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Know what I don't. get Why did the long mix of Rat trap, Mondays, Banana republic. Not come out in 12 ins mix. We had House on fire long mix Someone's looking at you single mix Tonight Dave and Drag me down same as the singles I feel I am going of on one here But you all know what I mean



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Know what I don't. get Why did the long mix of Rat trap, Mondays, Banana republic. Not come out in 12 ins mix. We had House on fire long mix Someone's looking at you single mix Tonight Dave and Drag me down same as the singles I feel I am going of on one here But you all know what I mean


 The 12" of Someone's looking is the abridged version.  The album mixes aren't as good as the single mixes, so best they weren't on 12".



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The main era of 12" was about 1982, when remix versions were all the rage. The Rats got this treatment for House on Fire, Charmed Lives and Tonight with extra tracks for the rest post 1982. Banana Republic came a little before, but would have been good for a dub mix.

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ArrGee wrote:

 The 12" of Someone's looking is the abridged version.  The album mixes aren't as good as the single mixes, so best they weren't on 12".


I don't understand (probably my ignorance): how can the 12inch be the abridged version? Surely it would be longer by definition (5inches longer?!)

That said, the 12inch of 'This is the World Calling' was kind of abridged: the song was much longer than the 7inch but was missing the middle 8 entirely.



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jamieuka wrote:
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 The 12" of Someone's looking is the abridged version.  The album mixes aren't as good as the single mixes, so best they weren't on 12".


I don't understand (probably my ignorance): how can the 12inch be the abridged version? Surely it would be longer by definition (5inches longer?!)

That said, the 12inch of 'This is the World Calling' was kind of abridged: the song was much longer than the 7inch but was missing the middle 8 entirely.


The 12" mix of Someone's Looking is the same as the 7" mix but abridged from the album mix which contains the guitar solo.  The 12" mix is the same duration as the 7" despite being 5" longer.  

Technically the needle only travels 2" more (the other half inch is lost in increased label size and additional run off), but the length of the groove can four times as long (though only about double the recording time), so more record is covered. 

The advantage of 12" is there is less groove cramming, so the sound is deeper and more resonant hence it was/is used in discotheques. Apparently Love to Love You Baby was the first 12" single.



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Thanks for learning me bout the 12 inches, mister!

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jamieuka wrote:

Thanks for learning me bout the 12 inches, mister!


That's alright   12" 45rpm is the best recording you can get on vinyl.  Only trouble is it takes a lot of storing.  



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You can get a 12" of Banana Republic,it was released in Germany.


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You can get a 12" of Banana Republic,it was released in Germany.


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Derek The Dane wrote:

You can get a 12" of Banana Republic,it was released in Germany.


 Is it different?



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ArrGee wrote:
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You can get a 12" of Banana Republic,it was released in Germany.


 Is it different?


 Yeah have seen this on EBay. Would like to think it was the long mix. But might be just like Someone's looking at you 12ins same as the single



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To be honest I cannot remember as it has been so long since I played it.I think it is the same version as the album one but please do not quote me on that as I do not have a record player at the moment.

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Here is a list of all the 12" that I have.

Lookin After No 1(2 copies),one from Britain the other from Ireland.
Rat Trap from USA(promo).
Someone´s Looking from Britain.
I Don´t Like Mondays(live) from USA(promo).
Banana Republic from Germany.
Up All Night(2 copies),one from USA(promo)the other from Germany.
House On Fire(2 copies) both from Britain,one is a promo.
Charmed Lives(2 copies) both from Britain,one is a promo.
Skin On Skin/Talking In Code from USA(promo).
Tonight(3 copies),all from Britain,1 remix + 1 remix promo.
Drag Me Down(3 copies)two from Britain,one is a special edition + 1 from USA(promo).
Dave from Britain.
Rain from Canada(promo).
A Hold Of Me from Britain.

As far as I know these are all the 12" out there.If anyone knows of any others please let me know

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Derek The Dane wrote:

I do not have a record player at the moment.

... but load of fcuking records!  

I did disconnect my cassette player recently as it is now finally 100% obselete, but I still have a few blank C90s.  Likewise the VHS video player, though I do intent hang onto it as I still have a few videos worth watching that never made it to DVD or You Tube.



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I have the 4 that came of the ITLG Lp Someone's looking at you. House on fire & Charmed Lives



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I have the 4 that came of the ITLG Lp Someone's looking at you. House on fire & Charmed Lives


 Forgot and Looking after No one 12ins.



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