunky Dory
14. Low
23. The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars
53. Station To Station
175. Young Americans
230. Aladdin Sane
296. Lets Dance
329. Heroes
381. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
447. Diamond Dogs
Artists with the most albums
10 David Bowie
7 The Beatles
7 Bob Dylan
5 Bruce Springsteen
5 Elvis Costello
5 PJ Harvey (Yes, that is surprising!)
5 Radiohead
5 The Smiths

Yes but music is all about falling in love with one particular band and for me that was the Rats, for you Pulp. You really 'live 'that experience in so many ways.

I have no problem admitting Bowie was a genius but it's a slightly detached love affair. Seems like he was a true gent too, likeable and self effacing so not the usual arrogant rock type.

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Jules wrote:
I wouldn't go THAT far, but as I said 10 years ago an outstanding artist.

He was an icon and so important to music.

Agree with Jules on this one. I myself have a lot of his album's. But I only got into him when Ashes to ashes came out and the album this song came of. I was in the Isle of man on hols 1980 and got this out of Woolworths 99p But to be fair He was great Was not really into the Let's dance thing But did love china girl

Lisa · Mondo Bongo

ArrGee wrote:
Bowie - even better than the Rats.

In terms of constantly evolving and influencing so many people, I have to agree! Brilliant man - and brilliant to hear his music all day long on the radio, though so sad that his death is the reason for it.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
Yes but music is all about falling in love with one particular band and for me that was the Rats, for you Pulp. You really 'live 'that experience in so many ways.
I have no problem admitting Bowie was a genius but it's a slightly detached love affair. Seems like he was a true gent too, likeable and self effacing so not the usual arrogant rock type.

To be honest, I am a bit of a tart as far as bands/acts are concerned! After The Rats came The Teardrop Explodes then Happy Mondays then Pulp and then Franz Ferdinand. I also like a lot of their peers. Before the Rats I liked Sweet more than Bowie at the time, though they obviously cloned his whole act. Blockbuster and Jean Genie aren't very different.

Bowie, Bolan and Slade were all part of my growing up soundtrack and as time went on and I got more ca$h I started to explore their back catalogs more and found Bowie's to be the best. Scary Monsters was the first album I got when it was actually released. My car stereo tended to alternate between Bowie and Dr. Feelgood depending on my mood and the fact that I had their albums on tape.

I like a whole multitude of bands (and periods) rather than just one. Effectively Britpop 1964 - present, with honorable nods to New York (Velvets, Ramones, Blondie, Strokes) and Detroit (Motown, Iggy Pop, White Stripes). The Cars, Nirvana, The Black Keys and The Killers also stateside and the odd Irish band, in particular one from Dublin

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
Yes but music is all about falling in love with one particular band and for me that was the Rats, for you Pulp. You really 'live 'that experience in so many ways.
I have no problem admitting Bowie was a genius but it's a slightly detached love affair. Seems like he was a true gent too, likeable and self effacing so not the usual arrogant rock type.
To be honest, I am a bit of a tart as far as bands/acts are concerned! After The Rats came The Teardrop Explodes then Happy Mondays then Pulp and then Franz Ferdinand. I also like a lot of their peers. Before the Rats I liked Sweet more than Bowie at the time, though they obviously cloned his whole act. Blockbuster and Jean Genie aren't very different.
Bowie, Bolan and Slade were all part of my growing up soundtrack and as time went on and I got more ca$h I started to explore their back catalogs more and found Bowie's to be the best. Scary Monsters was the first album I got when it was actually released. My car stereo tended to alternate between Bowie and Dr. Feelgood depending on my mood and the fact that I had their albums on tape.
I like a whole multitude of bands (and periods) rather than just one. Effectively Britpop 1964 - present, with honorable nods to New York (Velvets, Ramones, Blondie, Strokes) and Detroit (Motown, Iggy Pop, White Stripes). The Cars, Nirvana, The Black Keys and The Killers also stateside and the odd Irish band, in particular one from Dublin

Rats are my all time favorites and then there is a hardcore of band's im really into and have stayed with for years ie Echo and the Bunnymen, XTC, The Saints, Band of Holy Joy, Momus, Clinic, Captain Beefheart, Scott Walker,Magazine, Geneva, Marc Almond.

I tend to get through a lot of music and am always on the lookout for interesting acts though in the last number of years I have stopped trying to keep up with whats current and 'happening'.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Bowie probably was a better artist, but in my personal opinion I will always have the Rats as no 1. Bowie has meant a lot to me over the years and been in my life since I was round 6 or 7. I don't need to tell you about how much the Rats have meant to me and all that they've done for me. Their words spoke volumes to me at the right time.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Jules wrote:
Bowie probably was a better artist, but in my personal opinion I will always have the Rats as no 1. Bowie has meant a lot to me over the years and been in my life since I was round 6 or 7. I don't need to tell you about how much the Rats have meant to me and all that they've done for me. Their words spoke volumes to me at the right time.

it's really heart vs head. Same for me. Rats favs, Bowie there most of my life and have just downloaded Lazarus. You should here that song Jules.

https://www.google.ie/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=bowie%20lazarus

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Thanks, I watched that. Very powerful. I wonder if there was timing involved with the release? It's as though he knew, as suggested elsewhere. He was very private and didn't announce to the world he was ill and how Ill he was. This album was released on his birthday, a day before he died. He's singing about being free... From a bed, with bandages. Intriguing. Did he let go after the album was released 'now is the time for me to go'.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Jules wrote:
Thanks, I watched that. Very powerful. I wonder if there was timing involved with the release? It's as though he knew, as suggested elsewhere. He was very private and didn't announce to the world he was ill and how Ill he was. This album was released on his birthday, a day before he died. He's singing about being free... From a bed, with bandages. Intriguing. Did he let go after the album was released 'now is the time for me to go'.

I suspect there will be lots of articles about Bowie's final 18 months, as well as some new books written about him.

I'll check out the rest of the album and report back.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
I'll check out the rest of the album and report back.

It is superb. Best since Scary Monsters for sure, stands alongside his 1970s albums. Was listening to it over the weekend before the news came through. Have to admit, it is one hell of a way to bow out. I know a few artists have made albums when confronted with the grim reaper, but this one is like having him in the band.